Making a Murderer (Crime-Docu similar to West Memphis Three case)

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

polaris_x said:
i just don't buy the impartiality of these shows because as we know - mainstream media's job is to perpetuate the current structure of compliance ... the biggest obstacle to steven avery being released is actually the media attention this case has gotten ...

it's sort of similar to the WM3 where they had to plead guilty for their freedom ... there is no way the justice system will set him free because any admittance of wrongdoing ultimately shows the justice the system for what it is .. which is corrupt and faulty ...

I AGREE

dignin · January 2016

Judge Jeanine Pirro on FOX eh ....I'm sure she will give Avery a fair shake.

You want to puke a little in your mouth, watch some of her handywork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATGdlxh2PIg

Gern Blansten · January 2016

was there even any evidence to show that the bones were actually Halbach's?

I know her phone and pda were found in a burn barrel

Gern Blansten · January 2016

MayDay10 said:

Gern Blansten said:
I do wonder why anyone (other than Steven Avery) would have put branches, etc. on the vehicle.

If the vehicle was planted there by someone else to implicate Steven they would have just left it there.
It looked it was hidden by someone who wanted to cartoonishly make it look like someone was hiding it.

right and he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed....but assuming he put the vehicle there it still doesn't explain why more dna wasn't in the vehicle, fingerprints, etc.

dimitrispearljam · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
was there even any evidence to show that the bones were actually Halbach's?

I know her phone and pda were found in a burn barrel

They found somε tissueον a bone?cant remember

dcrouthamel · January 2016

My contention is very simple in this case. Thresa Halbachs DNA was found in three separate places; the garage, in the burn pit, and in the in the car. I want you to speak these two sentences and see if they make sense to you. 1) Steven Avery is a forensic expert and can cover up murder without a trace of blood. 2) Steven Avery is unable to dismantle a vehicle down to nothing.

He sure spent a lot of time cleaning up all the blood from the garage. He did have those three days which the prosecution keeps on saying but yeah he chose not to do anything with the vehicle!!!

How Brandon Dassey's testimony wasn't thrown out immediately is beyond me its sick and it's sad.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.

Well... if it meant saving yourself from being discovered for a murder you committed... I'm thinking a person might find the energy to do the work.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.
Well... if it meant saving yourself from being discovered for a murder you committed... I'm thinking a person might find the energy to do the work.

Right but that would mean using some pretty large equipment that seemed to be right in the middle of the Avery Salvage Yard garage. How does one do that in the middle of the night (or day) and be discrete?

dignin · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.
Well... if it meant saving yourself from being discovered for a murder you committed... I'm thinking a person might find the energy to do the work.
Right but that would mean using some pretty large equipment that seemed to be right in the middle of the Avery Salvage Yard garage. How does one do that in the middle of the night (or day) and be discrete?

Well, he supposedly kidnapped, raped, murdered her all in daylight on the property. Not to mention dismembering her body.

Using the equipment to dismantle then crush the car in the day would be the least odd or far fetched thing in the whole scenario, considering it's a salvage yard.

dcrouthamel · January 2016

That's exactly my point - this is backward in the findings. Now take it a step further who had access to his blood, found the bullet, found the key. Why would a police officer lie Under oath about what time he arrived at the victims vehicle. What would a police officer need to call dispatch about Theresa's plates for.

These are the tragic questions that unfortunately will never get answered. Paint the picture using only grey and that's what you'll find

William Wallace · January 2016

So anyone seen the FOX report?

dignin · January 2016

William Wallace said:
So anyone seen the FOX report?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/01/10/guilty-or-framed-judge-jeanine-investigates-making-murderer-case-steven-avery

Shawshank · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.

For someone who's done that kind of work all their life it might take a couple hours at most, but probably much less than that It's not as hard as it seems when you are pulling them apart to scrap.

There's absolutely no way this guy is guilty. I can't believe the jury was that stupid. I mean seriously...a sliced throat and abdominal stabbing with no trace of blood??? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. It's not like this guy was Dexter or something.

William Wallace · January 2016

dignin said:

William Wallace said:
So anyone seen the FOX report?
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/01/10/guilty-or-framed-judge-jeanine-investigates-making-murderer-case-steven-avery

WTF is this?
The female version of Kratz?
This lady is a joke, and so are her arguments.

MayDay10 · January 2016

Finished it up last night. Also read quite a bit of other sources last week.

If nothing else, both Avery and Dassey should have a fair case re-tried elsewhere.

Gern Blansten · January 2016

Shawshank said:

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.
For someone who's done that kind of work all their life it might take a couple hours at most, but probably much less than that It's not as hard as it seems when you are pulling them apart to scrap.

There's absolutely no way this guy is guilty. I can't believe the jury was that stupid. I mean seriously...a sliced throat and abdominal stabbing with no trace of blood??? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. It's not like this guy was Dexter or something.

Right I'm not saying it's hard...I'm saying it is unlikely since Avery's entire family lives on that scrapyard and it might have been hard to do without being seen

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Shawshank said:

Gern Blansten said:
I heard (haven't verified) that in order to crush a car the engine and transmission must be removed. That would require quite a bit of work that someone might not want to mess with.
For someone who's done that kind of work all their life it might take a couple hours at most, but probably much less than that It's not as hard as it seems when you are pulling them apart to scrap.

There's absolutely no way this guy is guilty. I can't believe the jury was that stupid. I mean seriously...a sliced throat and abdominal stabbing with no trace of blood??? Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. It's not like this guy was Dexter or something.
Right I'm not saying it's hard...I'm saying it is unlikely since Avery's entire family lives on that scrapyard and it might have been hard to do without being seen

I'm not sure anybody would have looked at such an event at the scrapyard as out of the ordinary. I would contend that if anything might have been indicative of guilt... it would have been her vehicle dismantled and crushed.

Hidden underneath a twig and parked near an entrance, while the apparent murder scenes (they're not really sure where the event took place despite the forced confession that belies all facts) were cleansed of all DNA evidence, doesn't look right at all in my eyes.

polaris_x · January 2016

it's all about protecting the Wisconsin DOJ now ...

pjalive21 · January 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Gern Blansten said:
It's hard for me to comment knowing that some of you haven't watched all of it yet. I don't want to spoil anything.

I would suggest that you finish it ASAP because there seem to be a lot of articles popping up about it. Once you are done watching the documentary do some google searches on "Steven Avery evidence" and see what you think.

We've likely been reading the same articles. I'm curious to know what you think.
I'm really disappointed in what the documentary left out. It would still be an interesting case but why leave out extremely important pieces?

Personal agenda...I haven't seen this yet but im seeing more and more stories coming out tearing this documentary down for being biased and leaving out facts

im personally not going to watch it due to its lack of credibility, but that may change once more comes out

Making a Murderer (Crime-Docu similar to West Memphis Three case)

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