Some facts for the Obama haters

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
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  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,759
    edited February 2016
    Hola!

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    rgambs said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    rgambs said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    my2hands said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    rgambs said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    fact-

    obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

    why doesn't he just do that?

    Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.
    he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

    they do a good enough job of that on their own.
    Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow
    there is no squirming. they just refuse to hold meetings/hearings and then refuse to answer questions from the media.

    it is very hold to hold people accountable or make them squirm when they absolutely refuse to do their fucking job.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "Brutal dictators"

    President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

    With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    JC29856 said:

    "Brutal dictators"

    President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

    With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.

    of course.

    it is not a crime when our guys do it. only when theirs torture our people.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The Obama administration has long called itself the most transparent administration in history. But newly released Department of Justice (DOJ) documents show that the White House has actually worked aggressively behind the scenes to scuttle congressional reforms designed to give the public better access to information possessed by the federal government.

    https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited March 2016
    This is such a phenomenal article. I view it as very positive but certainly understand that it will be inteperted differently by his critics.

    It also makes me very nervous about Hillary.

    I very much appreciate how smart and pragmatic Obama is. Well worth the read by everyone

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited March 2016
    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • JWPearl
    JWPearl Posts: 19,893
    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
    and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
    violence
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
    and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
    violence
    Mmmmmkay...
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    :anguished:
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
    and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
    violence
    Mmmmmkay...
    Makes sense.
    Problem solved.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    there you going using facts again......
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
    and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
    violence
    Isn't the act of eradicating violence violent?

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    eddiec said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JWPearl said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    "Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

    i disagree...
    How so?

    Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want
    well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
    and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
    violence
    Isn't the act of eradicating violence violent?

    It's a trap. There is no escape from this reasoning.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited March 2016
    And I'm supposed to be polite and allow religious people to have their beliefs.

    People we need to be forceful and call out the lunacy. It's in humanities best interests.

    And to keep thread integrity think Obama has done incredibly well with what he was given. WHOOT.
    Post edited by callen on
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