Gaza ***GRAPHIC PICS***

But it is the US giving them $3illion a year which they mostly spend on US weapons also so yeah, it's an evil merrygoround

its an orwellian nightmare! Humanity will not meet the challenges of the next few centuries, we will fight over water when the oil is gone and the planet will shuck us like corn husks :(

eldarion75 said:

3000 people marching to the israeli embassy in dublin right now

I'm pretty sure you meant to say 3000 "anti-Semites" marching to Israeli embassy in Dublin.

dignin said:

eldarion75 said:

3000 people marching to the israeli embassy in dublin right now

I'm pretty sure you meant to say 3000 "anti-Semites" marching to Israeli embassy in Dublin.

and there's the rub on the position theyve taken to themselves...suddenly to be antiwar, is to be antisemite....that's ridiculous.

Eight hundred dead Palestinians. But Israel has impunity
There’s something very odd about our reactions to these two outrageous death tolls

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/eight-hundred-dead-palestinians-but-israel-has-impunity-9629726.html
Impunity is the word that comes to mind. Eight hundred dead Palestinians. Eight hundred. That’s infinitely more than twice the total dead of flight MH17 over Ukraine. And if you refer only to the “innocent” dead – ie no Hamas fighters, young sympathisers or corrupt Hamas officials, with whom the Israelis will, in due course, have to talk – then the women and children and elderly who have been slaughtered in Gaza are still well over the total number of MH17 victims.
And there’s something very odd, isn’t there, about our reactions to these two outrageous death tolls. In Gaza, we plead for a ceasefire but let them bury their dead in the sweltering slums of Gaza and cannot even open a humanitarian route for the wounded. For the passengers on MH17, we demand – immediately – proper burial and care for the relatives of the dead. We curse those who left bodies lying in the fields of eastern Ukraine – as many bodies have been lying, for a shorter time, perhaps, but under an equally oven-like sky, in Gaza.

Because – and this has been creeping up on me for years – we don’t care so much about the Palestinians, do we? We care neither about Israeli culpability, which is far greater because of the larger number of civilians the Israeli army have killed. Nor, for that matter, Hamas’s capability. Of course, God forbid that the figures should have been the other way round. If 800 Israelis had died and only 35 Palestinians, I think I know our reaction.

READ MORE: 18 MEMBERS OF ONE FAMILY KILLED IN GAZA AHEAD OF HUMANITARIAN 'PAUSE'
ISRAEL IS ATTEMPTING TO DEAL RATIONALLY WITH AN ENEMY CRAZED WITH LUST FOR OUR DEATH
ISRAEL HAS DISCOVERED THAT IT'S NO LONGER SO EASY TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER IN THE AGE OF SOCIAL MEDIA
WHY I'M ON THE BRINK OF BURNING MY ISRAELI PASSPORT

We would call it – rightly – a slaughter, an atrocity, a crime for which the killers must be made accountable. Yes, Hamas should be made accountable, too. But why is it that the only criminals we are searching for today are the men who fired one – perhaps two – missiles at an airliner over Ukraine? If Israel’s dead equalled those of the Palestinians – and let me repeat, thank heavens this is not the case – I suspect that the Americans would be offering all military support to an Israel endangered by “Iranian-backed terrorists”. We would be demanding that Hamas hand over the monsters who fired rockets at Israel and who are, by the way, trying to hit aircraft at Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion airport. But we are not doing this. Because those who have died are mostly Palestinians.

More questions. What’s the limit for Palestinian deaths before we have a ceasefire? Eight hundred? Or 8,000? Could we have a scorecard? The exchange rate for dead? Or would we just wait until our gorge rises at the blood and say enough – even for Israel’s war, enough is enough. It’s not as if we have not been through all this before.

From the massacre of Arab villagers by Israel’s new army in 1948, as it is set down by Israeli historians, to the Sabra and Shatila massacre, when Lebanese Christian allies of Israel murdered up to 1,700 people in 1982 while Israeli troops watched; from the Qana massacre of Lebanese Arabs at the UN base – yes, the UN again – in 1996, to another, smaller terrible killing at Qana (again) 10 years later. And so to the mass killing of civilians in the 2008-9 Gaza war. And after Sabra and Shatila, there were inquiries, and after Qana there was an inquiry and after Gaza in 2008-9, there was an inquiry and don’t we remember the weight of it, somewhat lightened of course when Judge Goldstone did his best to disown it, when – according to my Israeli friends – he came under intense personal pressure.

Byrnzie said:

this is what berlin looked like once the allies finished carpetbombing it.

we helped rebuild germany.

i am thinking israel will offer no such help to gaza once this is all over.

oh they'll rebuild it for sure, but it'll be for jews they pay to settle it from all over the world..

good point.

on a seperate note, Russia gets internationally embargoed up the yazoo for that plane being taken down(it more than likely wasnt even them) yet israel can kill with impuinty in Gaza and nothing..not a whisper..

can someone explain that to me??

gimmesometruth27 said:

it is simple.

fear of being labeled anti-semite.

israel and it's apologists know that that is something that people do not want to be called, because it can ruin their life, ruin their career, get them on terror watch lists, etc. this is precisely why calling someone anti-semite is the go-to, conditioned, response in most cases.

The notion of anti-Semitism, first of all, has changed from its technical meaning.

Since a Semitic person is someone who speaks a Semitic language, this would not be limited to Israelis or Jews, and would in fact include much of the Middle East.

Hence, you would think that anti-Semitism would include the same groups, and not only Israelis or Jews. The pivot happened in Germany if my understanding is correct (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/27646/anti-Semitism). It is a complete abuse of a term that should not have been changed from its literal meaning in the first place, and yet it is still used. If Israelis feel that there are anti-Israeli sentiments going around, they ought to call it anti-Israeli sentiments and not hide behind semantics.

That being said, anti-Semitism is very clearly rampant in the world, as both Jews and Arabs alike are being vilified. How rational or justifiable the vilification is varies depending on what subset of Semites one is referring to, and who's being asked.