Pearl Jam Cancels 4/20 Raleigh, NC Concert in Opposition to HB2; Official Band Statement

inmyNC said:

choop said:

jeffwalsh said:

inmyNC said:

I'm uncomfortable with letting anyone use whatever bathroom they so choose.

Then you should have no problems then, as no trans person chose to be trans. The only people choose to use a "different" restroom are the fictional predators used to get people to back these laws.

Until some man sees a therapist, gets on female hormones, takes testosterone blockers, starts electrolysis, gets facial feminization surgery, gets breast implants, changes their name, changes their government identification, has their high school diploma and college degrees reissued under a new name, and rebuilds an entirely new life where are they are more hated, judged, criticized, assaulted, and ostracized than ever before, with higher rates of suicide, depression, and murder than they would have experienced before all of this... all so they can get their kicks and finally pee in a stall next to other women? That's an active fantasy life.

Beautifully put.

By preventing a trans person to not use the bathroom of their identified gender, that doesn't make you comfortable, that makes you someone who discriminates.

I'm uncomfortable with whom will abuse the freedom of using any bathroom they choose. not transgendered people. If there was not the possibility of perverse people using this as method to for fill their perversion the I'd see this whole thing in another light.

Everyone keeps skipping the part about perverse people would do this shit with or without this law. Again, post one example of a transgender friendly restroom leading to an instance of sexual assault or something along those lines. And not the Gender Neutral bathroom issues that have been posted. I'm talking about a mens or womens room that are open to trans people who identify such. You will not be able to link one example if you try, because it has completely been a non-issue.

rssesq said:

if u don't agree with the current views promulgated by the MEDIA, you are either racist, discriminatory and/or a rabid anti-dentite

Nah, if you're only following the media, you're already behind.... that said, I am also opposed to converting to Judaism for the jokes.

As to why they waited so long, perhaps they knew this was on the horizon? From a news story this afternoon:

"North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory says he will respect and bide by the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling on a case involving a transgender student from Virginia, a ruling that could invalidate his state’s new anti-LGBT bill.

Earlier on Tuesday, the 4th Circuit found that requiring students to use bathrooms in accordance with their “biological gender” or gender neutral bathrooms violates Title IX of the Education Act of 1972, which prohibits discrimination based on sex.

That ruling could have dramatic implications for North Carolina and it’s anti-LGBT bill, HB 2, because North Carolina is under the purview of the 4th Circuit. HB 2 bans transgender individuals from using bathrooms in accordance with their gender identity.

Responding to news of the court’s ruling, McCrory said he will meet with attorneys and uphold his oath of office and “abide” by the 4th Circuit’s decision."

farfromglorified said:

bgirl59 said:

Dear Tenclub members, here's a friendly reminder, don't take Pearl Jam for granted, when you do, shit happens

Who exactly was "taking Pearl Jam for granted"? The Tenclub members, the vast majority of whom did not vote for this law or these politicians?

I think the band is taking its fans for granted more so than those fans are taking the band for granted.

If you purchased a nonrefundable airline ticket that you can't use ever, to fly there for a Pearl Jam show and nothing else, you took something for granted.

Eraserhead said:

Feel sorry for those who would have travelled a long, long way to the show. Maybe an alternative would be to do a sit in/occupy the arena until the police/authorities forced the band out. Imagine the press coverage of that!

bgirl59 said:

farfromglorified said:

bgirl59 said:

Dear Tenclub members, here's a friendly reminder, don't take Pearl Jam for granted, when you do, shit happens

Who exactly was "taking Pearl Jam for granted"? The Tenclub members, the vast majority of whom did not vote for this law or these politicians?

I think the band is taking its fans for granted more so than those fans are taking the band for granted.

If you purchased a nonrefundable airline ticket that you can't use ever, to fly there for a Pearl Jam show and nothing else, you took something for granted.

I'm fairly certain that anyone who bought a plane ticket to come to the show that Pearl Jam was selling tickets to a mere 36 hours ago was operating under a very reasonable assumption that the band would play the show. That hardly seems like "taking Pearl Jam for granted". That's more like basic human interaction.

I have read SO many comments since yesterday and I see so many upset over this, rightfully so. QUESTION: How many of you actually feel so slighted with this that you will not renew your 10c membership, ask for ticket refunds to upcoming shows, etc? I would be in tears if I had tickets to this show and made travel plans. I'm not sure how I would handle it.

It is just a music concert....people are getting refunds. Events risk getting cancelled, buyer beware.

I've had 3.5 shows get cancelled on me in 10 years. One which I made nonrefundable travel accommodations for.

You just got to shrug your shoulders and maybe have a quick vent. Then, find something else to do and move on.

mookeywrench said:

It is just a music concert....people are getting refunds. Events risk getting cancelled, buyer beware.

I've had 3.5 shows get cancelled on me in 10 years. One which I made nonrefundable travel accommodations for.

You just got to shrug your shoulders and maybe have a quick vent. Then, find something else to do and move on.

See, I have read that it is just a concert and not a big deal, but if that was true why did it matter if PJ canceled or not? Obviously it was a big deal because it made the news and PJ felt it would be a big deal if they canceled it.