Bernie Sanders campaign kickoff.

callen · June 2015

RiotZact said:
So I'll be honest, I usually avoid getting into politics because I'm pretty left wing and I always end up just getting pissed off that nothing I want to happen ever gets done. I know that's a poor excuse but it's what happens.

But with that being said Bernie is the perfect candidate for me, is it worth it for me to get my hopes up though? Does he stand any shred of a chance of actually getting in or should I just prepare to settle for Hillary? Some people are saying no way and others seem optimistic.

Think many have same frustration and get seriously disillusioned by the machines steady course. We did just elect a dope smoking gay loving universal healthcare promoting black president. Yeah I know he fked up some shit and he also went presidential. So have bit more hope American people have some progressive leanings.

Now to Bernie, have to listen to him a bit.

RiotZact · June 2015

callen said:

RiotZact said:
So I'll be honest, I usually avoid getting into politics because I'm pretty left wing and I always end up just getting pissed off that nothing I want to happen ever gets done. I know that's a poor excuse but it's what happens.

But with that being said Bernie is the perfect candidate for me, is it worth it for me to get my hopes up though? Does he stand any shred of a chance of actually getting in or should I just prepare to settle for Hillary? Some people are saying no way and others seem optimistic.
Think many have same frustration and get seriously disillusioned by the machines steady course. We did just elect a dope smoking gay loving universal healthcare promoting black president. Yeah I know he fked up some shit and he also went presidential. So have bit more hope American people have some progressive leanings.

Now to Bernie, have to listen to him a bit.

Yeah I probably exaggerated a little bit there, I do like him for the most part. Corporations and education are the 2 issues I get worked up about most and it's seemed to me like he constantly talks about those things but then either 1. Doesn't actually get anything done about them or 2. Actually seems to be helping corporations out.

ldent42 · June 2015

RiotZact said:

callen said:

RiotZact said:
So I'll be honest, I usually avoid getting into politics because I'm pretty left wing and I always end up just getting pissed off that nothing I want to happen ever gets done. I know that's a poor excuse but it's what happens.

But with that being said Bernie is the perfect candidate for me, is it worth it for me to get my hopes up though? Does he stand any shred of a chance of actually getting in or should I just prepare to settle for Hillary? Some people are saying no way and others seem optimistic.
Think many have same frustration and get seriously disillusioned by the machines steady course. We did just elect a dope smoking gay loving universal healthcare promoting black president. Yeah I know he fked up some shit and he also went presidential. So have bit more hope American people have some progressive leanings.

Now to Bernie, have to listen to him a bit.
Yeah I probably exaggerated a little bit there, I do like him for the most part. Corporations and education are the 2 issues I get worked up about most and it's seemed to me like he constantly talks about those things but then either 1. Doesn't actually get anything done about them or 2. Actually seems to be helping corporations out.

My biggest concern is that if he did make it into office he wouldn't be able to get anything done cuz they'd just be blocking him the way the republicans did with Obama in the early days.
My 2nd concern is that I think the electoral college would prevent him from getting elected. I don't pretend to understand the way the system works, it was somewhat explained here and then I had Googled it but I honestly don't really get it. The issue seems to be that since he's neither D nor R he won't be able to get the votes which is just stupid and a fundamental flaw in the system.
My 3rd biggest concern is that in attempting to get him elected a significant portion of well meaning voters who would otherwise probably have voted D are going to wind up "splitting" the D vote between him and Hilary - thus giving Jeb a fucking majority and we're gonna get stuck with another Bush.

Asterisk on the Street · June 2015

ldent42 said:

My biggest concern is that if he did make it into office he wouldn't be able to get anything done cuz they'd just be blocking him the way the republicans did with Obama in the early days.
My 2nd concern is that I think the electoral college would prevent him from getting elected. I don't pretend to understand the way the system works, it was somewhat explained here and then I had Googled it but I honestly don't really get it. The issue seems to be that since he's neither D nor R he won't be able to get the votes which is just stupid and a fundamental flaw in the system.
My 3rd biggest concern is that in attempting to get him elected a significant portion of well meaning voters who would otherwise probably have voted D are going to wind up "splitting" the D vote between him and Hilary - thus giving Jeb a fucking majority and we're gonna get stuck with another Bush.

Bernie Sanders is running as a Democratic Party presidential candidate. He will be up against Hillary in the Democratic Primary Election, and only one of them would run against the Republican presidential candidate in the General Election.

Your first concern will definitely be a problem for whichever Democrat wins the Election if the House and Senate stay Repub majority.

JimmyV · June 2015

Bernie tracking well in New Hampshire thus far. Being from Vermont he has a higher name-recognition value there than in other places. Plus, Hillary continues to have the stink of scandal on her. Best thing for the Dems would be a legitimate alternative candidate arising.

Vitalogensia · June 2015

I took this quiz isidewith.com/ and got a 97% match with Bernie. Guess I'll have to keep an eye on him.

RiotZact · June 2015

Vitalogensia said:
I took this quiz isidewith.com/ and got a 97% match with Bernie. Guess I'll have to keep an eye on him.

Same exact score I got last night! Although we were a little iffy on the test because my mom got 83 percent Bernie in first place then 75 percent Huckabeein second place, how would that even be possible?

brianlux · June 2015

Vitalogensia said:
I took this quiz isidewith.com/ and got a 97% match with Bernie. Guess I'll have to keep an eye on him.

Interesting quiz. I scored 96% match with Bernie Sanders. I hope he gets the Dem nomination.

I scored 3% match with Ted Cruz. Can you believe it??? LOL!

ldent42 · June 2015

I tried it but I couldn't get through the whole quiz. Too many questions. I have up entirely at the foreign policy section but i half assed the section before that too. I still wound up with a 99% match to Bernie and 90% to Hillary.

F Me In The Brain · June 2015

I was 82% Rubio although I scored +50% on many Dems as well. My answers on these things are all over the board, surprised at the outcome...I dont know much about Rubio other than Senator from FL associated with Tea Party. I didnt spend the time to dig into why it would match me with this, will need to do that as we get closer.
HillBilly was the top Dem and I strongly dislike her. A good reminder to focus on the stances people have and not their personalities. Bernie had some good numbers too...

Not sure I understand how I could score well over 50% agreement with many Dems and still slot the highest with an extreme Right position....but I guess that is because my answers vary so much depending on the issues.

Vitalogensia · June 2015

Yeah, I'm not sure how accurate these type of quizzes are, but I think they're helpful guides. Good point on "focus on the stances people have and not their personalities," as I think the problem with politics is people tend to vote for the person and not their stances. I liked this quiz as it gives me an idea of who to listen to, study, research more.

Asterisk on the Street · July 2015

Elizabeth Warren Won't Rule Out Campaigning for Bernie Sanders
The Massachusetts senator says it's "too early to say."

Will Warren support the new favorite son of the left and hit the campaign trail for him? "Too early to say," she told the Boston Herald on Monday. Warren has so far refrained from endorsing any Democratic presidential candidate, but she sure sounded enthusiastic about Bernie when speaking with the Herald. "These are people who care about these issues, and that’s who Bernie’s reaching," she told the paper. "I love what Bernie is talking about. I think all the presidential candidates should be out talking about the big issues."

motherjones.com/politics/2015/06/elizabeth-warren-endorse-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton

CH156378 · July 2015

Iowa

josevolution · July 2015

Bernie is drawing huge crowds his gaining momentum

CH156378 · July 2015

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7709966

callen · July 2015

Warren VP?

MayDay10 · July 2015

Im excited for this guy. Could bring me to vote Democrat for the 1st time in awhile.... Just like Ron Paul would have had me vote R for like the 1st time ever. Sanders actually brings ideas on how to improve this country.

I expect him to get drowned out though when push comes to shove unfortunately.

PJ_Soul · July 2015

This is who I would vote for if I were American. Unless he really goes off the rails somehow, it would be a pretty easy choice for me. I really hope you're wrong about him being drowned out MayDay, but you're probably right. I don't feel like Americans are currently that open to change, no matter how positive it could be.

ldent42 · July 2015

PJ_Soul said:
This is who I would vote for if I were American. Unless he really goes off the rails somehow, it would be a pretty easy choice for me. I really hope you're wrong about him being drowned out MayDay, but you're probably right. I don't feel like Americans are currently that open to change, no matter how positive it could be.

I think a significant part of the problem is that a lot of the people who would genuinely get behind this guy can't vote or just don't because they are disillusioned/disaffected and gave up a long time ago - or just can't get out of work/life to stand in line for a million years to vote. a majority of Americans are not going to know who Bernie Sanders is. That DOES NOT mean that he has zero chance though, because a majority of Americans don't vote.

PJ_Soul · July 2015

ldent42 said:

PJ_Soul said:
This is who I would vote for if I were American. Unless he really goes off the rails somehow, it would be a pretty easy choice for me. I really hope you're wrong about him being drowned out MayDay, but you're probably right. I don't feel like Americans are currently that open to change, no matter how positive it could be.
I think a significant part of the problem is that a lot of the people who would genuinely get behind this guy can't vote or just don't because they are disillusioned/disaffected and gave up a long time ago - or just can't get out of work/life to stand in line for a million years to vote. a majority of Americans are not going to know who Bernie Sanders is. That DOES NOT mean that he has zero chance though, because a majority of Americans don't vote.

It is a legal obligation of employers to allow their employees the time they need to vote. That includes the time it takes to line up and wait. So work should never be an excuse not to vote. As for life getting in the way.... that should only be a problem if people act as though there is no warning of an election. As it is, people could start planning to make the time to vote this very day. They have 1 year and 4 months to clear their schedule! So again, being too busy is a bad excuse IMO.
But of course you are absolutely right about voter apathy, and the democrats/left voters are way worse about this than republicans/right voters are. I don't really know why. I've got some ideas, but they are all incredibly unscientific and opinionated, lol..... I've got an idea though. Pearl Jam needs to have another cross-country tour to encourage people to get out to the polls.

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