Record Store Day Mystery Vinyl
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You nailed it. Pretty hilarious. First world problems. I had a choice between RSD and this Mystery Vinyl like everybody else. Seeing as I knew demand would be crazy and would probably get shut out, I opted for RSD. Am I angry at PJ for not letting me do both? Uh, no.PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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I was pretty pissed off when I thought the glitches shut me out. I was then estatic when I caught the second wave. I really can see both sides of it. It was a crapshoot to begin with. The Ten Club could have been better prepared but at the same time it's just stuff. It is another reason they should just release this stuff again. They are not meeting the demand.0
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They don't owe anyone anything -- The problem lies in the fact that once people got this fake order confirmation they were UNABLE to keep trying to get one. Even when second lot went up for grabs people that had been trying for 40 minutes nonstop were essentially blocked from getting one because they were already logged as getting the limit. If you dont see that as wrong that's up to you - I personally think its bullshit and and some sort of apology/ good gesture should be done for these people - I know they cant create more records but they need to do something to show they fucked up and that they actually care.PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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Yeah thats disappointing I thought I was good Because when I tried the 2nd again it said I couldn't purchase another copy. So i was sure it worked....Alpine Valley East Troy WI 1998...United Center Chicago IL1998...All State Arena Rosemont IL 2000 (anybody have a spare poster)
United Center Chicago IL 2003...Alpine Valley East Troy WI 2003...Toledo OH 2004...Marcus Amphitheater Milwaukee WI 2006
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PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 1 2011...PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 2 2011...Wrigley Field Chicago IL 2013...iWireless Center Moline IL 2014
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I really dont see what 10c could have done differently. If we all agreed to go to walmart.com and try and order the same item at the same time guess what would happen. The same thing. I say go back to random drops in the store again.Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
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As someone else said, not mad about the demand exceeding the supply. I am a bit upset that you take my order, and my money, don't give me the product ordered, and we couldn't even take a stab at the second round. How about an apology or some small token for those of us in this camp?
It's first world pains and it's not even ruining my day, but come on man. How is this still an issue with them? It's hard not to conclude they just don't care. Is what it is I suppose.0 -
So until we get shipping notice, we cant really know if our orders went throughKearnsy0
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Not that I've seen. TBH I don't think there's anything he could say that wouldn't result in a slew of pissed off responses. The demand was too high for the system to handle. Some people were lucky, most missed out. Life is not fair.JB23237 said:Has Santos chimed in?
I would kind of like some comment on why there were a bunch of people who were able to purchase it shortly after 11am est when so many people like myself were trying until 1045 when the "unavailable" message came up after I'd already put in my CC info. But no matter what comment might be made, it's not gonna make me feel any better nor is it gonna change anything.
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Didn't everyone suspect this would happen when they practically screamed that they could cancel orders for any reason? I know i wasn't the only one to mention more than once they might mean they'd take orders and then cancel them because of that specific note. They don't usually make that a major part of a sale announcement, so it was obvious that they knew orders would probably need to be cancelled IMO.doctorvik said:
They don't owe anyone anything -- The problem lies in the fact that once people got this fake order confirmation they were UNABLE to keep trying to get one. Even when second lot went up for grabs people that had been trying for 40 minutes nonstop were essentially blocked from getting one because they were already logged as getting the limit. If you dont see that as wrong that's up to you - I personally think its bullshit and and some sort of apology/ good gesture should be done for these people - I know they cant create more records but they need to do something to show they fucked up and that they actually care.PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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Had it in my cart for ten minutes, got to shipping all good. Then white screen of death and never got it. That' s what pisses me off. Like having it in hand and it being taken by somebody else. I never got to enter my payment. 10C has and always will be a piss poor run organization. If they would only take a lesson from TMR and how they run things.0
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This is the worst part, by far for me. No communication doesn't help much, but they don't need to give us that since they practically gave the we can cancel any order whenever we want schpiel. If I didn't get it, I didn't get it though...it's just a dumb record lolJB23237 said:Yeah thats disappointing I thought I was good Because when I tried the 2nd again it said I couldn't purchase another copy. So i was sure it worked....
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Im pretty sure they do that with every mystery item .... again they didnt cancel our items -- they just made us believe we had one - and then would not let us purchase another one even though they were still available.
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You're missing the point. I don't think anyone on here is irate over not getting what they wanted. People are frustrated because once again the 10 club promised a service (to provide a site that should be able to handle a simple online sale, not to guarantee you would get a limited product) and once again they failed at that task and they refuse to do or say anything to remedy their customers legitimate complaints. Defending them by patting them on the back and saying "good job guys, thanks for trying" (as many of these threads do) shouldn't be something that customers should have to do for a business that provides a paid service. The 10c isn't a grade school child working on a science project, they are a business who make money from their customers for providing them a service. When that service repeatedly fails year after year after year and nothing is ever done or said other than "oh well", then I would say that business is pretty piss poor, and the customers have a right to be upset. It's obviously a service we all want otherwise we would all cancel our memberships, but that is no excuse for the club to be so unresponsive to it's obvious problems. I'm not trying to compare buying records/tickets to surgery but would you say "nice try doc" to a doctor who botched a procedure? Would you say "thanks for trying guys" to an airline who sold you a ticket and then said "sorry we lost your order" when you arrived at the airport? You ask what 10c owes people, I'd say they owe them the service they say they will provide, not a consistent shrug of the shoulders every time their website crashes. I don't have a problem with not getting the vinyl (hell at this point I'm still not sure if I did or not). My problem is that I received a message saying "thanks for your order, you will receive a confirmation email" after apparently completing my order. When I tried to replace the order for fear that something like this could happen (gee, why would I think that), I was told that I couldn't order the item because I had already reached my limit of ordering said item. I assumed that meant I had completed a transaction. Since I was under the impression that I spent $60 with 10c, I passed on buying 2 other records at RSD. However, I still don't have a confirmation and several other people who had the same problem I had have been told by 10c "sorry, you are SOL". I'm aware mistakes happen and problems occur but that shit is stays quo around here and it never gets fixed. All that most everyone on hear is saying is that this is no way to run a business not "whaaaaaaaaa I want my vinyl".PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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Heisenberg has it all figured out in this post...good job my friendHeisenberg said:
You're missing the point. I don't think anyone on here is irate over not getting what they wanted. People are frustrated because once again the 10 club promised a service (to provide a site that should be able to handle a simple online sale, not to guarantee you would get a limited product) and once again they failed at that task and they refuse to do or say anything to remedy their customers legitimate complaints. Defending them by patting them on the back and saying "good job guys, thanks for trying" (as many of these threads do) shouldn't be something that customers should have to do for a business that provides a paid service. The 10c isn't a grade school child working on a science project, they are a business who make money from their customers for providing them a service. When that service repeatedly fails year after year after year and nothing is ever done or said other than "oh well", then I would say that business is pretty piss poor, and the customers have a right to be upset. It's obviously a service we all want otherwise we would all cancel our memberships, but that is no excuse for the club to be so unresponsive to it's obvious problems. I'm not trying to compare buying records/tickets to surgery but would you say "nice try doc" to a doctor who botched a procedure? Would you say "thanks for trying guys" to an airline who sold you a ticket and then said "sorry we lost your order" when you arrived at the airport? You ask what 10c owes people, I'd say they owe them the service they say they will provide, not a consistent shrug of the shoulders every time their website crashes. I don't have a problem with not getting the vinyl (hell at this point I'm still not sure if I did or not). My problem is that I received a message saying "thanks for your order, you will receive a confirmation email" after apparently completing my order. When I tried to replace the order for fear that something like this could happen (gee, why would I think that), I was told that I couldn't order the item because I had already reached my limit of ordering said item. I assumed that meant I had completed a transaction. Since I was under the impression that I spent $60 with 10c, I passed on buying 2 other records at RSD. However, I still don't have a confirmation and several other people who had the same problem I had have been told by 10c "sorry, you are SOL". I'm aware mistakes happen and problems occur but that shit is stays quo around here and it never gets fixed. All that most everyone on hear is saying is that this is no way to run a business not "whaaaaaaaaa I want my vinyl".PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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What he said.Heisenberg said:
You're missing the point. I don't think anyone on here is irate over not getting what they wanted. People are frustrated because once again the 10 club promised a service (to provide a site that should be able to handle a simple online sale, not to guarantee you would get a limited product) and once again they failed at that task and they refuse to do or say anything to remedy their customers legitimate complaints. Defending them by patting them on the back and saying "good job guys, thanks for trying" (as many of these threads do) shouldn't be something that customers should have to do for a business that provides a paid service. The 10c isn't a grade school child working on a science project, they are a business who make money from their customers for providing them a service. When that service repeatedly fails year after year after year and nothing is ever done or said other than "oh well", then I would say that business is pretty piss poor, and the customers have a right to be upset. It's obviously a service we all want otherwise we would all cancel our memberships, but that is no excuse for the club to be so unresponsive to it's obvious problems. I'm not trying to compare buying records/tickets to surgery but would you say "nice try doc" to a doctor who botched a procedure? Would you say "thanks for trying guys" to an airline who sold you a ticket and then said "sorry we lost your order" when you arrived at the airport? You ask what 10c owes people, I'd say they owe them the service they say they will provide, not a consistent shrug of the shoulders every time their website crashes. I don't have a problem with not getting the vinyl (hell at this point I'm still not sure if I did or not). My problem is that I received a message saying "thanks for your order, you will receive a confirmation email" after apparently completing my order. When I tried to replace the order for fear that something like this could happen (gee, why would I think that), I was told that I couldn't order the item because I had already reached my limit of ordering said item. I assumed that meant I had completed a transaction. Since I was under the impression that I spent $60 with 10c, I passed on buying 2 other records at RSD. However, I still don't have a confirmation and several other people who had the same problem I had have been told by 10c "sorry, you are SOL". I'm aware mistakes happen and problems occur but that shit is stays quo around here and it never gets fixed. All that most everyone on hear is saying is that this is no way to run a business not "whaaaaaaaaa I want my vinyl".PJ_Soul said:
What are you expecting from them?hrd2imgn said:the biggest suck of it all is I did NOT go support my local store to try for this, now I and many others, end up with nothing but wasted time. I hope the TC does everyone right, I really do
We all knew how many pairs of records there would be and that demand would exceed supply and that it would be hard to get the order completed. People have been talking about it for days. What is it that 10C owes people for? I don't get it.
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I actually think a lot of people are simply irate about not getting what they wanted, lol, but either way, I just figured it was pretty normal for a website - any website, really - to behave that way with that kind of sudden massive influx of traffic and half the people constantly refreshing.... i guess I just have lower standards when it comes to what band websites can do, lol. I suppose i am also just surprised that anyone wasn't fully expecting and prepared for exactly what happened.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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PJ Soul you are thinking too rationally. I have tried putting many times this was a system integration issue and there was nothing they could do other than spend many millions building a fully integrated site that just doesn't exist in the world right now (all POS systems are handled by just a couple of companies). You passed the inventory check, you passed the user check but your order timed out before it went into the order fulfillment system due to 500 going in when the system could only handle 100 at that exact moment. So the site thinks it worked as it shouldn't fail at that point except in doomsday scenarios like this. They could add a final check before it posts and probably should if they will do it this way but that will just slow it down even more in the end. This will never change here or anywhere else when you have this many people trying to order at the same time. Its an unfortunate consequence of the internet age and internet retailing. It would be the same thing if Walmart had 1000 of something but said we only have 10 registers and the sale ends in an hour. Lots of people would have it in their shopping carts but wouldn't be able to buy it when the time ran out. Those 10 registers can only move so fast. So yes you had it and feel like you should have been able to buy it but you were the unfortunate SOB that was an hour and 10 minutes back in the line. Everyone had a fair shake at it as it had nothing to do with your internet. It had to do with the bandwidth exceeding max capacity and your order had to wait in line just as you did at the store in my scenario.Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's
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I'm pretty sure I'll get one. I can't see 10c charging my debit card and them cancelling my order that's for sureAlpine Valley East Troy WI 1998...United Center Chicago IL1998...All State Arena Rosemont IL 2000 (anybody have a spare poster)
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PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 1 2011...PJ20 East Troy WI Nite 2 2011...Wrigley Field Chicago IL 2013...iWireless Center Moline IL 2014
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Yeah. I understand the supply issue. That's fine. But all the false positives... the need to cancel orders 7 hours plus later, selling out then a second release later (in case I decided to sit at my computer the entire beautiful saturday)... it's annoying and there needs to be a better way. It actually seems to be getting worse.
Put in your shipping address we will send your mystery vinyl to.
*puts in address and waits a minute
Put in your shipping address we will ship your mystery vinyl to
For 25 minutes... after the site claimed I wasn't a member for 15.
Then the white screen uncertainties, cancelled orders.
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