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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    JC29856 said:

    Trump getting trashed. Does it hurt or help his campaign.




    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mortgage-failed-heres-what-that-says-about-the-gop-front-runner/2016/02/28/f8701880-d00f-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

    I had just watched Rubio trash trump at the collage forum......Rubio just ended his chances of even going any further in my opinion, comments about his tan..his hands ? this Cuban has some real class, if you like Trump or not doesn't matter, the juvenile personal attacks at RNC debate showed me what an idiot these two other candidates really are, if trump drops out for some reason I doubt I'll be voting republican..... EFFIN A-HOLES !

    Godfather.

    Hold up....you don't like these guys resorting to personal attacks but you do like Trump who has based his entire candidacy on personal attacks?
    The cognitive dissonance is breathtaking.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    just wait for the fall out, Rubio his finished and I'd rather see almost anybody except Clinton in office, good grief we have almost no reasonable candidates to vote for but trump and sanders and trump is killin this race. I couldn't vote sanders anyway.

    Godfather.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,023
    edited February 2016
    Godfather. said:

    just wait for the fall out, Rubio his finished and I'd rather see almost anybody except Clinton in office, good grief we have almost no reasonable candidates to vote for but trump and sanders and trump is killin this race. I couldn't vote sanders anyway.

    Godfather.

    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    Also, feel free to answer the question on Trump
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Godfather. said:

    JC29856 said:

    Trump getting trashed. Does it hurt or help his campaign.




    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mortgage-failed-heres-what-that-says-about-the-gop-front-runner/2016/02/28/f8701880-d00f-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

    I had just watched Rubio trash trump at the collage forum......Rubio just ended his chances of even going any further in my opinion, comments about his tan..his hands ? this Cuban has some real class, if you like Trump or not doesn't matter, the juvenile personal attacks at RNC debate showed me what an idiot these two other candidates really are, if trump drops out for some reason I doubt I'll be voting republican..... EFFIN A-HOLES !

    Godfather.

    Hold up....you don't like these guys resorting to personal attacks but you do like Trump who has based his entire candidacy on personal attacks?
    With trump supporters it's monkey see monkey do
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,023
    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Great stuff Cliff.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Trump is unstoppable


    Trade, immigration...Make America Great Again.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2016/02/21/after-south-carolina-heres-why-donald-trump-will-be-americas-next-president/#481fc7fe8e86

    WOOT WOOOOT
    Chugga chugga wooooooot

  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Trump...
    "It got your attention, didn't it"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Cliffy6745 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

    I wouldn't put anything past Florida but agreed that the electoral map is reassuring.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    From my perspective, lots of folks are getting nervous about having The Tru Don as the next President.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    People getting angry. People get angry when not winning.

    We're going to start winning so much, we are going to get tired of winning!
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    usamamasan1 said:

    People getting angry. People get angry when not winning.

    We're going to start winning so much, we are going to get tired of winning!

    https://youtu.be/DnpO_RTSNmQ

    #MAKEDONALDDRUMPFAGAIN
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Trade and Immigration
    This recipe will bake the cake

    MADISON, Ala.—Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump picked up the backing of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions on Sunday, another big endorsement ahead of Super Tuesday’s crucial slate of GOP primaries.
    Sessions, a conservative heavyweight known for his hardline immigration views, backed Trump at a packed rally in a local football stadium here, praising his stance on immigration and trade and calling his campaign a “movement… that must not fade away.”
    “The American people are not happy with their government,” Sessions said. “We have an opportunity Tuesday. It may be the last opportunity we have for the people’s voice to be heard.”
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Cliffy6745 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

    He could flip OH PA and VA though...it's a possibility. A scary one.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

    He could flip OH PA and VA though...it's a possibility. A scary one.
    I feel like he could flip States but only if disaster has struck the Democrats. Which is why I am so against Clinton. If she all but wraps up the nomination tomorrow we'll still have eight whole months to hope/pray that her next scandal doesn't break. I wouldn't make that bet.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JimmyV said:

    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

    He could flip OH PA and VA though...it's a possibility. A scary one.
    I feel like he could flip States but only if disaster has struck the Democrats. Which is why I am so against Clinton. If she all but wraps up the nomination tomorrow we'll still have eight whole months to hope/pray that her next scandal doesn't break. I wouldn't make that bet.
    Exactly my concern.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Trump secret service take down! Christopher Morris hero.

    https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-rally-journalist-secret-service_us_56d49284e4b0bf0dab32f101/amp?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,023
    rgambs said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    JimmyV said:

    Cliffy6745 said:



    Trump has absolutely no shot in a general election.

    I wish I felt this confident. Didn't we all say the same thing about him no shot at getting the nomination a few months ago?

    Craziest election cycle I have ever seen.

    Fair point. I just don't see what states he can confidently flip. Thankfully, I think we are at a point where you can't win a general election with the crazy white racist male vote. I don't see any path to an additional 64 votes on this map. Basically he has to flip Florida, which I can't see, along with a few of the very white Midwest states. He won't flip Florida, so he then has to flip Colorado, NM and a good number of the Midwest states. Don't see it.

    image

    The general election is going to have a very different tone. For one, say what you will about Hillary but she would absolutely wipe the floor with Trump in debates where there will actually be substance. Also, while Trump will get a good amount of the republican establishment and advisers on his side, I also think you will see a lot of pretty big names that won't endorse/support him, inside and out of politics.

    He could flip OH PA and VA though...it's a possibility. A scary one.
    I definitely have too much optimism for PA, but given they/we (been in philly 10 years and still feels weird saying we for PA, but that's beside the point) voted twice in a row for a black guy and have a large minority population (not just in Philly), that it would pretty easily go for the Dem.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,023
    JC29856 said:

    Trump secret service take down! Christopher Morris hero.

    https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-rally-journalist-secret-service_us_56d49284e4b0bf0dab32f101/amp?

    Eh. Those rallies seem like they are out of control. Dude should be allowed wherever he wants but no need to respond by swearing at the secret service

    This is seriously scary though

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-threatens-to-weaken-first-amendment-protections-for-reporters/
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