Bernie Sanders for President

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
    Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Free said:

    You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

    It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.

    Made up polls like in Nevada that actually had Bernie closer than the voters did?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html

    Polls aren't perfect and that is why you look for trends, not at any single result. The trends for Bernie going into Super Tuesday aren't good. Can he still close? Sure. Is it likely? No.
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  • lolobugg
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    edited February 2016
    Free said:

    Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!



    I support this!!!

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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
    JimmyV said:

    Free said:

    You guys really follow polls? Polls are made up and they mean nothing, they really do. It is the manipulation of the media at its finest . Just ignore the news, a lot of bullshit out there. But to mention polls, they are saying that Bernie is ahead of Hillary so what does that say?

    It's all about getting out the vote at this point. Get out and vote in the primaries. That's what makes a difference.

    Made up polls like in Nevada that actually had Bernie closer than the voters did?

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-5337.html

    Polls aren't perfect and that is why you look for trends, not at any single result. The trends for Bernie going into Super Tuesday aren't good. Can he still close? Sure. Is it likely? No.
    But you'll never know for sure until after that day because it all depends on the votes. Yeah, I know the DNC is rigging the election. That should be crucified by the public and the DNC chairwoman should be brought to justice for the illegal behavior of the DNC. The superdelegates eight years ago went with Hillary to remember? Then they went to Obama.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
    lolobugg said:


    I support this!!!

    Thumbs up.

    What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.
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  • lolobugg
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    Free said:

    lolobugg said:


    I support this!!!

    Thumbs up.

    What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.
    I couldn't believe after the Nevada primary that they were saying Hillary has the nomination in the bag.
    I was pretty sure Nevada split delegates but I had to go look it up after seeing this BS.
    and also watching Cruz give his "winning" speech in SC had me cracking up.
    Media does NOT want Bernie to get the nod.
    and WTF to "SuperDelegates"??? this kind of anti-democracy loophole is why I am a registered independent and will NEVER give a red (or blue) cent to the DNC.

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  • Free
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    Totally agree, Lolobugg. :)
  • callen
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    Free said:

    lolobugg said:


    I support this!!!

    Thumbs up.

    What they're saying in the media is absolutely atrocious. But people believe it. Now that's really really scary. And it prevents this country for moving forward, and it prevents people from questioning anything. That's probably why we have Trump winning the Republican candidacy. The rest of the world is embarrassed for us. And they're laughing.
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  • callen
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    edited February 2016
    As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    callen said:

    As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.

    no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.
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  • callen
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    gimmesometruth27 said:

    callen said:

    As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.

    no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.
    They would not have to follow but they would.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    edited February 2016
    callen said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    callen said:

    As to super delegates. If Bernie won majority of regular delegates the super would have to follow. If not they'd be committing shocked a d a real viable third party.

    no, the super delegates would NOT have to follow. they are already in the bag for clinton. if it comes down to super delegates, clinton is your nominee and your next president.
    They would not have to follow but they would.
    let's ask debbie wasserman schultz.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-superdelegates-democrats-219286
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I got a Bernie pollster call last night. Pretty much all he wanted to know is if I'm black or Hispanic.
  • lolobugg
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    what dreams said:

    I got a Bernie pollster call last night. Pretty much all he wanted to know is if I'm black or Hispanic.

    what dreams said:

    I got a Bernie pollster call last night. Pretty much all he wanted to know is if I'm black or Hispanic.

    Are you sure that wasn't Hillary call? Wait didn't ask if you were a woman

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  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,444
    Free said:

    Do you realize Obama lost Nevada too? All we have to do is go back eight years and see how things unfolded. Just because the establishment media is saying one thing does not mean they are always correct. Kill your TV. And VOTE!

    Yes! Thank you. I need to become a citizen as soon as I can, so I can fucking vote again too. Sigh.
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  • eddiec
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    In a way, aren't the super delegates basically the same thing as the electoral college but at the primary level?
    I know it never happens but technically a candidate could win a state and the electoral college could go the other way if they wanted, no?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    What are the states that Bernie Sanders is going to win on Super Tuesday?

    Which polls are wrong?

    What is his path to the nomination?

    These are all legitimate questions.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Gern Blansten said:

    at this point Sanders only has a chance to win Massachusetts....and Hillary is still favored there

    Vermont too. But other than that? Being blown out in South Carolina and then being blown out across the South on Super Tuesday...I don't see the case for claiming this is still a competive race. Which is a shame.
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