Michael Moore proving once again...

cincybearcat
cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
edited January 2015 in A Moving Train
That he is a blowhard asshat.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/entertainment/feat-michael-moore-sniper-tweet-feat/
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I read this earlier and just shook my head.

    He lost my respect quite awhile ago anyway, so I don't put much stock in his views.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    He just really loves to be talked about I guess.
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  • Shawshank
    Shawshank Posts: 1,018
    War fucking sucks no matter what. We should have never ever ever gone into Iraq at all, because the vacuum it created left it prime real estate for the really sick and deranged groups that are set on killing as many Americans as possible. What we created there was so much worse than what existed prior to. Unfortunately there are no "rules" when it comes to how your enemy may kill you or the people you are with. If Michael Moore thinks being a sniper is "cowardly", I'd be curious to know if he thinks being some phuckstick that hides off in the distance and sets off a roadside bomb is of equal or greater cowardice? Or how about the ones who use women and kids to trick and then kill themselves along with any Americans that are around them. Utilizing snipers has been a common and effective tactic since before the Civil War...it's nothing new. It's pretty evident in the book that Chris Kyle, I hate to say that he took "pleasure" in killing the enemy, but there was a huge measure of satisfaction. Not from the standpoint of being a sadistic asshole who liked killing people, but because for every one of those guys he killed, he saw it as him saving and helping to protect the men he was fighting with.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Well, I guess I'm gonna get shit on for saying this, but typical of America, we celebrate ace killers more than peacemakers.

    OK, so fuck me for saying that. I'm sticking to it.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't see it as revering one over the other (why would or should we?), but to call them cowards...well, as said earlier, Moore doesn't carry much credence with me.

    And good post, Shawshank.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    What was Seth Rogan talking about?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,599
    Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh: Twin demons of the left and the right.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    brianlux wrote: »
    Well, I guess I'm gonna get shit on for saying this, but typical of America, we celebrate ace killers more than peacemakers.

    OK, so fuck me for saying that. I'm sticking to it.

    I completely agree with you Brian. On a day we recognize a person for promoting peace and standing up to injustice, we get to discuss the heroism of killing for the sake of being on the "right" side. WTF?
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    Well, I guess I'm gonna get shit on for saying this, but typical of America, we celebrate ace killers more than peacemakers.

    OK, so fuck me for saying that. I'm sticking to it.

    I completely agree with you Brian. On a day we recognize a person for promoting peace and standing up to injustice, we get to discuss the heroism of killing for the sake of being on the "right" side. WTF?

    It's just a movie. Based on a person's account of what he went through.

    I'm not giving you shit Brian. I am guessing there are movies about peacemakers, I just can't think of any on the spot.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    Well, I guess I'm gonna get shit on for saying this, but typical of America, we celebrate ace killers more than peacemakers.

    OK, so fuck me for saying that. I'm sticking to it.

    I completely agree with you Brian. On a day we recognize a person for promoting peace and standing up to injustice, we get to discuss the heroism of killing for the sake of being on the "right" side. WTF?

    Thanks, bsL12.

    I should probably apologize for my shitty attitude but here it is, MLK day, and the first thing that pops up on AMT on my screen today is a thread referring to another man (no, I'm not comparing Moore to MLK) who promotes peace as a "blowhard asshat" (forum Guildline# 3: "There are people bashing and insulting each other all over the internet. We feel it can be better here.")

    It is so typically American to put our hired killers on a pedestal. To do so today of all days just seems wrong to me. Not dis-allowable, but at the very least, disrespectful.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Fine, I'll wait till tomorrow to criticize Moore :-D

    C'mon...similar and worse terms have been used about a slew of others. Not sure why this is so different.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    one nation's hero is another nation's terrorist.
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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    I don't give a fuck if I get flamed for this but a sniper IS a fucken coward.
  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    badbrains wrote: »
    I don't give a fuck if I get flamed for this but a sniper IS a fucken coward.

    I feel the same.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Figured I see these responses here. Interesting that most are ok with a self-centered piece of shit calling a fallen soldier a coward. Very classy, but again he is such a piece if shit I don't know why I'd expect anything less.
    The only thing Michael Moore promotes is himself, don't kid yourselves.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't think anyone here has been given close to shit for their thinking snipers (all, some, just in general?) lack courage, just as I'd hope those who think differently wouldn't be subjected to the same.

    And to reiterate, I put no one on a pedestal. What's the point?
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    You all know that he was protecting the troops on the ground. He was not out there just sniping people for shits and giggles. He was the overwatch for Marines, but I guess that is a coward. Maybe learn what the man did first before you start passing opinions.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Oh please Brian, step off your pedestal. People have said far worse about others here, and I'm not addressing a single poster here.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Last-12-Exit wrote: »
    backseatLover12 wrote: »
    brianlux wrote: »
    Well, I guess I'm gonna get shit on for saying this, but typical of America, we celebrate ace killers more than peacemakers.

    OK, so fuck me for saying that. I'm sticking to it.

    I completely agree with you Brian. On a day we recognize a person for promoting peace and standing up to injustice, we get to discuss the heroism of killing for the sake of being on the "right" side. WTF?

    It's just a movie. Based on a person's account of what he went through.

    I'm not giving you shit Brian. I am guessing there are movies about peacemakers, I just can't think of any on the spot.

    Uh, it's a real story, not "just a movie".

    http://www.people.com/article/american-sniper-chris-kyle-story-behind-bradley-cooper-role

  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited January 2015
    cincybearcat wrote: »
    Oh please Brian, step off your pedestal. People have said far worse about others here, and I'm not addressing a single poster here.

    Way to have respect for a day observed nationally to honor a man to have made a difference in the name of PEACE and rights for everyone. THAT'S what Brian is talking about. He's on no pedestal, you must be merely in need to point a finger somewhere, and you were told how it is.
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