Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
Not bullying! Can't believe someone would accuse ME of bullying when I've been bullied and laughed at all along and no one cares. I'm told I'm playing the victim. When someone is bullied they ARE the victim. Right?
I laughed so hard because we've had hundreds of posts by pj soul about gun control and how Americans are gun nuts and crazy for guns. And how we should no longer be allowed to buy them.
But then the truth comes out that he knows nothing about guns at all. He didn't say "is it auto or semi auto" he said "what's an ak47? I know nothing about guns"
I personally find it halarious that they have the time and means to post continuously how they are opposed to guns but know nothing. Where does he even form his opinions from? Sounds straight out of corporate media to me.
That's not bullying. It burns me so bad I'm accused of bullying straight away, but when I call others out for Bullying I am simply ignored and forgotten. This place is like a high school fraternity.
But again, this really is like a Fox News tactic. To take some stupid point that is totally irrelevant to the conversation, and try to discount an entire perspective with it. What a joke.
Not that most people need me to say this, but by "I know nothing about guns" I meant that I am not a gun nut (of course I know what an AK-47 is; whether it's semi-auto or auto slipped my mind). I haven't memorized the specs of each make of gun. I'm pretty sure I can still have a clear perspective of the issue. I would suggest that if anyone doesn't think so, they are total idiots.
BTW, JAG.... I couldn't care less about your ideology about bullying or whether you are bullying me or not (which you weren't - people were joking. You were bullying me about as much as I have ever bullied you, which is not at all).
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How is it so far-fetched to feel strongly about the proliferation of guns and the idiots, the assholes, the mentally ill and the irresponsible who possess them taking out innocents?
How is it so far-fetched to feel strongly about the proliferation of guns and the idiots, the assholes, the mentally ill and the irresponsible who possess them taking out innocents?
Please, take all the time you need.
Deja vu.
I'm actually irritated in this thread for the first time because of this little attempt to try and discount.... everything I've posted in this thread, apparently, as my opinion. It's just so dumb, and such a cheat.
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To think for one second that I or anyone else that disagrees with you doesn't know what we are talking about is absurd. Do you really think you're smarter than me or anyone else here because you own a gun? I doubt it. You have no clue what I know.
If you knew so much, you'd know that as little as 3 years ago, I was pro gun. I didn't think the government needed to tell americans how many and what kind of guns they should own. I know the laws, and what they mean. But guess what? 20 children being mowed down by a lunatic who's mom was a "responsible" gun owner started to change my mind. Maybe if those damn kids had side arms, they wouldn't have been shot to pieces.
So please, spare me and everyone else your high horse ex fucking wife syndrome. Because honestly, who's being close minded?
some people can star right at the facts and still not see the truth.
Godfather.
Hahaha like in the "legalizing drugs" thread where Drowning posts the facts from decriminalization in Portugal and you outright ignore them because they don't support your narrative?
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is there till semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
For someone so quick to cry wolf bullying at innocuous comments, you seem pretty quick to talk smack at others. It's truly not inconceivable to have rational discussion here, even when passionate.
Anyway, I heard a story on the news this morning about a 15-year-old kid who went on a shooting spree at his school; had an AK-47 or AR-15, I don't know (hahaha!)...but how the hell does someone his age get his hands on such a weapon? And he had others stashed at home.
What's supremely sad is when I tried to Google the story, a shitload of links to similar incidents came up.
well he didn't buy his legally. one of his dumbass parents didn't securely lock it up.
Exactly what people are saying.
Every gun owner is 'responsible' until they aren't anymore. And guns don't discern- they do exactly what they were designed to do when they get put to use.
Military style weapons? Why? Boar hunting? I don't buy it. They're just fancy toys ultimately and that's not enough, in my mind, to justify them in your neighbour's possession where his punk kiud can access it and use it on his classmates because he's in the midst of a mood swing.
The real problem is handguns though. Again... nobody needs these outside of rural area workers and 'armed professions' like cops or guards. In places like Alaska, I can understand hunters having one as a sidearm. So... outside of 'need'... handguns, like assault rifles, are really just fancy toys that end up being a serious risk to the public.
Hobbies and enjoyment should not trump public safety.
You don't need to know what an AK-47 is to understand the proliferation of guns problem that the US experiences. And attacking someone for their lack of experience with guns instead of the argument they present is telling me that the pro gun side needs to swing wherever they can.
For the link lazy, it's an online pledge to do something on Sept. 10 to help get Congress to listen to its constituents. You might need to make a call or two, or you might need to wear a silly T-shirt at some kind of rally at your State House. Whatever it takes.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
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Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
I think I do know a lot about the opposing view. I don't think that remembering if an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto is relevant to that at all. I really can't imagine that you could claim that you think so, either.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Are you serious? When did I say I didn't know the difference between auto and semi-auto?? How dumb do you really think I am? It is very clear that I said I wasn't sure at that moment if a particular gun was auto or semi-auto. Wtf. Gern was right. You are basically doing the equivalent of trying to shoot someone's opinions down because they spelled something wrong.
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auto or semi auto...do the same fuckin "auto" thing..read below
A weapon, arm, or armament is any device used in order to inflict damage or harm to living beings, structures, or systems
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Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Are you serious? When did I say I didn't know the difference between auto and semi-auto?? How dumb do you really think I am? It is very clear that I said I wasn't sure at that moment if a particular gun was auto or semi-auto. Wtf. Gern was right. You are basically doing the equivalent of trying to shoot someone's opinions down because they spelled something wrong.
An AK-47 can be either "semi-auto or full auto" depending on the model. Also a "full auto" weapon, any full auto weapon, has strict laws for owning them. Just sayin'…
And just throwing this out there.
Death by auto in 2014 was 10.345 per 100,000 in the USA. Death by auto in 2013 was 6.9 per 100,00 in Germany.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
No it's like saying Pearl Jam is a band...whether they play country or rock doesn't matter.
It's still a gun
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Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Are you serious? When did I say I didn't know the difference between auto and semi-auto?? How dumb do you really think I am? It is very clear that I said I wasn't sure at that moment if a particular gun was auto or semi-auto. Wtf. Gern was right. You are basically doing the equivalent of trying to shoot someone's opinions down because they spelled something wrong.
An AK-47 can be either "semi-auto or full auto" depending on the model. Also a "full auto" weapon, any full auto weapon, has strict laws for owning them. Just sayin'…
And just throwing this out there.
Death by auto in 2014 was 10.345 per 100,000 in the USA. Death by auto in 2013 was 6.9 per 100,00 in Germany.
I think we both have a car problem...
Can you point me in the direction of a fully automatic ak47 for sale? Something under $15000? And I m not talking downtown Mogadishu. You and I both know that they are few and far between and it takes a hell of a lot to own one. It s not like they are sitting on the shelves of bass pro shops.
Doesn't it take like $40 and 30 minutes to make an ak 47 a fully automatic weapon?
false: The National Firearms Act (NFA '34) registry, wherein all full-auto weapons must be registered, was closed to new entries in 1986. The only way to acquire a full-auto anything is to buy an existing weapon (very very expensive. 15K and up) Since the supply is frozen and the demand continues to grow, the prices reach stratospheric heights. The Feds take illegal full-auto conversions very seriously. If you get caught doing this you are going to jail for a very long time.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Are you serious? When did I say I didn't know the difference between auto and semi-auto?? How dumb do you really think I am? It is very clear that I said I wasn't sure at that moment if a particular gun was auto or semi-auto. Wtf. Gern was right. You are basically doing the equivalent of trying to shoot someone's opinions down because they spelled something wrong.
An AK-47 can be either "semi-auto or full auto" depending on the model. Also a "full auto" weapon, any full auto weapon, has strict laws for owning them. Just sayin'…
And just throwing this out there.
Death by auto in 2014 was 10.345 per 100,000 in the USA. Death by auto in 2013 was 6.9 per 100,00 in Germany.
I think we both have a car problem...
Can you point me in the direction of a fully automatic ak47 for sale? Something under $15000? And I m not talking downtown Mogadishu. You and I both know that they are few and far between and it takes a hell of a lot to own one. It s not like they are sitting on the shelves of bass pro shops.
Yes sir.
I did want to show people the difference though. There is a HUGE difference between the two.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
It seems like whether it is semi-auto or auto really has nothing to do with any part of the discussion. Single shot is most likely more accurate than fully auto....so what? A willing killer with a gun is the issue, not whether or not someone that realizes that our gun culture is insane knows whether or not a weapon is semi-auto or full auto. That's like arguing over a spelling error.
not knowing whether a not a gun is automatic or semi-automatic is the same as saying that pearl jam is a country band. it's a pretty big difference knowing the difference between auto and semi-auto.
Are you serious? When did I say I didn't know the difference between auto and semi-auto?? How dumb do you really think I am? It is very clear that I said I wasn't sure at that moment if a particular gun was auto or semi-auto. Wtf. Gern was right. You are basically doing the equivalent of trying to shoot someone's opinions down because they spelled something wrong.
An AK-47 can be either "semi-auto or full auto" depending on the model. Also a "full auto" weapon, any full auto weapon, has strict laws for owning them. Just sayin'…
And just throwing this out there.
Death by auto in 2014 was 10.345 per 100,000 in the USA. Death by auto in 2013 was 6.9 per 100,00 in Germany.
I think we both have a car problem...
Can you point me in the direction of a fully automatic ak47 for sale? Something under $15000? And I m not talking downtown Mogadishu. You and I both know that they are few and far between and it takes a hell of a lot to own one. It s not like they are sitting on the shelves of bass pro shops.
Yes sir.
I did want to show people the difference though. There is a HUGE difference between the two.
Why are people always talking about AK-47s then? Whatever that is. I don't know about guns. Is that still semi-automatic? No one should be able to have one of those either, or anything like it. I also don't support people owning handguns, actually, but thinking those should be banned isn't realistic enough.
Yeah, I think the education you're talking about also would not help the gun culture problem. Better not to talk about it at all in schools IMO. Somehow, the US has to get guns out of American's brains. Adding gun education won't do that. On the contrary. Yes, yes, I understand the issue here.... you've got a gun problem, so you need to teach kids gun safety. Yes, it's a rock and a hard place. But seriously.... Americans are gun nuts, and it's way too in the forefront in your daily lives. Something needs to be done to stop that.
Hahahaha! Such strong opinions on stuff you have zero clue about. What's an ak47?? Hahahahahahaha
Seems to be the case around here most of the time.
I didn't realize that it is imperative that I had to remember whether or not an AK-47 is automatic or semi-automatic in order to have an opinion. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You just experienced what it's like to live outside of America, where the particular specs of military grade weapons aren't common knowledge. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Yeah, so civilians shouldn't have military grade weapons. I know, it's hilarious.
Hey, wait. Are you picking on me?!?!
So how on earth can you have such a strong opinion on something that you know nothing about? That s crazy.
What is it you're expecting me to know about? Whether an AK-47 is auto or semi-auto off the top of my head while writing a post? Why do you think I need to know that in particular when considering my opinions here? Are you and JAG trying to say that you have to be a gun nut to have an opinion about the gun problem in the US?
No I'm not saying you have to be a gun nut but I feel in order to have an intelligent discussion you should know a lot about the opposing view. In fact the more you know about the opposing view the stronger your argument becomes (at least that s what I've been teaching my students for the past 15+ years).
Strange then that so many people on these and other forums have strong opinions on a variety of topics despite lacking any real expertise in most of them. You don't have to be an expert on firearms to understand the risks associated with them. Moreover, it seems that a simple handgun is deadly enough in the wrong hands. Why do I need to be an expert on specific firearms to feel that they are all fundamentally dangerous?
I can say when it comes to guns, I am glad I don't live in the United States. Even the discussions on gun rights are unsettling.
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I laughed so hard because we've had hundreds of posts by pj soul about gun control and how Americans are gun nuts and crazy for guns. And how we should no longer be allowed to buy them.
But then the truth comes out that he knows nothing about guns at all. He didn't say "is it auto or semi auto" he said "what's an ak47? I know nothing about guns"
I personally find it halarious that they have the time and means to post continuously how they are opposed to guns but know nothing. Where does he even form his opinions from? Sounds straight out of corporate media to me.
That's not bullying. It burns me so bad I'm accused of bullying straight away, but when I call others out for Bullying I am simply ignored and forgotten. This place is like a high school fraternity.
And I'm out once again.
But again, this really is like a Fox News tactic. To take some stupid point that is totally irrelevant to the conversation, and try to discount an entire perspective with it. What a joke.
Not that most people need me to say this, but by "I know nothing about guns" I meant that I am not a gun nut (of course I know what an AK-47 is; whether it's semi-auto or auto slipped my mind). I haven't memorized the specs of each make of gun. I'm pretty sure I can still have a clear perspective of the issue. I would suggest that if anyone doesn't think so, they are total idiots.
BTW, JAG.... I couldn't care less about your ideology about bullying or whether you are bullying me or not (which you weren't - people were joking. You were bullying me about as much as I have ever bullied you, which is not at all).
Please, take all the time you need.
Deja vu.
If you knew so much, you'd know that as little as 3 years ago, I was pro gun. I didn't think the government needed to tell americans how many and what kind of guns they should own. I know the laws, and what they mean. But guess what? 20 children being mowed down by a lunatic who's mom was a "responsible" gun owner started to change my mind. Maybe if those damn kids had side arms, they wouldn't have been shot to pieces.
So please, spare me and everyone else your high horse ex fucking wife syndrome. Because honestly, who's being close minded?
Every gun owner is 'responsible' until they aren't anymore. And guns don't discern- they do exactly what they were designed to do when they get put to use.
Military style weapons? Why? Boar hunting? I don't buy it. They're just fancy toys ultimately and that's not enough, in my mind, to justify them in your neighbour's possession where his punk kiud can access it and use it on his classmates because he's in the midst of a mood swing.
The real problem is handguns though. Again... nobody needs these outside of rural area workers and 'armed professions' like cops or guards. In places like Alaska, I can understand hunters having one as a sidearm. So... outside of 'need'... handguns, like assault rifles, are really just fancy toys that end up being a serious risk to the public.
Hobbies and enjoyment should not trump public safety.
Also, for the record, I think PJ_Soul forms her opinions in her brain.
Her brain is a good brain.
You don't need to know what an AK-47 is to understand the proliferation of guns problem that the US experiences. And attacking someone for their lack of experience with guns instead of the argument they present is telling me that the pro gun side needs to swing wherever they can.
Godfather.
I'll post this here, too, since it's taking place at the behest of Alison Parker's father and it seems like one thing that conscientious gun owners and anti-gun folks can agree on -- namely, that Congress needs to do its job and champion the will of the people (and not the NRA) in this country, nearly 90% of whom want some kind of reform when it comes to background checks (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/04/03/90-percent-of-americans-want-expanded-background-checks-on-guns-why-isnt-this-a-political-slam-dunk/) in order to decrease the number of these types of incidents.
For the link lazy, it's an online pledge to do something on Sept. 10 to help get Congress to listen to its constituents. You might need to make a call or two, or you might need to wear a silly T-shirt at some kind of rally at your State House. Whatever it takes.
Information, man.
Don't shoot the messenger.
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And just throwing this out there.
Death by auto in 2014 was 10.345 per 100,000 in the USA.
Death by auto in 2013 was 6.9 per 100,00 in Germany.
I think we both have a car problem...
Seamed fitting
It's still a gun
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You and I both know that they are few and far between and it takes a hell of a lot to own one. It s not like they are sitting on the shelves of bass pro shops.
The National Firearms Act (NFA '34) registry, wherein all full-auto weapons must be registered, was closed to new entries in 1986. The only way to acquire a full-auto anything is to buy an existing weapon (very very expensive. 15K and up) Since the supply is frozen and the demand continues to grow, the prices reach stratospheric heights.
The Feds take illegal full-auto conversions very seriously. If you get caught doing this you are going to jail for a very long time.
I did want to show people the difference though. There is a HUGE difference between the two.
So back now to the opinions!
I can say when it comes to guns, I am glad I don't live in the United States. Even the discussions on gun rights are unsettling.