Just a stupid number attached to a milestone in that Kurt Cobain passed away 20 years ago to the day on April 5th. But with each passing year it just makes me wonder more what could have been…
Poor guy, just another reason why you should't marry a stripper. At least Dave managed to salvage a career out of being in Nirvana. Reading the Everett True biography I have a hard time thing Kurt would be suicidal but stranger things have happened, but it just doesn't seem like a guy that was that aware of his worth would have ended it all, but Heroin is a strange beast so maybe he did.
Pouring one out for Kurt, but still can't help but think, don't marry a stripper...
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Just a stupid number attached to a milestone in that Kurt Cobain passed away 20 years ago to the day on April 5th. But with each passing year it just makes me wonder more what could have been…
I like Nirvana, but the band is so overrated and so is Kurt. I think it's ridiculous that people look at guys like him as heroes. Him and his wife were clearly junkies whose lives were an absolute mess. I don't think that's iconic at all, and it's a shame that he gets more attention and credit than others who make better music and keep their lives together and don't make fools out of themselves.
Are you joking? If you're one of those that think Courtney planned the entire thing...does she look like someone who is intelligent enough to mastermind a full-proof plan to have her celebrity husband murdered and get away with it? End of story right there.
I am (was) a pretty big fan of Nirvana but it is often ignored that they were on the decline in 1993/4 ...In Utero wasn't that well received immediately and his behaviour was bigger news than the music itself. It was only after KC's death that the band was "re-glorified" and all of a sudden they (and In Utero) were immortalized.
I like Nirvana, but the band is so overrated and so is Kurt. I think it's ridiculous that people look at guys like him as heroes. Him and his wife were clearly junkies whose lives were an absolute mess. I don't think that's iconic at all, and it's a shame that he gets more attention and credit than others who make better music and keep their lives together and don't make fools out of themselves.
As harsh as this sounds... 100% spot on and my take on Kurt.
I am (was) a pretty big fan of Nirvana but it is often ignored that they were on the decline in 1993/4 ...In Utero wasn't that well received immediately and he behaviour was bigger news than the music itself. It was only after KC's death that the band was "re-glorified" and all of a sudden they (and In Utero) was immortalized.
It would be interesting to think about how long Nirvana would have stuck around if it weren't for Kurt's death. Imagine the same situation happening to Pearl Jam after No Code? People would said they were done anyways, the album was not well received and maybe it was the beginning of the end for PJ. And here we are all these years later...
I thought IN Utero was very raw sounding and their best album. Nirvana was only getting better. I thought the music and lyrics were amazing and coming from a hardcore/punk background this was right up my alley.
I totally see how people didn't care for them or thought they were overrated. It's not for everyone.
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I can only imagine what could have been. Sad. But at least, we have Bleach, Nevermind, and In Utero. Oh, let's not forget the truly classic Unplugged Album too. R.I.P Kurt.
I wonder if people realize what Nevermind did to rock n roll. If anyone can recall the overnight takedown of Michael Jackson's Dangerous album to #1 on the Billboard charts. A completely new genre of rock was born. It is easy to dismiss Kurt because he was a junkie, but he was accomplished regardless.
I like Nirvana, but the band is so overrated and so is Kurt. I think it's ridiculous that people look at guys like him as heroes. Him and his wife were clearly junkies whose lives were an absolute mess. I don't think that's iconic at all, and it's a shame that he gets more attention and credit than others who make better music and keep their lives together and don't make fools out of themselves.
Wow man, have some compassion. Drug abuse is a disease, not something to judge someone on. Get off your high horse. Judge him on his music, anything else is none of your business.
I thought IN Utero was very raw sounding and their best album. Nirvana was only getting better. I thought the music and lyrics were amazing and coming from a hardcore/punk background this was right up my alley.
I totally see how people didn't care for them or thought they were overrated. It's not for everyone.
It is indeed a good album - a great album, in fact that, imo, is better than Nevermind. I was simply stating that it wasn't getting very favourable reviews (especially compared to Vs) in some circles but when KC died it seemed the media jumped on the bandwagon and turned him into a demi-god.
I like Nirvana, but the band is so overrated and so is Kurt. I think it's ridiculous that people look at guys like him as heroes. Him and his wife were clearly junkies whose lives were an absolute mess. I don't think that's iconic at all, and it's a shame that he gets more attention and credit than others who make better music and keep their lives together and don't make fools out of themselves.
As harsh as this sounds... 100% spot on and my take on Kurt.
Agreed. Sounds very harsh but I really couldn't agree more with this.
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It would be interesting to think about how long Nirvana would have stuck around if it weren't for Kurt's death.
I cant imagine Dave would have spent many more years behind the drum kit playing Kurt's songs. Hes too talented, and even if Kurt lived that solo Foo release would have eventually happened. Maybe later than 1995, but not much.
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I thought IN Utero was very raw sounding and their best album. Nirvana was only getting better. I thought the music and lyrics were amazing and coming from a hardcore/punk background this was right up my alley.
I totally see how people didn't care for them or thought they were overrated. It's not for everyone.
It is indeed a good album - a great album, in fact that, imo, is better than Nevermind. I was simply stating that it wasn't getting very favourable reviews (especially compared to Vs) in some circles but when KC died it seemed the media jumped on the bandwagon and turned him into a demi-god.
People can call Kurt and Nirvana overrated all they like, but no single band has shaken up the status quo quite like they did in the twenty plus years since they made it big.
Hard to believe it's been twenty years, still tough to listen to Nirvana's music without an overwhelming feeling of sadness, but listening to Nevermind right now it pretty much epitomizes the word 'classic'.
Yup. People always forget pj was the much bigger band at the time. I mean look at the sales of vs compared to in utero (especially the first week)
Bigger band in terms of sales yes, but I thought In Utero was light years ahead of what Pearl Jam was doing at the time musically. This is just my personal opinion so don't try to prove me otherwise.I am obviously a huge Pearl Jam fan but I find "In Utero" musically much more interesting than "Vs." or "Vitalogy". That being said, I think PJ really didn't get rolling until 1995ish and are better than ever these days.
The 2013 Mix of "In Utero" on vinyl sounds awesome btw. Analog cut at 45rpm.
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I know this sounds cliche, but this band truly changed my direction and outlook in and of music at 14, 15 years old. And I haven't looked back since.
Same here. I was already into Alice in Chains thanks to We Die Young but Nevermind was the defining point where a lot of the 80's music started sounding somewhat lame. Over the years I have gravitated back to some of it out of nostalgia but I was not the same so nor was it to me. Incesticide was and still is amazing. Better than Lost Dogs. I think Dave would have left shortly no matter what but I loved the direction the band was going with when they recorded In Utero. They were still figuring out how to mix their music desires with the industries desire. Sadly he wasn't able to handle all that happened between success and the drug addiction so we never will get to hear it. Death did help build his legacy but that doesnt take from what they did or how important they were to music.
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I'm not sure if the Foo Fighters would have even got off the ground if Kurt was still around. I love Nirvana and what they did for rock music. But Foo Fighters are 10 times the band Nirvana ever was. Would die to hear Dave sing a Nirvana song one day.
yeah they shook the world and that's great, but the quality of music just wasn't there. Creativity and originality, yes, but not quality. I doubt anyone here would try to equate the musical talents of kris with jeff, or of kurt with eddie or stone.
I don't know how long they would have held it together if Kurt hadn't died. Nirvana was amazing and different that will never change. They can't really be compared to PJ and all that they have done, and done for us. But their music at the time was the best thing that happened to rock for a while and for that I will always like their raw sound and shitty clothes.
yeah they shook the world and that's great, but the quality of music just wasn't there. Creativity and originality, yes, but not quality. I doubt anyone here would try to equate the musical talents of kris with jeff, or of kurt with eddie or stone.
If you mean by technical playing, then maybe you are correct. But technical playing isn't everything. That is not a measure of total musicality. There should be a base competency but after that it's all subjective. So, I think there are plenty of people that would equate the talents of Krist with Jeff or Kurt with Eddie. Also, I'm sure Eddie would love it if you went up to him and told him that he was straight up a better musician than Kurt.
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Yup. People always forget pj was the much bigger band at the time. I mean look at the sales of vs compared to in utero (especially the first week)
Bigger band in terms of sales yes, but I thought In Utero was light years ahead of what Pearl Jam was doing at the time musically. This is just my personal opinion so don't try to prove me otherwise.I am obviously a huge Pearl Jam fan but I find "In Utero" musically much more interesting than "Vs." or "Vitalogy". That being said, I think PJ really didn't get rolling until 1995ish and are better than ever these days.
The 2013 Mix of "In Utero" on vinyl sounds awesome btw. Analog cut at 45rpm.
Totally agree that in utero was better than vs. I think in utero was nirvana s no code.
Nirvana was a ground breaking band and they changed the landscape of rock music in the early 90s. This is my collection, it's probably not much, but the music has always meant something to me.
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Pouring one out for Kurt, but still can't help but think, don't marry a stripper...
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I totally see how people didn't care for them or thought they were overrated. It's not for everyone.
It is easy to dismiss Kurt because he was a junkie, but he was accomplished regardless.
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Hard to believe it's been twenty years, still tough to listen to Nirvana's music without an overwhelming feeling of sadness, but listening to Nevermind right now it pretty much epitomizes the word 'classic'.
The 2013 Mix of "In Utero" on vinyl sounds awesome btw. Analog cut at 45rpm.
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