This has to stop

I suppose the big question is......what did everyone do before the 'list' started getting used 2 years ago? Oh that's right, they queued like everyone else.

Big Bank Hank said:

LMAO

strummers said:

We can all have a great day, just play fair! I've met some amazing people in queues before (yes, even with lists!) who are now good friends. It can be a very positive experience!

Let's leave it on that note as I think the discussion aspect has ran its course.

Follow the 10c etiquette, be fair, be happy, have fun and get to know your queue neighbours!

You are absolutely right Theresa. Those who go off overnight really suck and their rules allowing that are shite.

But the list is as you and Su May point out when correctly used is very useful when the queue area isn't organized and people gather out of the rain and under a cover. Or when people are moved from a to b when the organization comes later in the day.

The frustrating part is that most comments are from people who haven't done the queuing this year

Think most people have the etiquette and decency required. Sadly those who draw a number on the night before and go and sleep - I heard this was the case in Vienna - are ruining the perception entirely. It's a small few who need to look at themselves.

To think tenc need to come and police a group of grown ups to avoid fights is crazy.

If people leave the queue for more than 20 minutes even overnight if they are stupid enough to sleep on the pavement, should really move to the back. Other than that the list is functioning great.

I don't have to have been in a line this year to know that a list goes against the spirit of GA. I can't fathom why anyone would defend a list. If you can't wait then you should be further back.

badbrains said:

pdalowsky said:

Oh and the suggestions of their being a blow up and violence are way off mark. I've only done two shows ... And whilst people have disagreed at times they have done so very maturely. Spoke to each other and remained calm at all times. Aggression hasn't been remotely close at any time.

That is a major over reaction to third hand Internet information and observations. People at these shows tend to be good people and adults. Fighting isn't close to the agenda. So please knock that on the head. There is a little sentiment coming through in posts about 'when I go to my show people better get ready because no one fucks with me'. ... Lets not forget that is mostly a reaction to something they have read about and haven't yet seen .... I dare say its easy to post on the Internet such things. But when they arrive early to take a spot and observe the line and their position I very much doubt that that fire within will continue to burn.

But till then this is a symptom of negativity breeding difficulty.

Sorry buddy, but NO list means NO issue. Without this corny ass list, none of us would be having this discussion. I'm not calling you out and not trying to get confrontational with you Pdalowsky, it's that we're having a problem with people abusing it and so hense we should just end the practice. People want rail, like EVERYONE else has ALREADY said, get in line and put in your time.

I was at Amsterdam both nites. When I got there, there was probably 20-25 people there. While I was waiting in line for my tix, I saw groups of people coming in and basically cutting people in line. Ironic that they all showed up around the same time as if they were all somewhere and left that place together.

No list, no problem. Simple as that.

No problem at all, it's cool to voice your personal experience - completely. I heard the ticket office was a nightmare in Amsterdam - I can't imagine how without numbers that would have worked out

I appreciate the system isn't perfect because people leave for extended periods but the same thing happened in 2007 with people joining the lines at wembley. Arguments went off and people got pissed. There was no list - but there were issues. People will always be people

Come Leeds Ill queue the proper way ...but ill get a number - I don't understand why people wouldn't want to get one if they are there to say get number 40 or 50. Take the number and sit down. The most people in front of you on that basis will be 39 or 49 whether they are there in person or not. That's the rail. It just baffles me.

Dr. Delight said:

Posted on FB...anyone confirm if this is legit?

Seems pretty fake to me.

strummers said:

PJ_Soul said:

BRAIN0FJAY said:

If the list does appear in Cincinnati, it sounds like my GA experience should/could be entertaining...interesting...a learning experience, perhaps. ~X(

Only if you are set on getting the rail. To me, that really doesn't seem worth it if you can be only 3 or 4 feet further back without dealing with that bullshit. The view is just as good and you're not stuck with the list losers on the rail for the whole show!

Not if you're 5'2"!!

Or a little less than that.

Sounds pretty legit to me