Pandora has passed :( she used to post here ....

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    I dnt think there's anything wrong with what drowned out said. He was honest and straight forward. And I do get what he's saying. I'm sure pandora would get it to. At least I'd hope she'd get it. But that's just me.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    Not sure it was necessary for you to share your take on my words, either. i don't really care what you think, thirty.
    I swear it was not said with malicious intent. You think I said that to rub salt in a wound or something? Come on...
    I honestly think she'd be happy to know she pissed me off. God knows she tried :)).
    I felt like a dick ignoring this thread, but I wanted to say something honest.
    If I died and she posted a bunch of positive compliments about me, I'd have rolled in my grave.
    I could clearly see the positives people saw in her, but none of that positivity was ever directed at me; not once. And that's ok because I was no better to her. Doesn't mean I think she was a bad person, or I'm glad she's gone (even from the forums).
    I really do wish her family peace...
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    edited October 2014
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    That might be so, however he's being honest and I prefer straight up honesty over what he said with phoney posthumous compliments. My compliments were from the heart and honestly what I felt about her even though we strongly had our disagreements with just about everything. I can still speak of the positives she brought to me and this board.
    That said, the sun will rise in the morning I can drive a few miles to the Atlantic Ocean to see it. Pandora can't do that anymore, however maybe she can in her afterlife.

    RIPeace


    Post edited by g under p on
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    You prefaced your entire post with "I don't have much positive to say about Pandora." This is insensitive. The rest of what you wrote was reasonable.

    I was always taught to be respectful. I believe there's a guy named JB on these boards hurting right now. If you couldn't respect Pandora then at least respect him.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited October 2014
    g under p said:


    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    That might be so, however he's being honest and I prefer straight up honesty over what he said with phoney posthumous compliments. My compliments were from the heart and honestly what I felt about her even though we strongly had our disagreements with just about everything. I can still speak of the positives she brought to me and this board.
    That said, the sun will rise in the morning I can drive a few miles to the Atlantic Ocean to see it. Pandora can't do that anymore, however maybe she can in her afterlife.

    RIPeace


    Thank you sir. For the record - I didn't mean to question the compliments anyone has given - only to explain why my comments were a bit different than most. If the consensus is that I should edit out of respect, I will. I wasn't trying to be controversial. I'd need you guys to delete the quotes, tho.

    My heart also goes out to her many friends on the board.
    Post edited by Drowned Out on
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    I like your honesty here Drowned.

  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    You prefaced your entire post with "I don't have much positive to say about Pandora." This is insensitive. The rest of what you wrote was reasonable.

    I was always taught to be respectful. I believe there's a guy named JB on these boards hurting right now. If you couldn't respect Pandora then at least respect him.

    I'm not going to get into it with you here. I'm sure JB is aware of the history between Pandora and I. If I've shown disrespect to pandora or JB, I apologize because it was not my intent. And I never said I couldn't respect her.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Drowned Out said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    You prefaced your entire post with "I don't have much positive to say about Pandora." This is insensitive. The rest of what you wrote was reasonable.

    I was always taught to be respectful. I believe there's a guy named JB on these boards hurting right now. If you couldn't respect Pandora then at least respect him.

    I'm not going to get into it with you here. I'm sure JB is aware of the history between Pandora and I. If I've shown disrespect to pandora or JB, I apologize because it was not my intent. And I never said I couldn't respect her.
    I may have read it wrong. To me, your post almost reads as a backhanded compliment, but there seems to be support for what you have written. I should have just shut up.

    Allow me to apologize for placing you on the spot and not allowing you to say your peace.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Drowned Out said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Well...honestly, aside from stating the obvious - that she loved her family very much, and was a passionate person...I don't have much positive to say about Pandora. We made no secret of our disdain for each other. The only warning I've ever received on this board followed a nasty exchange with her. There was no post-banning reconciliation, and no desire for it (i assume), from either side.

    I really can't stand phoney posthumous compliments, so I had planned on taking moms advice ('if you have nothing nice to say....')....but I think if she's out there somewhere, it would put a smile on her face to hear me admit that she was the one person on this board, in nearly 15 years of posting, who consistently got under my skin :).

    Not sure if that's a tribute, but.....
    As mentioned here recently; most regular AMT posters thrive on these confrontations. So if nothing else, she kept me on my toes and kept things interesting.


    RIP. Sympathies to her family.

    Not so sure this was needed.
    Not sure it was necessary for you to share your take on my words, either. i don't really care what you think, thirty.
    I swear it was not said with malicious intent. You think I said that to rub salt in a wound or something? Come on...
    I honestly think she'd be happy to know she pissed me off. God knows she tried :)).
    I felt like a dick ignoring this thread, but I wanted to say something honest.
    If I died and she posted a bunch of positive compliments about me, I'd have rolled in my grave.
    I could clearly see the positives people saw in her, but none of that positivity was ever directed at me; not once. And that's ok because I was no better to her. Doesn't mean I think she was a bad person, or I'm glad she's gone (even from the forums).
    I really do wish her family peace...
    Solid and Honest.All you can ask.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    This thread has taken an interesting turn int what- at least to my perception- is a good example of how we can be honest, firm in our stance on something but not degrade ourselves or each other with petty name calling or hostile attacking reactions. Some strong feelings, for sure but not really attacking. I agree that, Drowned Out, you might have just changed that first sentence but really, what you said was honest but didn't seem like an attack. There are also some very cool sincere efforts at reconciliation in some of these posts. I'm good here with all you fine folks.

    I must also apologize here to josevolution- I know you want this thread to be about Pandora. It was cool that you changed the thread title to indicate so.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    You prefaced your entire post with "I don't have much positive to say about Pandora." This is insensitive. The rest of what you wrote was reasonable.

    I was always taught to be respectful. I believe there's a guy named JB on these boards hurting right now. If you couldn't respect Pandora then at least respect him.

    I'm not going to get into it with you here. I'm sure JB is aware of the history between Pandora and I. If I've shown disrespect to pandora or JB, I apologize because it was not my intent. And I never said I couldn't respect her.
    I may have read it wrong. To me, your post almost reads as a backhanded compliment, but there seems to be support for what you have written. I should have just shut up.

    Allow me to apologize for placing you on the spot and not allowing you to say your peace.
    No worries. Im not sure if you read it wrong or I wrote it wrong - I know my filter in these situations can be a bit lacking. im probably the one who should have just shut up. I appreciate the apology.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Drowned Out said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Drowned Out said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    You prefaced your entire post with "I don't have much positive to say about Pandora." This is insensitive. The rest of what you wrote was reasonable.

    I was always taught to be respectful. I believe there's a guy named JB on these boards hurting right now. If you couldn't respect Pandora then at least respect him.

    I'm not going to get into it with you here. I'm sure JB is aware of the history between Pandora and I. If I've shown disrespect to pandora or JB, I apologize because it was not my intent. And I never said I couldn't respect her.
    I may have read it wrong. To me, your post almost reads as a backhanded compliment, but there seems to be support for what you have written. I should have just shut up.

    Allow me to apologize for placing you on the spot and not allowing you to say your peace.
    No worries. Im not sure if you read it wrong or I wrote it wrong - I know my filter in these situations can be a bit lacking. im probably the one who should have just shut up. I appreciate the apology.
    HALTS MAUL the both of you =)) sorry pandora, I couldn't help myself.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I think Drowned's right - she'd be laughing at how some things never change :D

    Nice thread. Bluntness without malice, can't go wrong. Always appreciated.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    josevolution said:

    I changed thread title it needed her name on it this thread is about her lets keep the focus on her ....

    My apologies for posting off topic earlier. I thought the thread had moved to a larger discussion but I agree, best kept to its original intent.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I can only hope that when I die, I would have the same impact on others (positiver or negative) the way Pandora did. I didn't know her personally, just the few debates back when I first started posting here. If you asked me what she looked like, I would have said Eddie Vedder clapping.

    I can appreciate the passion. Pandoras passion and all your passion when speaking about her. I have had heated debates with many of you guys and gals here on AMT. But I can say with almost 100% certainty that I would sit and have a beer with any of you. Pandora included.

    That being said, whenever any of you guys come to the Charleston area, hit me up.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Last-12-Exit said:

    I can only hope that when I die, I would have the same impact on others (positiver or negative) the way Pandora did. I didn't know her personally, just the few debates back when I first started posting here. If you asked me what she looked like, I would have said Eddie Vedder clapping.

    I can appreciate the passion. Pandoras passion and all your passion when speaking about her. I have had heated debates with many of you guys and gals here on AMT. But I can say with almost 100% certainty that I would sit and have a beer with any of you. Pandora included.

    That being said, whenever any of you guys come to the Charleston area, hit me up.

    Nail on head. Nice.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I'm never happy when anyone dies. that being said, I rejoiced when I noticed she was banned from the forums. She attacked me personally, without provocation I might add, on several occasions in pm's and on the board.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited November 2014
    I don't know about behind the scenes stuff, but I recall you two butting heads more than once.

    Interesting timing on bumping this, Hugh (and obviously from a different though no more valid perspective than yours) - Pandora just jumped into my thoughts earlier this morning, and how tough today must be for her family. Hope they're finding comfort in being with each other.
    Post edited by hedonist on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,102
    i thought about her monday night when i was posting about the unrest in ferguson. i think i know what she would have said about it. which naturally would have irritated me under the circumstances, but i think she would have been right. i hope jb and the family are doing ok.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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