Eating Paleo

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    This is an honest question, not a criticism - how do the Paleos respond to the fact that there is also evidence that a vegan diet promotes health and increases lifespan? (I'm not vegan and have no vested interest in this; I personally think that any diet with more fruit and vegetables and fewer Cheetos is on the right track).


    I'm not vegan but I believe they consume legumes and grains, both huge Paleo no-no's.

    Both increase inflammation levels in the blood and that's a key aspect for going Paleo.


  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    this is really good stuff. after one day i feel a difference & it was immediate as soon as i woke up. no grains & stupid bullshit... bam the determination/will-power kicked in. when my determination/will-power are dialed in

    holy smokes good shit

    i will miss two malted pancakes at the diner. maybe later down the line a spell i'll check em out
    nuts but without the salt or honey roasted... plain damn raw nuts
    the cutting back on bananas is not going to be enjoyable, i've had two already today. one step at a time
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Yeah if you are trying to drop weight go moderate with fruit.

    Good Luck, the first few days are rough but after a couple of weeks you'll see some changes happening and it'll really motivate you to stick with it.

    Just another tip if you are trying to drop fat, only weigh in once a week. Same time, same day, once a week.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Try to do 30 days, you'll be amazed.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I can't imagine cutting any whole food out permanently...Meats, veggies, fruits, grains, dairy....I wouldn't want to live without the variety, food is definitely part of enjoying life for me. Sometimes it borders on addiction...but I try to keep everything in moderation and I always focus on getting my activity level higher above all else.
    If I went paleo what would I have to eat my peanut butter and maple syrup on?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited October 2014
    unsung said:

    Yeah if you are trying to drop weight go moderate with fruit.

    Good Luck, the first few days are rough but after a couple of weeks you'll see some changes happening and it'll really motivate you to stick with it.

    Just another tip if you are trying to drop fat, only weigh in once a week. Same time, same day, once a week.

    i see my doctor(s) monthly or even biweekly as different things are going on. so yes i am weighing in. knees are smoked, shoulders the same & my back & a list of shit & piss going on. i screwed up this summer by not staying on my swimming & healthy eating regimen. first in june i torn my R rotator cuff, my L is basically the same. they seem to be feeling better in the pool as i quit swimming laps w/ those buyoant dumbbells & quit weight lifting dumbbells before bed or whenever. in my mid 20's i rolled/tumbled down a highway as i was flung out of my car. those shoulders took a beating but amazingly didn't break.

    yes i am back on track, i am sure of this. if i had every penny on the planet i would give it all away for my health (everyone's better health) & no more pain. i have been done w/ grass 4.5 months now. sad thing is i had been drinking again, not daily but when i drink it's enough for 4 people. im done, done, done & done w/ everything yet again. thing is i get no help whatsoever from the pain clinic or hospital. a guy can only take so much agony. dial in the inner buddha determination, always have had it, it just gets a short distance away lost sometimes. yes surgeries are on the horizon when i get into my new upcoming life.

    thank you, unsung

    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited October 2014
    Sorry to hear it Chad.Stay focused,maybe add in Yoga and Pilates for the gimpy body.I know it sounds girly but I do Pilates every Friday night It does a number on the muscles between the muscles and really helps with core and stability.It really compliments regular weight training and cardio.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    rr, it is not girly at all. i'll be having both knees replaced at some point. im not to well balanced & i sure as shit am not going on the floor any time soon. this is why i do my thing in water. i'll be fully back at my fish type behavior here directly.

    that car of mine i decided to get flung out of is a drop in the bucket. life has beat my ass, i have beat my ass.

    i'll see what i can do, rr. thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:

    This is an honest question, not a criticism - how do the Paleos respond to the fact that there is also evidence that a vegan diet promotes health and increases lifespan? (I'm not vegan and have no vested interest in this; I personally think that any diet with more fruit and vegetables and fewer Cheetos is on the right track).


    I'm not vegan but I believe they consume legumes and grains, both huge Paleo no-no's.

    Both increase inflammation levels in the blood and that's a key aspect for going Paleo.


    So, no beer on a Paleo diet?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2014
    Unfortunately no, but I sneak in one craft beer every now and then.

    Actually no alcohol at all.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    unsung said:

    Unfortunately no, but I sneak in one craft beer every now and then.

    Actually no alcohol at all.

    This is unexceptable!!
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    I tried Deal a Meal but now I am on Atkins.....is anybody on that?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:

    Unfortunately no, but I sneak in one craft beer every now and then.

    Actually no alcohol at all.

    Oh, I'm pretty sure Paleo man found a way to make alcohol. After all, everyone else has.

    I guess to be true to the principles you should sneak a bottle of wine, not a craft beer. You can eat grapes, right?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    unsung said:

    Unfortunately no, but I sneak in one craft beer every now and then.

    Actually no alcohol at all.

    Oh, I'm pretty sure Paleo man found a way to make alcohol. After all, everyone else has.

    I guess to be true to the principles you should sneak a bottle of wine, not a craft beer. You can eat grapes, right?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The problem with wine is the Nitrates.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    The biggest source of nitrates for most people is leafy green vegetables. Vegetarians sometimes have low stomach acid which contributes to increased sensitivity to nitrates.
    I thought wine contained sulfites, not nitrates.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    unsung said:

    The problem with wine is the Nitrates.

    Yeah, big time for me. I love wine but the nitrates started giving me headaches when I hit my 60's. Now its Paleo Margaritas for me- a beverage based on archaeological assumptions that tropical cavemen found fermented limes and agave plants in ice caves and made a beverage from them.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited October 2014
    i'll be eating poppy bulbs like a real caveman or just slit my arrowhead down its plumpness & lick the milk up. maybe i'll even learn to put fire to it. we'll learn cultivation sometime & grafting & cross breeding & we'll come up w/ dynamite-thunder-god-green-bomb

    or no & be sober
    i'm going w/ sober for awhile

    http://youtu.be/N_c60Sp7Gtc

    been a few days & it is seriously awesome. 5:50am im up packing my swim bag. 7:30 im in the water & doing my thing for 2 hrs & 5 min. yesterday's midday meal was brussel sprouts & sauteed walnuts. supper was salmon filet, lemon wedges, g. onions, mushrooms & a large bowl of spinach w/ lemon squeezed over it

    good shit
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    The biggest source of nitrates for most people is leafy green vegetables. Vegetarians sometimes have low stomach acid which contributes to increased sensitivity to nitrates.
    I thought wine contained sulfites, not nitrates.

    My bad, you are correct. I'm working mids, my mind is mush.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    The biggest source of nitrates for most people is leafy green vegetables. Vegetarians sometimes have low stomach acid which contributes to increased sensitivity to nitrates.
    I thought wine contained sulfites, not nitrates.

    My bad, you are correct. I'm working mids, my mind is mush.
    Ditto. It said "nitrates" and my mind read "sulfates". But nitrates and nitrites are nasty shit too- not good for the body and can definitely contribute to migraines. Best to avoid those chemicals (amongst a host of others, of course.)

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni