Do Aliens Exist?

PJ_Soul said:

rr165892 said:

PjSoul,I thought you we're going to keep it a secret?

Not a secret (i posted the whole.story somewhere 2 years ago). I just wasn't going to post here about it because of the reaction I get from some people.... I changed my mind because there was some point I wanted to make. I might wish in hadn't now, lol.
I notice Last-12-Exit disappeared as soon as I suggested maybe this thing affected our brains somehow. I wonder if that's because he wants to call me crazy or ridiculous but is resisting through silence?

PJ_Soul said:

rr165892 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

The only proof for all you people is if Alien knock your door someday or CNN's breaking news..you talk about military..in these days we living, ok, maybe..but 100 or 200 or 1000 years ago???..and none of you still answer my questions..

That is quite simply not true, not for all of us, anyway. I would be more inclined to believe something if I hear a first person account from someone, as pjsoul did. All of your "proof" or "evidence" is really nothing of the kind, so far. Saying the pyramids are proof to me is the same as a christian telling me the mere existence of the universe is proof of a god. Can I prove aliens didn't build them? Nope. But that doesn't mean they did. There are many mysteries of the world around us...all it proves is our inability to understand them.

And what questions of your are we not answering? All I see is someone making a lot of fantastical claims bit is unwilling to explain where this "knowledge" comes from. You claimed to know that some alien societies commit acts of war. Please explain to me how you came to this conclusion. And don't tell me that the proof is in videos on youtube.

Hugh, I find it hard to believe that a first person account telling you a story that they saw something unexplainable would incline you to believe.

I just might as well tell you that I saw an alien last week, he was green and tall and scary. Oh and you are the first person I told. Do you believe me?

A first person account telling a story is in no way proof of anything.
It is confusing that you demand proof before believing and on the same token say you are more inclined to believe a first person account of something.

I too demand proof for anything, especially someone saying they saw and alien, ufo, bigfoot etc.

Its called considering the source. Where did I say that a first person account is proof? All i said was I believe pjsoul when she said she saw a craft and had a strange experience. Nowhere did I say that I believe she saw aliens. To my recollection, she never made that claim either. Maybe she believes it was extraterrestrials, and that's fine. The jury is still out for me on what that was. I am not going to sit here and claim that she is lying, cause I dont believe that to be true.

I understand what considering the source is. From anyone reading these forums they don't know you or pjsoul from adam. So to say you believe what was told to you by this random person on the internet makes a party of two that profess to believe that a craft was seen and a strange experience happened.

I never said that aliens were seen in this story, I used that as my example. I saw a green alien last week, it was scary. Do you believe me? If you don't why not? It certainly can't be the source. I am just a random guy telling you I saw an alien. No different than a random person telling you they saw a strange craft and felt a strange experience.

I am not saying this person is a liar but I most certainly do not believe what they are saying is true.

I've known of PJs experience for some time.Her accounts have never waivered ,the details have never changed.Shes a straight forward chick.

I like to think I am a fine judge of character and PJsoul has always posted with integrity.
Why wouldn't you believe her? She saw something ,That's for damn sure.

Look, I don't actually expect everyone or even anyone to believe me On the contrary. I expect most people not to believe me.

But i will mention that I do hope that PJfanwillneverleave1 is also an Atheist, or else your attitude about my story would be pretty hypocritical.

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Look, I don't actually expect everyone or even anyone to believe me On the contrary. I expect most people not to believe me.

But i will mention that I do hope that PJfanwillneverleave1 is also an Atheist, or else your attitude about my story would be pretty hypocritical.

I am one of those that don't believe you.

I prefer the term "Without Religion" to describe me. Just like people who believe in God I don't believe them either. That doesn't make religious people liars but the story they tell I don't believe.

Clearly! But you also seem to be saying that you don't believe I saw a huge thing go right over my head.
I saw the texture of the surface of that thing - I can describe exactly what it looked like and sounded like and how it moved and the route it took in detail. I'm not making up what I saw. I understand you not believing that what I saw was an alien craft, but I'm not sure I get how you aren't believing that I saw something.

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Look, I don't actually expect everyone or even anyone to believe me On the contrary. I expect most people not to believe me.

But i will mention that I do hope that PJfanwillneverleave1 is also an Atheist, or else your attitude about my story would be pretty hypocritical.

I am one of those that don't believe you.

I prefer the term "Without Religion" to describe me. Just like people who believe in God I don't believe them either. That doesn't make religious people liars but the story they tell I don't believe.

Clearly! But you also seem to be saying that you don't believe I saw a huge thing go right over my head.
I saw the texture of the surface of that thing - I can describe exactly what it looked like and sounded like and how it moved and the route it took in detail. I'm not making up what I saw. I understand you not believing that what I saw was an alien craft, but I'm not sure I get how you aren't believing that I saw something.

There is no way in gods great earth that something the size of a football field flew around the sky with no other witnesses (save the one you were with) reporting it.
No news article, no other mention of this anywhere?

Have you told anyone else personally about this? and I mean personally not via message board or text.

A person making a post who is not known to hundreds of thousands of people on this forum claiming this flying object thing happened to them and not get questioned once is a little odd.

If I went out right now and told one of my friends your tale and that I believe it because everyone else on the thread believes it they would tell me to lay off the sauce.

If someone I knew started making claims about a football field sized object that once flew above their head I would question them, and that is to someone I know.

A person who I don't know claiming such things on a message board in absolute anonymity deserves even more scrutiny.

Me not believing that you saw this should not be so unbelievable to you. It is an extraordinary factual claim on your part.

What do you mean have i told anyone personally? Like family and friends? Yes, of course (what are you suggesting with thst question?). All of my family and friends know about it. Most do not believe it was aliens either, but none of them think I'm lying about what I saw.

I don't think for a second that most people on these boards believe I saw an alien spaceship. But i think anyone who knows me here knows I am not just making up some story out of thin air.... Anyway, that's okay man, lol. It's not like I think you are under any obligation to believe a single word I say!