To (say) Thug or to not (say) Thug, that is my ?

suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QNHJrS9uSw8

    obama is helping to create nation wide kaos, the guy is a idiot.

    Godfather.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QNHJrS9uSw8

    obama is helping to create nation wide kaos, the guy is a idiot.

    Godfather.

    Ludicrous. We dont have nationwide chaos, and if we did it surely wouldn't be Obama's fault.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    edited April 2015
    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    hmmm...I've seen and heard thug applied to Caucasians, African-Americans, and Asians...

    Google image search of "white thugs" led me here:

    http://www.findfreegraphics.com/image-151/thugs.htm

    and asian thugs here:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10060570/Oxford-grooming-gang-We-will-regret-ignoring-Asian-thugs-who-target-white-girls.html


    Post edited by inmytree on
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QNHJrS9uSw8

    obama is helping to create nation wide kaos, the guy is a idiot.

    Godfather.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    thug was used in 70's(and before that) to discribe truble makers and never was used bassed on color, black kids started using the term on t shirts, rap music etc. so now I have to be careful not to use the word thug in mixed company ?...so as not to offend the group that gave rebirth to the term "thug" .....bullshit !

    Godfather.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    hmmm...I've seen and heard thug applied to Caucasians, African-Americans, and Asians...

    Google image search of "white thugs" led me here:

    http://www.findfreegraphics.com/image-151/thugs.htm




    That link isn't anything. We aren't talking about how an idiot self-identifies, the question is how does the media and the average person identify a person exhibiting bad behavior.
    You say you have seen it, I certainly haven't.
    I have never seen any evidence.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    hmmm...I've seen and heard thug applied to Caucasians, African-Americans, and Asians...

    Google image search of "white thugs" led me here:

    http://www.findfreegraphics.com/image-151/thugs.htm




    That link isn't anything. We aren't talking about how an idiot self-identifies, the question is how does the media and the average person identify a person exhibiting bad behavior.
    You say you have seen it, I certainly haven't.
    I have never seen any evidence.
    I guess if you've never seen it...it never happened...
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    thug was used in 70's(and before that) to discribe truble makers and never was used bassed on color, black kids started using the term on t shirts, rap music etc. so now I have to be careful not to use the word thug in mixed company ?...so as not to offend the group that gave rebirth to the term "thug" .....bullshit !

    Godfather.

    fuck fuck fuck...

    I agree with Godfather...

    it's such a weird feeling.... :anguished:
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    thug was used in 70's(and before that) to discribe truble makers and never was used bassed on color, black kids started using the term on t shirts, rap music etc. so now I have to be careful not to use the word thug in mixed company ?...so as not to offend the group that gave rebirth to the term "thug" .....bullshit !

    Godfather.

    fuck fuck fuck...

    I agree with Godfather...

    it's such a weird feeling.... :anguished:
    ohhhh that's o.k, it will go away soon. ahahhahhahahha

    Godfather.

  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Thug is not a racial term. If you want to associate it with race, that's your problem. Pretty soon criminal will be the next word people will be offended by.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I'm sure everyone knows how I feel about it, given all the past threads. Nothing wrong with the word, it's how you use it and in what context. Sort of similar to the way we use "gay". Words evolve and over time the use of them changes. I almost never here it used to describe white males, almost always young black males.
  • Dirtie_Frank
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    i actually had the same thought myself. I have no idea why some are now trying to make it racist. i mean how are you to describe those young gang members who were looting and rioting? maybe we should have called them those young preppy kids.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Blame Tupac-Thug Life
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,956
    rr165892 said:

    Blame Tupac-Thug Life

    and how'd that end up?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I agree with dignin that thug isn't necessarily a racist word, and it depends on context. I personally use the word regularly, and more often than not to describe white guys, because the thugs I generally see are white. Thuggee or Thug has been around since the 1300s and they were an Indian cult of robbers and murderers. It is a word that has a lot of history. It is only recently that the hip hop, gangsta crowd co-opted it for themselves. If they want to be known as thugs, that's fine with me, but they don't get to dictate how I use it. And neither do sensitive, liberal whites who automatically assume it is a racist term. It isn't. It can be when used that way, but the word itself isn't racist.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    hmmm...I've seen and heard thug applied to Caucasians, African-Americans, and Asians...

    Google image search of "white thugs" led me here:

    http://www.findfreegraphics.com/image-151/thugs.htm




    That link isn't anything. We aren't talking about how an idiot self-identifies, the question is how does the media and the average person identify a person exhibiting bad behavior.
    You say you have seen it, I certainly haven't.
    I have never seen any evidence.
    I guess if you've never seen it...it never happened...
    Well I guess if you say you have, it must be true.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    pjhawks said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    i actually had the same thought myself. I have no idea why some are now trying to make it racist. i mean how are you to describe those young gang members who were looting and rioting? maybe we should have called them those young preppy kids.
    Then why isn't that term thrown around when white people riot and loot?

    I'm waiting for someone to provide evidence of major news sources calling white criminals thugs.
    We have had threads on this very board in which white people were making trouble and thug never came up.
    I am not disputing that these kids are thugs, but when a word is only used for a particular race, it is being used in a racist way.
    Just like how nobody calls James Holmes a terrorist but the Ft. Hood shooter surely gets called that... I'm sure it has nothing to do with skin color or faith. Right.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    rgambs said:

    inmytree said:

    suddenly the word "thug" is being placed in the same vein as the n-word...when did this happen and why...?

    just wondering as I was at my 2nd job last night and one of my coworkers was super upset that Obamz used the word "thug"....and the TVee peoples on CNN were debating it...so, what gives...?

    The word itself is not a problem, the problem is that you pretty much NEVER see the word applied to a white person. Not at sports riots, not in violent crimes, not anywhere.
    Someone prove me wrong, show me some examples of white "thugs".
    hmmm...I've seen and heard thug applied to Caucasians, African-Americans, and Asians...

    Google image search of "white thugs" led me here:

    http://www.findfreegraphics.com/image-151/thugs.htm




    That link isn't anything. We aren't talking about how an idiot self-identifies, the question is how does the media and the average person identify a person exhibiting bad behavior.
    You say you have seen it, I certainly haven't.
    I have never seen any evidence.
    I guess if you've never seen it...it never happened...
    Well I guess if you say you have, it must be true.
    exactly...