People Who Say Pets "are like my children"
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I was thinking of which forum, but chose amt as i figured this would stir debate.JimmyV said:More of an AET topic than an AMT one, no? (Not meaning to be dickish with that, just making the observation.)
I refer to my dog as my son all the time. Do I mean it literally? I don't know. Maybe, in a way. Definitely he is a big part of my family and something that I love very much. He is a rescue and was a little less than a year old when I got him. That was almost five years ago, and I don't entirely remember what life was like before him. Bringing him home was easily the best decision I have ever made. And my girlfriend did find a Mother's Day card next to the coffee pot yesterday despite there being no human children around.
Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Winner winner chicken dinner.Gern Blansten said:maybe some things people say aren't meant to be dissected and taken literally....
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Ok here is both my PERSONAL and PROFESSIONAL stance in this:
Personal: fuck People.. animals are WAAAAAAAY more valuable to me. Why? Because they don't lie, cheat, stab you in the back for their own benefit, they forgive you regardless of the action- even when those actions are caustic to the animal or its survival, they love you unconditionally, and they accept you as you are, faults and all. There was only ONE human on the planet that ever accomplished this, and none of you think he existed.. So yeah if it came to saving an animal
Over a human, I'll save the animal, HANDS DOWN EVERY TIME, over the human, because according to those statutes, the animal actually deserves to be allowed to live, and the human has earned its demise. ( I told you.. Learning to
Love people is the hardest thing forme to grasp, because humans are POS from birth..myself included).
Professional: a dog is NOT a human.. It never will be. They think and process information much much differently than we ever could. They are very simplistic, and don't mull over stupid shit like we do. Every single decision a dog makes is based on just three things.. Instinct, Experience, and Survival. Period. They are no where near as complex or emotionally involved in their world's as we are in ours. Just one more reason to choose a dog over a person.. To me..
As for kids, I think in their innocence, that they are on the same level as a dog. However once they start acting human., fuck them.
Sorry but I have never had a human prove their value is greater than a dog.. Simple as that..0 -
Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..0
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Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...0 -
There's some shitty human beings out there... no question; however, the majority are pretty awesome. You might want to give us another chance.whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
I mean... I'm sure you've come across some awful dogs before (if you've been around many). You know- the type that bite or bark for no reason all day long? You don't consider these dogs better than people do you?
"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Basically your posts here have insulted the entire lot of us, so with that in mind.....whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
No, you are responsible for your own reactions and feelings, not the rest of the world. Take some ownership and stop blaming the entire race for your failure at relationships.
You would save a dog over a human? That says enough for me folks. Jesus fucking christ.
Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
No I am able to fix those issues by correcting what is wrong. That's unbalance.. Caused by anything from humans treating themThirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's some shitty human beings out there... no question; however, the majority are pretty awesome. You might want to give us another chance.whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
I mean... I'm sure you've come across some awful dogs before (if you've been around many). You know- the type that bite or bark for no reason all day long? You don't consider these dogs better than people do you?
Like kids, which is mentally detrimental to them, to insecurity that goes unresolved for any length of time. Dogs live in the moment, period, and while they recall incidents that have left an impression, it really takes quite a traumatic event to
Make that impression. Humans usually make a much bigger deal out of it than the dog EVER will. And since dogs communicate almost strictly using body language and energy, they feel our distress, and react to it. If you can get the person to quit fucking reacting to stupid things, suddenly the dog reverts back to its normal state, and things begin to smooth out.. As for giving humans a chance.. I have ABSOLUTELY no reason to, other than my beliefs. And I am
Trying.. But to be honest, there aren't many humans that can be trusted.. At all.. Very very very few of them. However, in my belief we are to follow Jesus' example of love, patience and kindness. This is very hard for me, because there is no human on the planet that deserves that, not even me! ESPECIALLY not me!! But I force myself everyday to make that effort.. But when you have never found any human worth trusting, that becomes very difficult. So I look to my pets as an example by which to model those principles after.. Because they just do these things naturally. I often wonder if God didn't give them to us so we could see how we are supposed to act towards one another.. They sure are better at following the principles of the Bible than any human I've ever met.0 -
I guess you got your debate stirred with this thread as you intended.HughFreakingDillon said:
Basically your posts here have insulted the entire lot of us, so with that in mind.....whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
No, you are responsible for your own reactions and feelings, not the rest of the world. Take some ownership and stop blaming the entire race for your failure at relationships.
You would save a dog over a human? That says enough for me folks. Jesus fucking christ.
Nice.0 -
I was not going to post here but unless I'm not counted as part of "the lot of us", I was not offended in the least by her post.HughFreakingDillon said:
Basically your posts here have insulted the entire lot of us, so with that in mind.....whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
No, you are responsible for your own reactions and feelings, not the rest of the world. Take some ownership and stop blaming the entire race for your failure at relationships.
You would save a dog over a human? That says enough for me folks. Jesus fucking christ.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I did own it. And yes humans are the only reason I dislike humans.. Period. If humans could be a better species?? Maybe I'd feel differently.. But we aren't, we are the most brutal, destructive, evil, and screwed up species on the planet. You CANNOT deny that. And yes ANY animal deserves to live more than any of us..0
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It's not like a dog caused me to
Hate humans. HUMANS caused me to hate humans. Humans cannot be trusted, they will fuck you over in a heartbeat to benefit themselves, often times without remorse, and they are the only species that kills its own kind for any other reason than territory, survival, or necessity. You don't see Serial Killer cats, or dogs, or snakes.. Shit... on that note, not even Apex predators kill serially.. Only humans.. Now.. Why should I save one???0 -
Nope. Not ALL humans. But in the general count, animals are far greater creatures than humans.brianlux said:
I was not going to post here but unless I'm not counted as part of "the lot of us", I was not offended in the least by her post.HughFreakingDillon said:
Basically your posts here have insulted the entire lot of us, so with that in mind.....whispering hands said:
Pretty sad... But humans caused my feelingThirty Bills Unpaid said:
Wow.whispering hands said:Know.. This is my personal position on this.. And like I said.. Never met a human I preferred over a dog.. Dogs are great.. Human's not so much.. So I totally get where that guy was coming from..
This way.. Which is even more sad...
No, you are responsible for your own reactions and feelings, not the rest of the world. Take some ownership and stop blaming the entire race for your failure at relationships.
You would save a dog over a human? That says enough for me folks. Jesus fucking christ.0 -
I worked with a Doctorate professor for a number of years in a counseling training program. She was amazing. She helped more people than anyone I've ever know. She was dedicated to helping people beyond measure. She confided to a group in one of our classes once that in some ways she considered herself a misanthrope (noun: misanthrope; a person who dislikes humankind). That statement neither surprised nor offended me in the least. I totally understood it."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Note to self - never stay with WH and an animal with even the slightest possibility of a housefire. Just sayin' :peace:
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I guess I am what could be considered a misanthrope, then. But all the cruelty, insanity, and uncalled for devastation I have experienced first hand, has made it very very difficult to choose a person over an animal. No animal has ever tried to kill me, tortured me, abused me, lied to me, beaten me nearly to death, raped me, ran me over with a car on purpose, or lit my clothes on fire while still IN them!! Nope...that and many, many, MANY other instances were all performed by humans. HUMANS. People. Homo Sapiens.. As for failed relationships, those stemmed from the inability to establish trust due to experience. Without trust there IS no relationship. And while I know that now, it doesn't make changing it any easier. No more easier than the fact that humans are the reason I can't trust humans. Again... At least I'm working on trying to change this, but humans don't make it very easy.. AT all. Just being honest.0
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Lmao! Honest the dog being a dog would save you! Which would probably be why I'd have to save the dog, cause dogs are just selfless like that. :-)hedonist said:Note to self - never stay with WH and an animal with even the slightest possibility of a housefire. Just sayin' :peace:
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Love it. Honesty.whispering hands said:It's not like a dog caused me to
Hate humans. HUMANS caused me to hate humans. Humans cannot be trusted, they will fuck you over in a heartbeat to benefit themselves, often times without remorse, and they are the only species that kills its own kind for any other reason than territory, survival, or necessity. You don't see Serial Killer cats, or dogs, or snakes.. Shit... on that note, not even Apex predators kill serially.. Only humans.. Now.. Why should I save one???
Humans do suck in general. Mean selfish vindictive insecure and destructive.
Also all babies aren't cute and likely yours is ugly. "breathtaking".
Find it utterly hilarious that we all think we are special. You're not special and your children aren't special. Just another one in a billion. I do think parents justify how wonderful their kids are just to keep sane.
I always have more pity for homeless dogs than homeless humans.
Not directed at OP but humans in general.
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Nothing worse than a homeless person with a dog.callen said:r
whispering hands said:It's not like a dog caused me to
Hate humans. HUMANS caused me to hate humans. Humans cannot be trusted, they will fuck you over in a heartbeat to benefit themselves, often times without remorse, and they are the only species that kills its own kind for any other reason than territory, survival, or necessity. You don't see Serial Killer cats, or dogs, or snakes.. Shit... on that note, not even Apex predators kill serially.. Only humans.. Now.. Why should I save one???
I always have more pity for homeless dogs than homeless humans.
Love this topic and belongs on train.
Save the dog.
Anyone in Victoria/Vancouver can relate to this.
Get off your ass and stop pretending to garner sympathy because you have a dog beside you.
Homelessness is a real issue.
Don't use a dog to amplify your plight.
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