Pandora has passed :( she used to post here ....

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    edited October 2014
    Good morning all.....I only check in here maybe 3 times a week now by phone. When I first saw this thread last night I thought maybe this was some longtime poster such as Roland who hasn't posted here in 6 years or so.

    Death can be such a difficult thing to comprehend at times and last night I dropped my phone in disbelief in what I was reading about the passing of Pandora. I still am trying to take this all in, this hit me like a surprise left, not to the chin but to my gut which hurts a whole lot more.....I did not sleep a wink all night....our Moving Train here is moving in all sorts of directions.

    Many of you here know of the many disagreements I had with her trying to get an understanding to her points of view. That aside she was the one who got me to post in the poetry board and to even to write a couple poems. I haven't posted there since she left. We shared countless pm's, emails and postings trying to settle our differences. We shared some of the same musical tastes from the sixties...old school rock and it was so much fun when we would hit on a band or musician that we both liked. I thought of her missing avatar replaced by that banned thing and often wondered if she like myself look in here every once in awhile.

    After reading through what some here wrote I had to put the phone down, get up and play this song repeatidly. It's from Grace Under Pressure by RUSH called.....AFTERIMAGE

    Suddenly, you were gone
    From all the lives you left your mark upon

    I remember
    How we talked and drank into the misty dawn
    I hear the voices

    We ran by the water on the wet summer lawn
    I see the footprints
    I remember

    I feel the way you would
    I feel the way you would

    Tried to believe but you know it's no good
    This is something that just can't be understood

    I remember
    The shouts of joy skiing fast through the woods
    I hear the echoes

    I learned your love for life,
    I feel the way that you would
    I feel your presence
    I remember

    I feel the way you would
    This just can't be understood...

    http://youtu.be/aalJT3GS_m8

    The opening lines sort of tells it all and I'm sure Pandora left her mark certainly here and for sure with her family and other friends. I'm far from the emotional type person but this has really hit me hard and I'm at a serious loss for words. Either that or I just can't keep my eyes open anymore.

    To JB and the rest of his family...carry on in the way Pandora would have wanted you to....celebrate her accomplishments and triumphs through all the grief of her passing. Best wishes to the family and may she rest peacefully.

    Peace
    E
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    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    g,

    For being at a loss for words, you spoke just beautifully and honestly. Nice song choice too. Fitting.

    I thought of her missing avatar replaced by that banned thing and often wondered if she like myself look in here every once in awhile.

    Actually thought of this too. I loved that happy mid-clap Ed.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Sad news...my thoughts are with those left behind.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    didn't anyone else get the email from JB? ... not that I mind at all but I was wondering where he might have gotten it ...
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I didn't; might've been tied into Pandora's account, some she communicated with via that means (or when it was still an option to email vs PM pre-forum change).
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,861
    ugh.

    Got into it with her quite a bit. I didnt agree with her political views almost 100%, but one thing with her is she would stick to her guns no matter how much the ship was sinking and how many people were piling on... Wouldnt budge. You gotta admire that. It was pretty obvious that other than getting heated about views, you can tell she was a very pleasant person in real life.

    Anyways, she was one of us. She left a mark here, everyone knew who she was. "Spunk" is a really good word used. Its really sad to hear. Ill be thinking of her and her family today. RIP Pandora.


  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    hedonist said:

    I didn't; might've been tied into Pandora's account, some she communicated with via that means (or when it was still an option to email vs PM pre-forum change).

    i know i never talked to her personally ... it's all good ... was just curious
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited October 2014
    Pandora was asset to the MT, a character that made board fun.

    Missed her strong posts.


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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I'm very sorry and sad to ear of Pandora's passing.
    I too, had many disagreements with her. But she reached out to me via PM many times, and that helped me feel the personal connection to her that was missing through our other arguments. And as much as I disagreed with her, I once PM'd her that I bet we would get along just fine in person, and of course she wrote back some very nice things. Later, she continued to put aside our differences and pm'd me very encouraging words about writing and music, which definitely gave me a bit of motivation and confidence in the early stages. She was a firecracker and I do really wish I could have met her in person.

    Best wishes to her family...
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  • zarocat
    zarocat Posts: 1,901

    Wow...very sorry to see this. Seemed like a very good person.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,871
    Very sad.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    I spent most of yesterday reading old back and forth conversations with her on a lot of topics and found myself laughing quite a bit. She was certainly a character on these boards that was both hilarious and frustrating at the same time.
    Loss of close family is never easy, my thoughts go out to them.
    I have to say I hate being reminded that life is so short, time for me to get out and take advantage of today.
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  • STAYSEA
    STAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    I will always remember her fondly. She was to me a truly remarkable person. She was always quick to add her wisdom to some of my posts. Whether we disagreed or agreed we always had warm fuzziness and humor in our exchanges.
    My box turtle shares the same name, and I will always be reminded of her.
    Thank you for sharing with us Pandora. We will miss you
    ( she was fond of using the clapping emoticon)
    =D>
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  • iluvcats
    iluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Thank you for posting. I would not have known, I did not get the email. I do not know JB.
    May Pandora RIP.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I was originally not going to post anything as my time on the board did not intersect with Pandora's. However, anyone who provokes such passionate comments must have been a remarkable person indeed. I'll raise a glass to honour her and her 10 club friends tonight.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    I was originally not going to post anything as my time on the board did not intersect with Pandora's. However, anyone who provokes such passionate comments must have been a remarkable person indeed. I'll raise a glass to honour her and her 10 club friends tonight.

    This is very cool to read.

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    went ahead & lit a new candle (pecan caramel swirl) for pandora, jb & family. smells great.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    let's go to her thread in god's parking lot, poetry forum
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    I was quite shocked reading JB's email - at first I didn't even open it, thinking it was a phising e-mail.

    As some of you here, my 'exchanges' with Pandora were somewhat heated and 'petulant'. Didn't really see eye to eye with her on most things.

    But that doesn't stop me from feeling sorrow. Sorrow for JB who lost his soulmate in such an untimely manner. Sorrow for her children who lost their mother. My thoughts are with her family at this very sad time and with all those who loved her.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,340
    I am really sad to hear about this.

    Most times, when people get banned, I just assume that they go on and live their lives another 30 years or whatever and spend their time doing other more productive things than arguing with a bunch of strangers on the internet. You never, ever, expect them to pass away, or have their time just stop like this. It really makes you think and puts everything into perspective.

    Pandora and i have an interesting history. We never really got along on amt. We were polar opposites and we went at it pretty hard on here. It was nothing personal, at least on my end. She was just so "lovey dovey" and for the life of me i could not figure out why. Here i was going through some very tough situations and was basically hating life and everything and everyone in it, and here was this person with an avatar of a smiling Ed that seemed to have all of the happiness in the world. I could not figure it out. I did not think she was real, because nobody could be that positive, and that happy, right?? I tried really hard to figure out where she got her positivity from, and where she got her happiness, and where she got her outlook on life. I really tried to catch her in a moment of contradiction, but she never contradicted herself. She always stuck to her position, even when she was the only one taking that position. She never backed down, and i respected the hell out of her for that. Most times, the rest of us would just bail when a thread was going against us. But not her. We argued a lot on here, and i was a dickhead a lot of the time. I feel really bad about that. After she got banned, i felt even worse about it. Even though her ban happened months after i pretty much started ignoring all of her moving train posts. Her and I got along fine on other forums. She actually gave me feedback on some of my music and some of my writing, and I took it to heart. She was always good about being able to put disagreements aside in order to give honest feedback about whatever you might be creating.

    After she got banned, JB reached out to me. He told me that she took the banning really hard, and that she wanted me to know that she did not harbor any anger against me and that she enjoyed our exchanges over the years. I was kind of surprised to hear that. It made me feel good to know that she wanted him to take time out of his day to message me and tell me that. I was able to smooth things out with her through emails and pms to JB. Over the months JB and I got to be fairly regular pen pals. I let them know a lot about me and what was going on in my life, and in a way, they let me into their lives. It was through those messages that I finally understood where Pandora got her happiness. That man loved her with all of his heart. My heart is broken for him and for their family. I am typing this through tears. I can not imagine what they are going through right now. I saw the photos of her, and she looks nothing like I imagined. When i thought of her, i thought of the smiling mid clap photo of Ed.

    The last time i heard from JB was about 6 or 8 months ago. Maybe longer. He said that he was going to let his membership lapse, since Pandora did not want to see pearl jam again. It made me sad she felt that way, because pearl jam was a big part of her life for so long. We had email addresses that we could keep in touch. Sadly, I lost touch with him, as I do so often with people on here. I need to try to find his email and drop him a line.

    Sorry to ramble. I just needed to put this out there.

    JB if you see this, I am really, really sorry for your loss. I am glad that you reached out to me so that Pandi and I could smooth things over. Take care of yourself and your family. And, no, i never got the new dog :)

    RIP Pandora, and thanks for the memories.

    Rod
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."