Hillary won more votes for President

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Bernie can't afford to just be close. He has to win some important states convincingly to start closing the delegate count. He will likely only win CO, MA, VT.. maybe OK and MN. But he needs to win them by like 20 points as Hillary will rack up huge delegate numbers in the South. The math is very daunting for him.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    There is a remedy for not being able to afford your house it's called foreclose. The buyer is out of the house and the bank now has its collateral.
    There is a remedy for lying realtors, never using them again.

    I'm not sure they lied... they were naive like everyone else. Housing values ALWAYS increase...right? Until they don't... But my point is that the whole chain had a hand in what culminated in 2008. I bought a house in Northern Virginia in 2002, right as the market was really zooming. NOVA is quite expensive and the realtor kept trying to move me up...take a 3/1/1 you can't lose! I've always been anti-balloon, anti-ARM so I didn't bite, but it would have been very easy for that proverbial "least sophisticated consumer".
    I found this for you...check it out. Covers the housing crisis.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/01/20/whos-to-blame-for-the-mortgage-mess-banks-not-homeowners/
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited February 2016
    Hillary = GWBv2.0

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html

    NYT editorial on Libya

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/opinion/29tue1.html?referer=https://t.co/fJADmdL32G
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    edited February 2016
    JC29856 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    JC29856 said:

    There is a remedy for not being able to afford your house it's called foreclose. The buyer is out of the house and the bank now has its collateral.
    There is a remedy for lying realtors, never using them again.

    I'm not sure they lied... they were naive like everyone else. Housing values ALWAYS increase...right? Until they don't... But my point is that the whole chain had a hand in what culminated in 2008. I bought a house in Northern Virginia in 2002, right as the market was really zooming. NOVA is quite expensive and the realtor kept trying to move me up...take a 3/1/1 you can't lose! I've always been anti-balloon, anti-ARM so I didn't bite, but it would have been very easy for that proverbial "least sophisticated consumer".
    I found this for you...check it out. Covers the housing crisis.

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/01/20/whos-to-blame-for-the-mortgage-mess-banks-not-homeowners/
    The article goes into great detail to support its premise that the issue was 90% lender caused, but I don't know how it comes up with that %. It doesn't explore, at all, the consumer's role, the agent's, etc. It only focuses on the lender, which is fine. It's intended to be a persuasive article, but it's certainly not an 'analysis'. For example, it puts this in quotes..
    People shouldn't be sympathetic to banks that effectively say: "Hey, we knew the applicants were lying and wouldn't be able to repay the loans. We didn't care because we didn't hold onto the loans. We offloaded the risk to investors through the securitization process. But so what? Blame the deadbeat borrowers for the volume of foreclosures today."

    I'm sorry, whose quote is that? Is he quoting an entire industry? That quote is the premise for a paragraph that said the banks knowingly underwrote bad loans.

    Again, I'm not saying the banks weren't complicit or negligent. They were. But it was an entire economy built around housing. You had cities like Phoenix and Las Vegas where a substantial part of the economy was built around the housing cycle that fell apart together. Contractors, laborers, real estate, brokers, banks, all in it together. All going down together.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    This dried up bag is not qualified to be President and will never be President. It's Trump dontcha know


    Clinton pays tribute to black victims – ignores officers killed in line of duty

    Tuh
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/27/clinton-pays-tribute-to-black-victims-ignores-officers-killed-in-line-duty.html
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    usamamasan1 said:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/27/clinton-pays-tribute-to-black-victims-ignores-officers-killed-in-line-duty.html

    She prob just going with the numbers police killed in line if duty 126 mostly by vehicle accidents versus blacks killed by cop 238. I'm just guessing.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    usamamasan1 said:

    This dried up bag is not qualified to be President and will never be President. It's Trump dontcha know


    Clinton pays tribute to black victims – ignores officers killed in line of duty

    Tuh

    OK, so lets see. it's:

    Bernie:
    "old bag"
    "old goat"
    "bitch boy whore"

    Hillary:
    "Hitlary"
    "dried up bag"

    Tru...

    ...

    I can't do it! No way can I be funnier than you guys with your silly name calling.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    brianlux said:

    usamamasan1 said:

    This dried up bag is not qualified to be President and will never be President. It's Trump dontcha know


    Clinton pays tribute to black victims – ignores officers killed in line of duty

    Tuh

    OK, so lets see. it's:

    Bernie:
    "old bag"
    "old goat"
    "bitch boy whore"

    Hillary:
    "Hitlary"
    "dried up bag"

    Tru...

    ...

    I can't do it! No way can I be funnier than you guys with your silly name calling.
    Juvenile name calling is best left to the experts on the GOP stage. Rubio and Cruz are now dragged down into it.

    It reminds me of a quote I once heard that I remember every day at work.."You can't argue with a crazy person. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.".
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    brianlux said:

    usamamasan1 said:

    This dried up bag is not qualified to be President and will never be President. It's Trump dontcha know


    Clinton pays tribute to black victims – ignores officers killed in line of duty

    Tuh

    OK, so lets see. it's:

    Bernie:
    "old bag"
    "old goat"
    "bitch boy whore"

    Hillary:
    "Hitlary"
    "dried up bag"

    Tru...

    ...

    I can't do it! No way can I be funnier than you guys with your silly name calling.
    Do you really expect anything different from a trump supporter?

    Who was also a Romney supporter and a Herman Cain supporter.
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    JC29856 said:

    usamamasan1 said:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/27/clinton-pays-tribute-to-black-victims-ignores-officers-killed-in-line-duty.html

    She prob just going with the numbers police killed in line if duty 126 mostly by vehicle accidents versus blacks killed by cop 238. I'm just guessing.
    Keep on guessing…its the liberal way
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Hillary for Prison 2016
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyists-set-raise-cash-hillary-victory-fund-2327589

    On Mar. 21, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and a handful of lobbying titans are scheduled to host a fundraiser for the Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising account for the Clinton campaign, the DNC and 32 state parties. According to an invitation obtained by the Sunlight Foundation, Podesta’s co-hosts include Steve Elmendorf, Jeff Forbes and Susan Brophy — all of whom were government officials before becoming lobbyists at top D.C. firms. The event with Podesta — whose brother is a corporate lobbyist and fundraising bundler for Clinton — follows a recent fundraising blitz by Clinton in which her campaign raised money from financial, energy and other industries that expect to have business before the next president.

    The DNC’s prohibition on lobbyist donations was instituted in 2008 at the behest of then-presidential candidate Barack Obama, who told voters: “They will not fund my party.” Clinton’s current Democratic primary opponent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, has pushed her to demand the DNC reinstate the lobbyist contribution ban. Clinton is already the top recipient of money from lobbyists in the 2016 campaign, the New York Times reported.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    She's such a con artist crook.
  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    I'm pretty conservative...not a complete nut job...but I do lean that way. I was actually looking forward to Bernie kicking her ass. There's just something about that guy I really love. I don't agree with his positions per se nor do I believe we could afford them, but at least with him I felt you had no doubts as to where he stood, and his sincerity in the message he conveyed. He seems like a genuinely good guy, with good intentions. With Clinton...I just have this wicked witch vibe, like everything we see in public is a complete put on, a very uneasy feeling, I'm sure not too unlike many have for Cruz and Trump haha.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    If anyone cares to read that entire article there is entirely too much of this throughout:
    all of whom were government officials before becoming lobbyists at top D.C. firms
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2016
    Pentagon generals objected to destroying the Libyan state. They felt Hillary did not have a safe post-war plan. Hillary Clinton went over their heads. Libya has been destroyed. It became a haven for ISIS. The Libyan national armory was looted and hundreds of tons of weapons were transferred to jihadists in Syria. Hillary's war has increased terrorism, killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians and has set back women's rights in the Middle East by hundreds of years. Having learned nothing from the Libyan disaster Hillary then set about trying do the same in Syria.

    Hillary publicly took credit for the destruction of the Libyan state. On hearing that the country's president had been killed by her handiwork, she became wild-eyed and gloated "We came, we saw, he died!". In the momentary thrill of the kill, she had aped, of all people, Julius Ceaser.

    Hillary's problem is not just that she's war hawk. She's a war hawk with bad judgement who gets an unseemly emotional rush out of killing people. She shouldn't be let near a gun shop, let alone an army. And she certainly should not become president of the United States.
    From assange
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    JC29856 said:

    Pentagon generals objected to destroying the Libyan state. They felt Hillary did not have a safe post-war plan. Hillary Clinton went over their heads. Libya has been destroyed. It became a haven for ISIS. The Libyan national armory was looted and hundreds of tons of weapons were transferred to jihadists in Syria. Hillary's war has increased terrorism, killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians and has set back women's rights in the Middle East by hundreds of years. Having learned nothing from the Libyan disaster Hillary then set about trying do the same in Syria.

    Hillary publicly took credit for the destruction of the Libyan state. On hearing that the country's president had been killed by her handiwork, she became wild-eyed and gloated "We came, we saw, he died!". In the momentary thrill of the kill, she had aped, of all people, Julius Ceaser.

    Hillary's problem is not just that she's war hawk. She's a war hawk with bad judgement who gets an unseemly emotional rush out of killing people. She shouldn't be let near a gun shop, let alone an army. And she certainly should not become president of the United States.
    From assange

    The Secretary of State doesn't control the armed forces. That's the commander in chief. How do you hold Clinton responsible for the final judgment of Obama? Post war planning is also not the purview of the State Department. That's a military function. The State department runs the diplomats. It seems that your beef should be with POTUS.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    That being said, I"m concerned with both Dems and GOP hawkishness. But with Rand Paul out of the mix and Bernie being the longest of shots, there will not be a sea change in our foreign policy in the next administration.
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