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I'm in the Drowned & Hugh camp on this one. Believe (or don't) whatever works for you - it's your business, your choice.
But...it's the "you poor people" attitude that I can't get behind. It may continue discussion, but not so sure if constructively.0 -
and it's this very attitude which creates a backlash against their belief system, and they wonder why their can sometimes be such a negative reaction to their preaching. it's really easy to figure out.hedonist said:I'm in the Drowned & Hugh camp on this one. Believe (or don't) whatever works for you - it's your business, your choice.
But...it's the "you poor people" attitude that I can't get behind. It may continue discussion, but not so sure if constructively.
I'm with you. Believe what you want. But keep it to yourself/your group. My brother learned this lesson hard one day. My mom believes.....yet anytime she'd say "my god!", my brother would whisper "mine too!". One day she had enough and told him to shove it.
when a group of people are constantly patronizing and being condescending towards you, you begin to form a negative prejudice against that group, no matter who belongs to it. and they continue to not GET IT.
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and just so we're clear,
"no one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings."By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
But god chose USA so
Won't be first time god wrecked the planet. Flood.HughFreakingDillon said:does no one else find it inherently fucked up that people who believe in the second coming that they are HOPING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET AND OUR ENTIRE SPECIES??? that is completely fucked up and narcisisstic to me.
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I believe in prayer,I've seen something that enforces that but my statement to her was about her faith not healing.HughFreakingDillon said:
do you believe a broken leg can be healed by human prayer?Godfather. said:
Faith, some have it some do not.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
I am glad to see you do.
Godfather.
and I am not hoping for the total disturction of the world, I personally don't know anybody that is..not even the Christians I know wish that.
and as your sig. says "be kind" right ? not a bad idea for all of us.
Godfather.
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Isn't that because Christians know that when they die they go to a better place. So my thought was always that Christians embrace death. But I always felt that it was a crutch that people used because they fear death more than anything. They feel the need to think there is something else out there after we die.callen said:But god chose USA so
Won't be first time god wrecked the planet. Flood.HughFreakingDillon said:does no one else find it inherently fucked up that people who believe in the second coming that they are HOPING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET AND OUR ENTIRE SPECIES??? that is completely fucked up and narcisisstic to me.
That is not intended to be a personal shot at any one person. It is my take on religion based on my personal experience and contact with "believers."0 -
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don't want to answer the question, then?Godfather. said:
I believe in prayer,I've seen something that enforces that but my statement to her was about her faith not healing.HughFreakingDillon said:
do you believe a broken leg can be healed by human prayer?Godfather. said:
Faith, some have it some do not.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
I am glad to see you do.
Godfather.
and I am not hoping for the total disturction of the world, I personally don't know anybody that is..not even the Christians I know wish that.
and as your sig. says "be kind" right ? not a bad idea for all of us.
Godfather.
and whispering basically stated outright that is looking forward to the second coming. this occurs during the rapture/apocalypse, right?
bachmann is a christian. and she is "thanking" obama for bringing the end times nearer, as she puts it. there was that guy who had a radio show who bilked millions from other christians who were marking the rapture on their calendar like it was a family vacation.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Maybe after that football field sized floating object that paid a visit to PJsoul was done it flew over the horizon and visited the encampment that whispering was at and it put everybody in a trance.HughFreakingDillon said:
do you believe a broken leg can be healed by human prayer?Godfather. said:
Faith, some have it some do not.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
I am glad to see you do.
Godfather.
While they were in a trance the leg was fixed and when everyone woke up it was miracle time!
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I would go to church more often if this guy was my local preacher ...
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I never said I healed it. I said I prayed, the next day that kid was THERE, running and playing like the others. And I was not meaning to sound condescending. It is just something you have to experience in s personal aspect. I can't MAKE ANYONE BELIEVE. But I can live myHughFreakingDillon said:
I have to say, I agree with everything Drowned said.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
the notion that you "feel sorry for" people who don't believe as you do is condescending at best, not to mention against everything Jesus is said to have stood for.
and you healed a broken leg with your prayers? um.....I'll leave that one alone.
Life as honest, and loving and wisely as I am humanly able. It is not easy. I fuck it up allllll the time.... Trust me, I fail more often than I get it right.. But that's the thing. You don't have to be perfect to believe in God. It just is what it is, you choose to believe or not. I guess I'm not the best representative here.. But I just keep getting up and trying again. Thanks for at least putting up with me.:-)0 -
now you're talking!PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Maybe after that football field sized floating object that paid a visit to PJsoul was done it flew over the horizon and visited the encampment that whispering was at and it put everybody in a trance.HughFreakingDillon said:
do you believe a broken leg can be healed by human prayer?Godfather. said:
Faith, some have it some do not.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
I am glad to see you do.
Godfather.
While they were in a trance the leg was fixed and when everyone woke up it was miracle time!
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WTF??? LMAO!!!Jason P said:I would go to church more often if this guy was my local preacher ...
"here I stand, wielding the suit jacket of PENNANCE!! come before me, so thou can be sacrificed to the will of the thread!!!"
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Oh lordy, I'll bet these folks are the type who spout gibberish on purpose and then claim the spirit took them and spoke through them. Look at the way they take a dive after getting hit...shameful, even worse than futbol!HughFreakingDillon said:
WTF??? LMAO!!!Jason P said:I would go to church more often if this guy was my local preacher ...
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Lol, they should all get yellow cards for simulation.rgambs said:
Oh lordy, I'll bet these folks are the type who spout gibberish on purpose and then claim the spirit took them and spoke through them. Look at the way they take a dive after getting hit...shameful, even worse than futbol!HughFreakingDillon said:
WTF??? LMAO!!!Jason P said:I would go to church more often if this guy was my local preacher ...
"here I stand, wielding the suit jacket of PENNANCE!! come before me, so thou can be sacrificed to the will of the thread!!!"
Jebus, those people are wacky."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
Fuck that Jeff, straight reds for all of them.jeffbr said:
Lol, they should all get yellow cards for simulation.rgambs said:
Oh lordy, I'll bet these folks are the type who spout gibberish on purpose and then claim the spirit took them and spoke through them. Look at the way they take a dive after getting hit...shameful, even worse than futbol!HughFreakingDillon said:
WTF??? LMAO!!!Jason P said:I would go to church more often if this guy was my local preacher ...
"here I stand, wielding the suit jacket of PENNANCE!! come before me, so thou can be sacrificed to the will of the thread!!!"
Jebus, those people are wacky.0 -
I shouldn't laugh., cause there are some pretty crazy people out there saying they're Christians, or that they have the power to heal, blah blah blah.. ( yeah I know, I should never have expected you guys to understand what happened that summer in Haiti)and It makes Christians that are practicing the truth behind the faith ;which is,that we are supposed to live our lives as Jesus lived His.., look really, really bad!!
But that video of the guy smacking the shit outta people with his coat, about had me falling out my chair laughing! I can totally see why you guys think we're whacko! ( I will be showi g this to my friend at Church as we were JUST talking about this sort of image that people have of us as Christians).. Oh that was funny.. I swear.. Some people gotta go and fuck
It all up for the rest of us! Besides.. I promise I am
Not a whacko.. Just a nut..
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Thank you, Hugh. You said this so much for succinctly and to the point than I did with my rambling. I'm not sure ALL people who believe in the second coming hope for the planet's destruction but it's a REALLY common mind set.HughFreakingDillon said:does no one else find it inherently fucked up that people who believe in the second coming that they are HOPING FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET AND OUR ENTIRE SPECIES??? that is completely fucked up and narcisisstic to me.
As for "The End is Near"... ha! That phrase has been used so long and so erroneously that it has become self descriptively humorous. Quite a few cartoonists have done well with it.
The end of something is happening everyday. Which species will it be today? The end of ours may come soon too. But it's interesting that we hear so much about how we are doomed rather than what we can do to fix things so that we can carry on for quite a lot more time.
The way I see it, we humans have large enough brains to be able to figure out how to carry on for quite a while. If we really tried to, we could do that. I'm fairly certain of that. But if we don't use our brains and resolve the mess we've made then maybe we deserve to do ourselves in. But really? What a waste. Wouldn't it make more sense to start resolving as many of the problems as possible?
And I'd bet ten buck Hugh could have said all that in about 1/4 of the words.
Take it, Hugh.
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if I do what then ? I get into a debate with you and the rest of the non belivers ? I'm not asking you or anybody to change your view so why is so important to and some others to make jokes about a believers faith ? I am not a perfect Christian and I don't stand still in the storm ...so to speak.HughFreakingDillon said:
don't want to answer the question, then?Godfather. said:
I believe in prayer,I've seen something that enforces that but my statement to her was about her faith not healing.HughFreakingDillon said:
do you believe a broken leg can be healed by human prayer?Godfather. said:
Faith, some have it some do not.whispering hands said:I wish I could explain how simple it is.. And as for Jesus existing.. Yes, historically he DID exist.. You need to examine that history.. There IS historical proof of acounts that took place in the Bible.
As for fact based minds.. I feel
Bad for those types.. Because you have no ability to grasp alternate aspects of our world. As a Christian we call this outside force if you will God. I have no
Idea what the atheists refer to it as.. Or if you even acknowledge that there IS something beyond our mortal 'natural' comprehension, that is out there. Science only covers so much. I have seen people healed through my prayers. And I'm not a charlatan preacher seeding 'lame' folks into my audience, yet when I was 13, I prayed over a child with a broken leg, and the very next day, saw that same child RUN into our encampment yelling in Creole that he woke up and he could walk.. He hobbled home on crutches, leg still broken, and it was OBVIOUSLY broken... But tan back to school the next day.. That kid was in our camp for the rest of the summer, begging us to teach him about God do he could share with his friends.. It was the ONLY time I ever saw anything like that other than TV evangelists, or sponsored productions. But after that.. Even when I walked away from my faith.. I still KNEW there was a God. So no one can sway my belief.. I'be SEEN MIRACLES.. And I know. But how sad that people can't wrap
Their heads around something as simple as.. Believe..
I am glad to see you do.
Godfather.
and I am not hoping for the total disturction of the world, I personally don't know anybody that is..not even the Christians I know wish that.
and as your sig. says "be kind" right ? not a bad idea for all of us.
Godfather.
and whispering basically stated outright that is looking forward to the second coming. this occurs during the rapture/apocalypse, right?
bachmann is a christian. and she is "thanking" obama for bringing the end times nearer, as she puts it. there was that guy who had a radio show who bilked millions from other christians who were marking the rapture on their calendar like it was a family vacation.
if you have issues about Christ and need some kind of guidance I hope you find it but I really don't need to explain anything about my faith to espically you as you were once a beliver.
Godfather.
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