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Yeah,I should have known being friendly and joking would be frowned on on a PJ fan forum.Byrnzie quotes himself in his signature.and seems like a bright guy,I thought maybe he was an author.So I checked and posted what came up.It was not personal at all,nor was it degrading.badbrains said:
And what does byrnzie's urban dictionary name thing u posted have to do with what he's reporting??? See, you're a fucken troll and a shitty one at that.rr165892 said:
You are ragging on how someone looks and sounds now?,what does her "Barbie"looks have to do with anything she's reporting.Byrnzie said:
Seriously though, did you really get all of your 'information' about this massacre from watching Fox news?WMAmorican said:To deliberately wage war so your own people are killed is moral insanity, but it rests on a sickly rational premise: Given the way the world treats Israel, along with historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the supposed underdog, Palestinian casualties undermine Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense. So Hamas’ depravity sort of makes evil sense. All the morons condemn Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years yet goes to extraordinary lengths to AVOID harming the innocents its enemies use as shields.
It’s really to the Israelis’ credit that amid all this madness they don't just bomb the living fuck out of all their neighbors that want to eradicate them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CptntFpme7Y
Watching this bullshit really is an eye-opener. Propaganda in full effect. And Americans thought that the Soviets had it bad? At least the Russians knew they were being lied to. How many Americans sit blinking in front of their t.v sets swallowing this shit whole? She sounds like some dizzy school girl from Beverly Hills 90210.
"There are several reasons why Americans should care very deeply about this current conflict. And number one because of 9/11. Because Hamas and Al Queda are the same types of Islamic terrorist groups that are theologically motivated with the goal of destroying the West...Hamas is attacking Israel because it sees Israel as the outpost of the West in the Middle East, and it knows that if we abandon Israel, if we allow Israel to be destroyed, then we are next, and it can destroy us."
[Notice how she keeps having to look down at the paper on the desk in front of her. Yet she pretends that she isn't reading this shit from a pre-prepared script. I wonder how long she sat in front of her Barbie mirror at home the night before, rehearsing this gibberish?]
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And neither was this, right?:rr165892 said:I should have known being friendly and joking would be frowned on on a PJ fan forum. It was not personal at all,nor was it degrading.
rr165892 said:Btw,I told you Byrnzie is a machine and no one can post more links then him.So why try and add to the redundancy .
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No. Actually, that's the playbook. You go search through some guardian links and find me the links to the above on fox or cnn. Go...Byrnzie said:
Is that what your television told you?PhillyCrownOfThorns said:It's ok... The world will wait until Hamas captures a couple of soldiers. The prisoner exchange typically matches the casualty ratio. And so it continues...
9.29.96, 8.28.98, 9.1.00, 7.5.03, 9.30.05, 6.1.06, 6.19.08, 6.20.08, 6.24.08, 10.27.09, 10.28.09, 10.30.09, 5.20.10, 9.3.11, 9.4.11, 9.2.12, 7.19.13...
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Awesome ceremony and declaration. Where is the government? It's war, and the gov't is nowhere! Disgusting form of leadership.mickeyrat said:
sounds entirely reasonable to me.Byrnzie said:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/palestinian-unity-government-sworn-in-fatah-hamas
Palestinian unity government of Fatah and Hamas sworn in
Ceremony paves way for long-delayed elections in Gaza and West Bank, but US expresses concern about role of Hamas
2 June 2014
The ministers and prime minister of the new Palestinian unity government swear in front of the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, in Ramallah.
After seven years of a bitter and at times lethalrivalry between the two main Palestinian factions, Fatah and Hamas, a historic Palestinian unity government has been sworn in , ending years of division.
The signing ceremony, which seems likely to complicate relations with the Palestinian Authority's international aid donors in Europe and the US and increase tensions with Israel, was broadcast live in Gaza and the West Bank.
Despite the US secretary of state, John Kerry, telephoning the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to express "concern about Hamas's role in any such government" ahead of the ceremony, the US said on Monday night that it would work with the new government but that it would be "watching closely to ensure that it upholds principles that President Abbas reiterated today", State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.
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http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/report-israel-conditions.html
Hamas offers Israel 10 conditions for a 10 year truce
Ira Glunts on July 16, 2014 86
Hamas is offering Israel a 10-year truce if it accepts 10 conditions.
Withdrawal of Israeli tanks from the Gaza border.
Freeing all the prisoners that were arrested after the killing of the three youths.
Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people.
Establishing an international seaport and airport which would be under U.N. supervision.
Increasing the permitted fishing zone to 10 kilometers.
Internationalizing the Rafah Crossing and placing it under the supervision of the U.N. and some Arab nations.
International forces on the borders.
Easing conditions for permits to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque.
Prohibition on Israeli interference in the reconciliation agreement.
Reestablishing an industrial zone and improvements in further economic development in the Gaza Strip.
10 points are a good start… Israel has a laundry list as well. Let's go!9.29.96, 8.28.98, 9.1.00, 7.5.03, 9.30.05, 6.1.06, 6.19.08, 6.20.08, 6.24.08, 10.27.09, 10.28.09, 10.30.09, 5.20.10, 9.3.11, 9.4.11, 9.2.12, 7.19.13...
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Hahahahaha being friendly??? That's what u call it? Damn bro, we had u all wrong? You were reaching out with an olive branch this whole time? Fuck bro, my bad.rr165892 said:
Yeah,I should have known being friendly and joking would be frowned on on a PJ fan forum.Byrnzie quotes himself in his signature.and seems like a bright guy,I thought maybe he was an author.So I checked and posted what came up.It was not personal at all,nor was it degrading.badbrains said:
And what does byrnzie's urban dictionary name thing u posted have to do with what he's reporting??? See, you're a fucken troll and a shitty one at that.rr165892 said:
You are ragging on how someone looks and sounds now?,what does her "Barbie"looks have to do with anything she's reporting.Byrnzie said:
Seriously though, did you really get all of your 'information' about this massacre from watching Fox news?WMAmorican said:To deliberately wage war so your own people are killed is moral insanity, but it rests on a sickly rational premise: Given the way the world treats Israel, along with historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the supposed underdog, Palestinian casualties undermine Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense. So Hamas’ depravity sort of makes evil sense. All the morons condemn Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years yet goes to extraordinary lengths to AVOID harming the innocents its enemies use as shields.
It’s really to the Israelis’ credit that amid all this madness they don't just bomb the living fuck out of all their neighbors that want to eradicate them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CptntFpme7Y
Watching this bullshit really is an eye-opener. Propaganda in full effect. And Americans thought that the Soviets had it bad? At least the Russians knew they were being lied to. How many Americans sit blinking in front of their t.v sets swallowing this shit whole? She sounds like some dizzy school girl from Beverly Hills 90210.
"There are several reasons why Americans should care very deeply about this current conflict. And number one because of 9/11. Because Hamas and Al Queda are the same types of Islamic terrorist groups that are theologically motivated with the goal of destroying the West...Hamas is attacking Israel because it sees Israel as the outpost of the West in the Middle East, and it knows that if we abandon Israel, if we allow Israel to be destroyed, then we are next, and it can destroy us."
[Notice how she keeps having to look down at the paper on the desk in front of her. Yet she pretends that she isn't reading this shit from a pre-prepared script. I wonder how long she sat in front of her Barbie mirror at home the night before, rehearsing this gibberish?]
You guys are classic
Anyone else thinks it's a bit creepy and ODD that RR googled the word "byrnzie" in the urban dictionary? What's with your fascination with byrnzie? And usually when someone jokes, people laugh WITH the person NOT AT the PERSON.0 -
If you think that's a personal shot I don't know what to tell u.It was a compliment on your research ability.SmhByrnzie said:
And neither was this, right?:rr165892 said:I should have known being friendly and joking would be frowned on on a PJ fan forum. It was not personal at all,nor was it degrading.
rr165892 said:Btw,I told you Byrnzie is a machine and no one can post more links then him.So why try and add to the redundancy .
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They have never accomplished a thing together in the past and present (6 weeks). And I have seen no reason to believe that said unity government is able to make leadership decisions for the people of Gaza.Byrnzie said:Clearly a unified Palestinian government was unacceptable to the Israeli's, as it represented a serious threat to their maintaining of the status quo - occupation, and continued settlement expansion - so they needed a pretext for trying to destroy it.
Unfortunately some people actually believe the bullshit they're spoon-fed by the glossy lipped bimbo's on Fox News, and think that Hamas are responsible for being bombed, and for Palestinian women and children being blown to pieces, and that Israel is now defending itself from the threat of extinction.
Welcome to the 21st Century.9.29.96, 8.28.98, 9.1.00, 7.5.03, 9.30.05, 6.1.06, 6.19.08, 6.20.08, 6.24.08, 10.27.09, 10.28.09, 10.30.09, 5.20.10, 9.3.11, 9.4.11, 9.2.12, 7.19.13...
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Maybe you were too busy trying to be clever that you didn't notice Gaza has been under intense aerial bombardment for the past week.PhillyCrownOfThorns said:Where is the government? It's war, and the gov't is nowhere! Disgusting form of leadership.
In the meantime, some Hamas representatives in surrounding states have been putting forth ceasefire proposals like the one I just showed you.
The ceasefire agreement presented a couple of days ago by the Israeli's was redundant from the outset, as Hamas weren't even consulted on it.
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And what has the Israeli government accomplished in the past 60+ Years for bringing peace to it's citizens?PhillyCrownOfThorns said:
They have never accomplished a thing together in the past and present (6 weeks). And I have seen no reason to believe that said unity government is able to make leadership decisions for the people of Gaza.Byrnzie said:Clearly a unified Palestinian government was unacceptable to the Israeli's, as it represented a serious threat to their maintaining of the status quo - occupation, and continued settlement expansion - so they needed a pretext for trying to destroy it.
Unfortunately some people actually believe the bullshit they're spoon-fed by the glossy lipped bimbo's on Fox News, and think that Hamas are responsible for being bombed, and for Palestinian women and children being blown to pieces, and that Israel is now defending itself from the threat of extinction.
Welcome to the 21st Century.0 -
Badbrains you and Byrnzie have no intention of discussing this issue like mature adults.You have stooped to personal attacks calling me a fucking clown and a fucking troll.While hypocritically saying I should be respectful.If I made fun of a middle eastern news reporters looks or stereotyped her like Byrnzie did to the fox reporter you "gentlemen" would call me a Rascist .Philly asks some good questions and you blame him for trying to be clever.You guys have not answered any question,not one without asking one in return.When someone does go in depth and answer one of your many questions you guys dismiss it or ignore it all together.You folks have missed the spirt of these fan boards and should take your only pro Palestinian rhetoric to other sites where you can all be amongst like minded people.You won't have to worry about us clown like Americans questioning you and your opinion0
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So what? Are you gonna try and pretend that you've been following the political developments of the unity government since it's inception? Because you didn't even know that there was a unity government until I told you yesterday.PhillyCrownOfThorns said:I have seen no reason to believe that said unity government is able to make leadership decisions for the people of Gaza.
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Priceless.rr165892 said:Badbrains you and Byrnzie have no intention of discussing this issue like mature adults.
rr165892 said:Byrnzie,your a fucking machine,I will give you that.You must have an anti Israel data base like a encyclopedia.Google must pay you for your visits.Correct me if I'm wrong(I know you will and think I am)But its not just Israel that wants Hamas out.All the moderate surrounding Arab states do.Your clinging to a sinking ship getting into bed with them.You guys can do better for representation.
rr165892 said:Byrnzie,Im sorry to add a small amount of humor to a horrible situation,but I ran across this on the new urban dictionary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=byrnzie
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Keep the personal comments coming. You may succeed in getting this thread closed like you did the last one.0
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What's your point,clearly you can see it is all in jest.Post edited by rr165892 on0
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I can't enlighten you. Sure, I could Google Palestinian terrorism towards Israel and post it here, but that is useless because you will say the source isn't credible or that somehow Israel did something first.Byrnzie said:
Fault or blame for what? The occupation? Great, then go ahead and enlighten me as to how the Palestinians are at fault for being ethnically cleansed, and routinely terrorized.Last-12-Exit said:First of all, wow, you did what most news organizations do taking half of what I said out and editing it to prove your point. I'm aware that there were agreements in the past and most of them were broken by the Israelis. Secondly, what the point of the first paragraph in my post was that I haven't seen you write a post that puts any fault or blame on the Palestinians.
Are you saying that no blame lies in the Palestinian side? That Israel is 100% at fault? I'm in full support for Palestine here Byrnzie, but it's that attitude that prevents any forward progress towards a permanent peace.0 -
Actually there was also a very strongly worded final post by someone else that pushed it over the edge0
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You know there's an occupation, right? You know that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian land, and has been slowly but surely stealing more and more of that land, and subjecting the Palestinian people to daily humiliations, beatings, torture, house demolitions, military incursions, and extra-judicial assassinations, right? But you want to try and pretend that the Palestinian are somehow to blame for this? Go ahead then. Explain to me how those under occupation are responsible for being occupied.Last-12-Exit said:I could Google Palestinian terrorism towards Israel and post it here, but that is useless because you will say the source isn't credible or that somehow Israel did something first.
Are you saying that no blame lies in the Palestinian side? That Israel is 100% at fault
Do you think that Palestinian suicide attacks are the cause of the occupation and land-grab?
Do you think that rocket attacks are the cause of the occupation and land-grab?
Were the Jews partly responsible for being sent to the gas chambers during WWII? I mean, there were many Jewish partisan groups active during the war that killed Germans. So was the holocaust partly their fault?
Please explain to me how those under occupation are responsible for being occupied.
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Please, when you quote my posts, quote all of it. Because what happens is you take the entire post out of context. Addressing portions of the post does no good when the main idea is omitted and not addressed.0
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Of course the Palestinians are to blame for being occupied. They're also to blame for being dispossessed of their land in 1948, and ethnically cleansed. And they're to blame for having Jewish-only illegal settlements built on their land. Until the Palestinians do as the Israeli's want and lie down and die, then they will always be to blame. The Palestinians are fighting to hold onto the 20% of their homeland that remains to them. But of course they're to blame for being routinely attacked by settler groups, bombed, bulldozed, and otherwise humiliated on an almost daily basis. And they're also to blame when Israeli snipers murder their children - on average, one Palestinian child killed by the Israeli's every three days for the past 13 years.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n16/henry-siegman/the-great-middle-east-peace-process-scam
'...the Palestinians made much the most far-reaching compromise of all when the PLO formally accepted the legitimacy of Israel within the 1949 armistice border. With that concession, Palestinians ceded their claim to more than half the territory that the UN’s partition resolution had assigned to its Arab inhabitants. They have never received any credit for this wrenching concession, made years before Israel agreed that Palestinians had a right to statehood in any part of Palestine. The notion that further border adjustments should be made at the expense of the 22 per cent of the territory that remains to the Palestinians is deeply offensive to them, and understandably so.
Nonetheless, the Palestinians agreed at the Camp David summit to adjustments to the pre-1967 border that would allow large numbers of West Bank settlers – about 70 per cent – to remain within the Jewish state, provided they received comparable territory on Israel’s side of the border. Barak rejected this.'0
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