2016 Republican Presidential Candidates.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    I'm still of a mind that it is not the possibility that Trump will be elected (he won't) that should be of concern but rather that so many have yet to come to their senses and see how self defeating it is to support a misogynistic, hateful potential tyrant like Trump for the position of President of the United States.

    It's very perplexing isn't it?
    So many Americans want this guy as your next leader.
    They are caught up in something they don't understand. These are people who are impressed by a bullies nature, by bravado and loud barking and ranting. They feed on anger and hate. And what creates this kind of mind set? Poor parenting and poor education.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    I'm still of a mind that it is not the possibility that Trump will be elected (he won't) that should be of concern but rather that so many have yet to come to their senses and see how self defeating it is to support a misogynistic, hateful potential tyrant like Trump for the position of President of the United States.

    It's very perplexing isn't it?
    So many Americans want this guy as your next leader.
    Yet 70% have a negative opinion of him.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    And what percentage have a positive view of Clinton?
    I would like to compare the numbers.
    Either way the voter majority is leaning Trump - actual voters.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And what percentage have a positive view of Clinton?
    I would like to compare the numbers.
    Either way the voter majority is leaning Trump - actual voters.

    Don't kid yourself, all 3rd party voters have yet to voice their opinions, but they will come November.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Free said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And what percentage have a positive view of Clinton?
    I would like to compare the numbers.
    Either way the voter majority is leaning Trump - actual voters.

    Don't kid yourself, all 3rd party voters have yet to voice their opinions, but they will come November.
    You would think such fine upstanding get out and vote 3rd party voters that want a bern would be out in full force supporting him now and not waiting until November. What is up with that?
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Free said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And what percentage have a positive view of Clinton?
    I would like to compare the numbers.
    Either way the voter majority is leaning Trump - actual voters.

    Don't kid yourself, all 3rd party voters have yet to voice their opinions, but they will come November.
    You would think such fine upstanding get out and vote 3rd party voters that want a bern would be out in full force supporting him now and not waiting until November. What is up with that?
    A ton of them are.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016
    ^^^
    Not enough for Hilary to feel the bern though.
    It's like saying that there are a ton more bern supporters waiting to vote?
    All of Clintons voters have spoken and she is leading.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Not enough for Hilary to feel the bern though.
    It's like saying that there are a ton more bern supporters waiting to vote?
    All of Clintons voters have spoken and she is leading.

    ... but losing ground. Bernie is on the upswing!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016
    brianlux said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Not enough for Hilary to feel the bern though.
    It's like saying that there are a ton more bern supporters waiting to vote?
    All of Clintons voters have spoken and she is leading.

    ... but losing ground. Bernie is on the upswing!
    On the upswing to his maxout of support which has already been deemed not in the numbers to win at this point.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    brianlux said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Not enough for Hilary to feel the bern though.
    It's like saying that there are a ton more bern supporters waiting to vote?
    All of Clintons voters have spoken and she is leading.

    ... but losing ground. Bernie is on the upswing!
    On the upswing to his maxout of support which has already been deemed not in the numbers to win at this point.
    We shall see. I'm still optimistic!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    And what percentage have a positive view of Clinton?
    I would like to compare the numbers.
    Either way the voter majority is leaning Trump - actual voters.

    Hillary's number is about 55%. It is high, but not compared to Trump. And considering she is leading Trump by an average of 10 points in the latest polls, the vehemency of the negatives is stronger with Trump. Your statement that the majority is leaning to Trump is not backed by any data. See for yourself: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    RCP Average 3/16 - 3/26 -- -- 49.7 39.1 Clinton +10.6
    PPP (D) 3/24 - 3/26 1083 RV 3.0 48 41 Clinton +7
    FOX News 3/20 - 3/22 1016 RV 3.0 49 38 Clinton +11
    Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 815 LV 3.4 54 36 Clinton +18
    Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 1451 RV 2.6 46 40 Clinton +6
    CBS News/NY Times 3/17 - 3/20 1058 RV 4.0 50 40 Clinton +10
    CNN/ORC 3/17 - 3/20 925 RV 3.0 53 41 Clinton +12
    Monmouth 3/17 - 3/20 848 RV 3.4 48 38 Clinton +10
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    On Meet the Press David Brooks just predicted that

    1. Trump will be the nominee
    2. 100 years from now history will remember Trump as the biggest political disaster in US history
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Gern Blansten said:

    On Meet the Press David Brooks just predicted that

    1. Trump will be the nominee
    2. 100 years from now history will remember Trump as the biggest political disaster in US history

    Mondale lost 49 states, so that will be hard to top. But yet...within his reach...
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    yeah he said "forget Mondale, forget McGovern"
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Gern Blansten said:

    yeah he said "forget Mondale, forget McGovern"

    That would make him 'the best' at losing, for sure.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    PJ_Soul said:

    At any rate, the very idea that abortion would be illegal is ridiculous. I can't fucking believe that the question was even raised. I mean, what fucking century is the US in???

    Just some of our nation.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    brianlux said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    At any rate, the very idea that abortion would be illegal is ridiculous. I can't fucking believe that the question was even raised. I mean, what fucking century is the US in???

    Yeah, sometimes I feel like we have century zones instead of time zones here. You're right, the question shouldn't have even been raised, and it really wouldn't be where I live. But go to some of our bible thumping southern states, and I feel like we're doing the time warp. Hell, I just read this heartbreaking article that happened in Texas - something that I couldn't imagine happening in my state:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/31/texas-forced-this-woman-to-deliver-a-stillborn-baby.html
    We love our southern neighbours don't get us wrong. But like you said some of your bible thumping southern states, wow.
    You will not progress with religion.
    Anyhow - Americans are nice people and mean well.
    Only it's not that easily divided up. I lived in western New York for two years and that area was known as "The Bible Belt".

    The north and south US are still divided, no doubt, but it's a complicated division and a lot of it remains due to the stigma of "winners" and "losers" in the civil war. Maybe if we removed the stigma some of the craziness would dissipate. Wish I knew the answer to that one. The internet might be able to change some of that.
    Brian, politicians and those in power want to keep us divided.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ^ To me, the break is generally defined by urban and rural. It's like they say with Pennsylvania... it's Philly and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in the middle.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    mrussel1 said:

    ^ To me, the break is generally defined by urban and rural. It's like they say with Pennsylvania... it's Philly and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in the middle.

    Funny.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/04/05/cruz-beats-trump-in-national-poll.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

    oops Donald....
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2

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