What the hell happen in Virginia??
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So cops walking around with guns, are for no other purpose, than to kill. Right? Or do they use them to PROTECT the community?Last-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
Keep piling it on.
And add as many graphs as you'd like. Maybe it's Americans who have a problem with killing not guns.
That's been my stance since the start btw. Is that guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. that's my first post in this thread. I still believe that.
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Oh, so once a point is made, it's no longer relevant to the argument . Got itrgambs said:
None of those are really guns as it pertains to this argument, aside from the target guns.Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
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Maybe look for a better area to live? I think a lot of this paranoia is created by the media. People should just switch the tv off. Get away from the propaganda. Or just stick with it because it makes them feel like their personal arsenal of deadly "toys" is justified.Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue! http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/148993/please-pearl-jam-consider-a-vinyl-benaroya-hall-re-issue0
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Why not?JUST A GIRL said:
No I don't. But I also don't need those things to protect my home and children.rgambs said:
Honest question, no bullying, no emotional provocation.JUST A GIRL said:
Is it legal for me to buy a gun? It is. So blame the decision makers, not me.Cliffy6745 said:
I don't see it that way. I see you as being twisted for being okay with legally owned guns being in these people's hands. How is that okay?!?JUST A GIRL said:You're really twisted for continuing to try and blame me for the kids being murdered.
And pj soul, you have nothing to say to argue what I say, instead you make more snide, bullying remarks. It's getting old, you thinking your opinion is above everyone else's. It's not and comes across very holier than thou.
But we could try blaming the true person responsible. The shooter. That's who is to blame. Not guns. How can you not see that?? I own a gun and don't kill people. It's the person making the decision. Not the gun. Like I said, my mom owns a gun and has never fired it. It's not about the gun, but others actions.
But I am done talking with you, if you keep on saying that you blame ME. I had nothing to do with anything. If you are that upset with your existence that you must do so to feel better, then feel free. But you saying those things to me, and no one else having a word to say about how fucked up that is, just shows how much you guys treat others like shit. I thought we were all pj fans here, having a debate. Instead I'm over here in tears because i am accused of being responsible for murdering children. How is your mind so twisted? That's just beyond uncalled for.
Do you think it should be legal to purchase nerve gas, pipe bombs, grenades, rocket launchers, or nuclear bombs?
You don't need a gun to protect your home either. There are plenty of other options.
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The point was that as long as there are people like you claiming there isn't a gun problem, nothing will ever change.
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Perhaps there's also a correlation there. It seems to me that many Americans take gun ownership far more personally than many other nations do. It's a God given right in the US whereas in many countries it is a regulated responsibility that is restricted and can easily be removed should you prove to be irresponsible. In Canada, nobody feels that they have the right to own a handgun or an automatic weapon and we don't fear for our lives in the absence of these tools.JUST A GIRL said:
So cops walking around with guns, are for no other purpose, than to kill. Right? Or do they use them to PROTECT the community?Last-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
Keep piling it on.
And add as many graphs as you'd like. Maybe it's Americans who have a problem with killing not guns.
That's been my stance since the start btw. Is that guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. that's my first post in this thread. I still believe that.
As for cops; they can walk around with as many guns as they wish. It doesn't change the fact that the intended purpose of a firearm is to kill. Even with police officers, a sidearm is a lethal weapon to be used as a last resort. You can deny it as much as you want, but in a society with easy access to a tool that is intended to inflict fatal injuries on fellow living things, it's not exactly surprising that gun related homicides go up per capita.0 -
It's tough getting called out for something you don't wish to be called out on.JUST A GIRL said:
I said what I said because of what was said to me, which by the way was much worse than my response. I haven't called one person a single name, until I'm told I'm being held personally responsible for murder. Then all gloves are off.Bentleyspop said:
Another thoughtful mature response.JUST A GIRL said:
Go fuck your self telling me I have blood on my hands from 20 dead kids. Pathetic assholeCliffy6745 said:
This mentality is partly responsible for 20 dead kids in Sandy Hook. You and everyone who thinks this way has blood on their hands.JUST A GIRL said:I keep hearing a guns main purpose is "for killing" when the truth is, it's for PROTECTION. That's the purpose of a gun. You own a pistol so when some meth head breaks in you have a fighting chance against someone with super human strength.
My mother, 88, had a revolver that has sat in her nightstand the last 50 years. She's never shot anyone, never hurt anyone, and the GUN ITSELF sure as hell never hurt anyone.
I'll say it again, guns don't kill people. People do. When people use guns to kill and go to jail, and then kill again, they aren't using guns. They're using whatever they can because IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KILL, THEY WILL. Regardless of Having a gun or not.
I said guns are for protection, and people kill, not guns. Nothing to say about those thigs that are facts! Instead you spew more uninformed hate. You're pathetic.
I sense an imminent banning
IBTL
There is a faction of people in the US that can see the problem for what it is. It's not even that hard to see... you don't have to be a rocket scientist. And then... there is a significant faction of the people in the US that adamantly resist meaningful gun legislation with logic that could befuddle a chimpanzee; thereby, indirectly contributing to the senseless, needless deaths of so many every day.
So... yah... the mentality you possess leaves you somewhat culpable for the gun violence your country experiences because you stymie progress and change.
Gonna swear at me now too?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
The questions pertaining to the AK-47 was not that you can't own an AK but was asking why a regular civilian needs one.Godfather. said:
who are you to say I can't ?Leezestarr313 said:
So why don't people use these? Why does a regular civilian have to own an AK-47?Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
I for one support the 2nd amendment but see no rational reason for a "regular civilian" would ever need one.0 -
What the hell are you talking about graphs and piling on? Do you actually know how to debate without thinking you're being attacked? Grow up.JUST A GIRL said:
So cops walking around with guns, are for no other purpose, than to kill. Right? Or do they use them to PROTECT the community?Last-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
Keep piling it on.
And add as many graphs as you'd like. Maybe it's Americans who have a problem with killing not guns.
That's been my stance since the start btw. Is that guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. that's my first post in this thread. I still believe that.
Police use guns because we the people give them that authority. That doesn't change the fact that no gun has ever been made to defend or protect.0 -
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o.k buddy...help me spell this one, gun enthusiest , man I got friends that own guns for no other reason other than to have it, some guns are like classic cars to a car collector they just have to have them.Bentleyspop said:
The questions pertaining to the AK-47 was not that you can't own an AK but was asking why a regular civilian needs one.Godfather. said:
who are you to say I can't ?Leezestarr313 said:
So why don't people use these? Why does a regular civilian have to own an AK-47?Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
I for one support the 2nd amendment but see no rational reason for a "regular civilian" would ever need one.
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o.k buddy...help me spell this one, gun enthusiest , man I got friends that own guns for no other reason other than to have it, some guns are like classic cars to a car collector they just have to have them.Bentleyspop said:
The questions pertaining to the AK-47 was not that you can't own an AK but was asking why a regular civilian needs one.Godfather. said:
who are you to say I can't ?Leezestarr313 said:
So why don't people use these? Why does a regular civilian have to own an AK-47?Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
I for one support the 2nd amendment but see no rational reason for a "regular civilian" would ever need one.
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HAHHAHHAHHHAHAHA THATS FUNNY !!!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
It's tough getting called out for something you don't wish to be called out on.JUST A GIRL said:
I said what I said because of what was said to me, which by the way was much worse than my response. I haven't called one person a single name, until I'm told I'm being held personally responsible for murder. Then all gloves are off.Bentleyspop said:
Another thoughtful mature response.JUST A GIRL said:
Go fuck your self telling me I have blood on my hands from 20 dead kids. Pathetic assholeCliffy6745 said:
This mentality is partly responsible for 20 dead kids in Sandy Hook. You and everyone who thinks this way has blood on their hands.JUST A GIRL said:I keep hearing a guns main purpose is "for killing" when the truth is, it's for PROTECTION. That's the purpose of a gun. You own a pistol so when some meth head breaks in you have a fighting chance against someone with super human strength.
My mother, 88, had a revolver that has sat in her nightstand the last 50 years. She's never shot anyone, never hurt anyone, and the GUN ITSELF sure as hell never hurt anyone.
I'll say it again, guns don't kill people. People do. When people use guns to kill and go to jail, and then kill again, they aren't using guns. They're using whatever they can because IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KILL, THEY WILL. Regardless of Having a gun or not.
I said guns are for protection, and people kill, not guns. Nothing to say about those thigs that are facts! Instead you spew more uninformed hate. You're pathetic.
I sense an imminent banning
IBTL
There is a faction of people in the US that can see the problem for what it is. It's not even that hard to see... you don't have to be a rocket scientist. And then... there is a significant faction of the people in the US that adamantly resist meaningful gun legislation with logic that could befuddle a chimpanzee; thereby, indirectly contributing to the senseless, needless deaths of so many every day.
So... yah... the mentality you possess leaves you somewhat culpable for the gun violence your country experiences because you stymie progress and change.
Gonna swear at me now too?
Godfather.
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And some people like to collect panties- they just have to have them. A dentist in Minnesota likes to collect animal heads- he just has to have them.Godfather. said:
o.k buddy...help me spell this one, gun enthusiest , man I got friends that own guns for no other reason other than to have it, some guns are like classic cars to a car collector they just have to have them.Bentleyspop said:
The questions pertaining to the AK-47 was not that you can't own an AK but was asking why a regular civilian needs one.Godfather. said:
who are you to say I can't ?Leezestarr313 said:
So why don't people use these? Why does a regular civilian have to own an AK-47?Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
I for one support the 2nd amendment but see no rational reason for a "regular civilian" would ever need one.
Godfather.
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baseball anybody ! but as Al Capone said "you can get futher with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word" LOL !!!!!!rgambs said:
Why not?JUST A GIRL said:
No I don't. But I also don't need those things to protect my home and children.rgambs said:
Honest question, no bullying, no emotional provocation.JUST A GIRL said:
Is it legal for me to buy a gun? It is. So blame the decision makers, not me.Cliffy6745 said:
I don't see it that way. I see you as being twisted for being okay with legally owned guns being in these people's hands. How is that okay?!?JUST A GIRL said:You're really twisted for continuing to try and blame me for the kids being murdered.
And pj soul, you have nothing to say to argue what I say, instead you make more snide, bullying remarks. It's getting old, you thinking your opinion is above everyone else's. It's not and comes across very holier than thou.
But we could try blaming the true person responsible. The shooter. That's who is to blame. Not guns. How can you not see that?? I own a gun and don't kill people. It's the person making the decision. Not the gun. Like I said, my mom owns a gun and has never fired it. It's not about the gun, but others actions.
But I am done talking with you, if you keep on saying that you blame ME. I had nothing to do with anything. If you are that upset with your existence that you must do so to feel better, then feel free. But you saying those things to me, and no one else having a word to say about how fucked up that is, just shows how much you guys treat others like shit. I thought we were all pj fans here, having a debate. Instead I'm over here in tears because i am accused of being responsible for murdering children. How is your mind so twisted? That's just beyond uncalled for.
Do you think it should be legal to purchase nerve gas, pipe bombs, grenades, rocket launchers, or nuclear bombs?
You don't need a gun to protect your home either. There are plenty of other options.
Godfather.
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she's catching rgambs, the statement "every gun in history that was made" was clearly posted.JUST A GIRL said:
Oh, so once a point is made, it's no longer relevant to the argument . Got itrgambs said:
None of those are really guns as it pertains to this argument, aside from the target guns.Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
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define sane pleaseldent42 said:
a sane person?Godfather. said:
who are you to say I can't ?Leezestarr313 said:
So why don't people use these? Why does a regular civilian have to own an AK-47?Godfather. said:
taser pistolLast-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
riot control (shoots a bean bag)
rubber bullets
starting pistol
B.B gun
and there are target guns, I've owned a few
Godfather.
Godfather.
Aladnsane.
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Do you think the police want less guns on the street or more guns? Why would the police want the public to carry stronger weapons than what they typically carry?JUST A GIRL said:
So cops walking around with guns, are for no other purpose, than to kill. Right? Or do they use them to PROTECT the community?Last-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
Keep piling it on.
And add as many graphs as you'd like. Maybe it's Americans who have a problem with killing not guns.
That's been my stance since the start btw. Is that guns don't kill people, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. that's my first post in this thread. I still believe that.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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this says peace way louder than any gunGodfather. said:
I've had a gun in my face and let me tell you, the guy did not pull the trigger because all the suden I realized ..hey he aint such a bad guy and maybe I better be on my way.....fast as I could ! lol!!blueandwhite said:
Like it or not, a gun's only intended purpose is to kill. If guns protect you from other people with guns isn't that simply a roundabout way of saying that guns are intended for killing?Godfather. said:
that's not completly true, any gun can can be used for protection and are intended as such unless you're buying a hunting rifle, now that's for killing, kill and grill baby !Last-12-Exit said:In the history of guns, not one has ever been designed to protect. Every single gun ever made was deigned to kill. Dont kid yourself.
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nothing says PEACE like a hand gun in your face hahhahhahhah
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come on bro, adam lanza's mom was murdered by adam, a little different. after he murdered her he got the gun safe keys and we know the rest.Cliffy6745 said:James Holmes was a responsible gun owner until he wasn't
Dylan Roof was a responsible gun owner until he wasn't
Adam Lanza's mother was a responsible gun owner until she wasn't
Bryce Williams or whatever his name was was a responsible gun owner until he wasn't
Shall I go on?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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