There are no real details or facts coming from Fox or CNN right now. I believe this is at a hugh school near or in Marysville, Washington.
Correct. I've heard on msnbc that the shooter was a popular kid at school who seemed to be happy and nothing. Although one of the kids said he got into a fight with another kid the other day over racism. Who knows.
Haven't read what has happened, but brutal for certain.
if a student in HS has access to a gun then that means the "responsible legal gun owner" wasnt so responsible, no doesn't it. Fuck al lif it was his parent, that parent should be charged and convicted of murder.
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Haven't read what has happened, but brutal for certain.
Why? The President doesn't.
Sorry if I prefer to protect our children with trained and armed personal instead of a sign with some words on it that has never stopped a bad guy.
Truth hurts. Gun free zones kill.
Yes, let's institutionalize the school even more like prisons than they already are. Armed guards, uniforms, locked doors, RFIDs. Sounds like a great environment for learning. Sounds a lot more like North Korea than North America.
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I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
no no no don't you know the only way you can prevent a school shooting is having 100 armed security at every school?
I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
no no no don't you know the only way you can prevent a school shooting is having 100 armed security at every school?
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I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
no no no don't you know the only way you can prevent a school shooting is having 100 armed security at every school?
And they must all be carrying AR-14s
damm right, its the only way to protect the children and don't you want to protect your kids?
Haven't read what has happened, but brutal for certain.
Why? The President doesn't.
Sorry if I prefer to protect our children with trained and armed personal instead of a sign with some words on it that has never stopped a bad guy.
Truth hurts. Gun free zones kill.
Yes, let's institutionalize the school even more like prisons than they already are. Armed guards, uniforms, locked doors, RFIDs. Sounds like a great environment for learning. Sounds a lot more like North Korea than North America.
Totally agree. Kids will all end up being fucked in the head (even more than they already are) if schools turn into that.
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,283
so you dont think the owner of a weapon that's used in a crime such as this shouldnt be held accountable? If that kid was driving his parents car and plowed into a crowd wouldnt they bear some responsibility? Whats different?
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Most schools are already underfunded and are forced to cut educational programs or certain sports teams due to budget cuts. SOOOOOO lets add in the cost for armed security and the training and liability insurance that goes with it. Oh but we can never raise taxes.
Lets come up with REAL ideas to prevent these tragedies and not armed guards or armed teachers which will NEVER happen.
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This shit just went down and already some people are jumping the gun (honestly, no pun intended).
Does anyone know more or have deeper insight beyond what's been initially reported?
I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
A student at Washington state's Marysville-Pilchuck High School walked into the school's cafeteria, went up to a table with students, "came up from behind ... and fired about six bullets into the backs of them," witness Jordan Luton told CNN. "They were his friends, so it wasn't just random," Luton said.
I highly doubt an armed security guard would have prevented one bullet from being fired. He stood up in the cafeteria and started shooting. (Allegedly)
A student at Washington state's Marysville-Pilchuck High School walked into the school's cafeteria, went up to a table with students, "came up from behind ... and fired about six bullets into the backs of them," witness Jordan Luton told CNN. "They were his friends, so it wasn't just random," Luton said.
This is why handguns are so effective. You just carry that little weapon in your pocket and... right when you're ready... "surprise" and begin firing.
Cue critical response: This is why the other students needed to have their own guns. That way... "double surprise" and a gun fight could have occurred.
so you dont think the owner of a weapon that's used in a crime such as this shouldnt be held accountable? If that kid was driving his parents car and plowed into a crowd wouldnt they bear some responsibility? Whats different?
Is that true? If my daughter was driving my car and plowed into somebody and killed them, I could be legally accountable? I know financially, my insurance would pay, but I could get charged with a crime?
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,283
so you dont think the owner of a weapon that's used in a crime such as this shouldnt be held accountable? If that kid was driving his parents car and plowed into a crowd wouldnt they bear some responsibility? Whats different?
Is that true? If my daughter was driving my car and plowed into somebody and killed them, I could be legally accountable? I know financially, my insurance would pay, but I could get charged with a crime?
depends on the circumstances. but it could be possible.
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Haven't read what has happened, but brutal for certain.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Sorry if I prefer to protect our children with trained and armed personal instead of a sign with some words on it that has never stopped a bad guy.
Truth hurts. Gun free zones kill.
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The answer to 16,000 gun deaths and 4-5 national tragedies every year is more guns. Brilliant.
and not yet the time for the comment...but i do agree with mickeyrat
Please will someone think of the children!
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Lets come up with REAL ideas to prevent these tragedies and not armed guards or armed teachers which will NEVER happen.
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Does anyone know more or have deeper insight beyond what's been initially reported?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/us/washington-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
This is why handguns are so effective. You just carry that little weapon in your pocket and... right when you're ready... "surprise" and begin firing.
Cue critical response: This is why the other students needed to have their own guns. That way... "double surprise" and a gun fight could have occurred.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14