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"Not a pity party - I feel more fortunate than so many. And many people feel the impact from tragedies that happen nowhere near them. But guess what, my kids, in our very suburban, "normal" school district have known the "run to and crouch down in the inside corner of the classroom away from windows" routine since they were 4. Man, they really have it down! Makes a parent so proud! Columbine is in our school district - that was a bummer. But the much less famous Deer Creek MS, Platte Canyon HS, and Arapahoe HS shootings were also in our district or immediately adjacent. Never mind that one of my sons happened to be at a movie theatre about 12 miles away from Holmes the night he was opening fire on movie-goers in Aurora - won't even go there. Have a kid and figure that one out for yourself, asshole."
Well I guess since I'm apparently an asshole, here we go... Maybe since all this is happening in your close district, you residents need to figure out what in the community is the issue? I can't blame an inanimate object that requires a person to use as the problem. If your community constantly seems to have to deal with these issues, I'd look into the why's of these events. Why are there so many people in your community willing to get a gun and shoot people? I'm so sure that once guns get banned, your community will never have an issue again... Because it's the gun... Now you can call me an asshole.0 -
It's just like being downtown in most urban areas.rgambs said:
apparently you havn't been to one recently. It's not about judging the way people look, it's about observing the way they behave. Crazies muttering to themselves, children running amok, people who can't manage basic hygeine...Doesn't exactly inspire confidence!
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487jmuscatello said:
Keep your precious 2nd Amendment rights but consider limitations and regulations. Really. That's so illogical?
Rights, by definition are not limited and regulated. Privileges are.
Next time you feel the need to restrict MY rights how about I get to restrict yours and ban you from being able to post your opinion online. Maybe someone feels that it is reckless and it hurts their feelings. We can't have people getting their feelings hurt, can we?
How about I get to determine what kind of car you get to buy because I don't feel that you need one for whatever random knee-jerk reaction I feel like using? How about I get to give you one of those old brick cellphones because you don't need a smart phone? Maybe I think your TV is too big so I should be able to restrict that too.
Rights are not determined by you or I or any government. Rights are not limited or regulated. So no, I won't consider that.
I believe that there should be steps to ensure that bad guys cannot hurt good guys. However how many more laws will it take to stop gang shootings in Chicago?
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Okay, I won't call you an asshole anymore, I'll just think it.
Again I'd say you sound naïve to me. I think it's just wonderful you're so proud of living in Houston - I wouldn't trade with you for anything - but I don't think your community and your schools are immune to gun violence. I don't know what you're picturing, but ours is a high-performing district with nationally-ranked high schools. Guess what, it can happen anywhere. What a great suggestion that we residents should figure out what in the community is the issue - we never thought about that! I think by the examples I've given you might notice the trend of mentally ill people getting guns so easily, in 3 of the 4 cases the shooters were young adults with no violent criminal background at all. The older Platte Canyon shooter was arrested 2 months before he attacked the kids there, and once he bonded out the police gave him his gun back. He owned 15 guns though, so maybe that one wasn't such a big deal.
But for school shootings, here's an idea: raise the minimum age to legally purchase a long gun from 18 to 21. There are so many studies out there showing that most mental illness presents in that 18-24 age range, rarely earlier than 14-16. The minimum age to purchase alcohol was raised to keep it out of high schools, but roughly half of US high seniors can go buy a shotgun, with - at most - a 60 sec instant check. No cooling off period, no parental consent. So when a kid gets pissed at his debate coach, he can just buy a gun and all the ammo he wants and go shoot up his school. The Columbine kids got their guns illegally, granted - but since then schools have put a lot of threat assessment procedures in place, and there is a good chance the asking-around to find guns may have tipped someone off to a problem. At least it took them months to carry out their plan. Combined with the threat assessment efforts, I honestly believe that raising the minimum purchase age would make schools safer.
I know you'll say that statistically a minimum age change would do no good, but statistics support this. A disproportionate percentage of gun-related homicide and violent crimes occur in the 18-24 age group. From the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a survey of convicted gun offenders in 13 states showed that nearly a quarter of them would have been legally prohibited from obtaining firearms if the minimum legal age was raised to 21.
But for you, the solution is to do nothing? Because you don't see it as a statistically significant problem in your community? Well, your .0002 gun homicide statistic doesn't include, for example, the 2 students shot at Deer Creek MS, because they weren't actually killed....Post edited by jmuscatello on0 -
and with this, you really did prove your last point perfectlymattsl1983 said:
Well I guess since I'm apparently an asshole, here we go... Maybe since all this is happening in your close district, you residents need to figure out what in the community is the issue? I can't blame an inanimate object that requires a person to use as the problem. If your community constantly seems to have to deal with these issues, I'd look into the why's of these events. Why are there so many people in your community willing to get a gun and shoot people? I'm so sure that once guns get banned, your community will never have an issue again... Because it's the gun... Now you can call me an asshole.
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Hey Matt, I think Cosmo only brought up Walmart because it certainly does have a reputation. I certainly avoid the place because of people's behavior there.
Lol Check out this article I just saw:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ap/strange/nc-police-seek-man-who-sucked-toes-at-wal-mart/nfHZ2/
The Associated Press
LINCOLNTON, N.C. — "Police say a man in North Carolina sucked a woman's toes at a Wal-Mart after he convinced her he was a podiatry student and persuaded her to take off her shoes.
Detective Dennis Harris said the woman agreed to try on several pairs of shoes at the discount store in Lincolnton, and that at some point during the process, the man stuck her foot in his mouth. Harris said the man apparently tried the same thing at another Wal-Mart 15 miles away, where he told a woman he was conducting a survey on the feet of different races and nationalities.
The second woman also agreed to take off her shoes, but left when the suspect asked her to remove her socks.
Both confrontations happened Monday. Police are looking for the man."Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
Jmus, I don't think you comprehended anything I said. Please tell me at what point I said I was proud to live in Houston? Please tell me where my solution is to do nothing? I could easily pick apart your comment, but I'm not going to. How about you just keep on keepin on your way, and I'll go mine. Your inability to sit at the grownups table has resorted in name calling, assumptions being used, and a lack of facts, and that really just doesn't make for a good discussion. I'm just going to ignore any of your comments on this thread.0
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...mattsl1983 said:And as for the Walmart comment, are you implying that you judge people on looks, or that they shop at Walmart, or both? I personally think that was a very tasteless off base comment.
Have you BEEN to a Wal-Mart?
(and yes... it is a joke. I'm not politically correct... maybe I should be... but, I'm not)
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Anyway, the point was to go to the Wal-Mart... Actually, go ANYWHERE, U.S.A. where there is a large crowd of people... a Costco, Mardi Gras, a Swap Meet, the Mall, the freeway, Disneyland, a Pearl Jam concert and tell me if you would feel safer if everyone there was carrying a loaded gun.
I'm saying... I wouldn't feel safer.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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I understand the whole some people at Walmart are weird and different from you and I, but I don't think that necessarily means they are more likely to get a gun and shoot people. That's pretty disgusting about the toes though.JonnyPistachio said:Hey Matt, I think Cosmo only brought up Walmart because it certainly does have a reputation. I certainly avoid the place because of people's behavior there.
Lol Check out this article I just saw:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ap/strange/nc-police-seek-man-who-sucked-toes-at-wal-mart/nfHZ2/
The Associated Press
LINCOLNTON, N.C. — "Police say a man in North Carolina sucked a woman's toes at a Wal-Mart after he convinced her he was a podiatry student and persuaded her to take off her shoes.
Detective Dennis Harris said the woman agreed to try on several pairs of shoes at the discount store in Lincolnton, and that at some point during the process, the man stuck her foot in his mouth. Harris said the man apparently tried the same thing at another Wal-Mart 15 miles away, where he told a woman he was conducting a survey on the feet of different races and nationalities.
The second woman also agreed to take off her shoes, but left when the suspect asked her to remove her socks.
Both confrontations happened Monday. Police are looking for the man."
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I agree with you. I'm not trying to arm every citizen, but a real solution hasn't been proposed yet. I'm all for background checks on every type of fire arm. I don't think registering will make any difference. I'm all for keeping the mentally ill from being able to legally purchase a fire arm. But how do we do that? Will we need to get cleared by a psychiatrist in order to buy a fire arm? Is that a possible solution moving forward? What do we do about the guns that are already out there? The proposed solutions so far is what i disagree with.Cosmo said:
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Have you BEEN to a Wal-Mart?
(and yes... it is a joke. I'm not politically correct... maybe I should be... but, I'm not)
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Anyway, the point was to go to the Wal-Mart... Actually, go ANYWHERE, U.S.A. where there is a large crowd of people... a Costco, Mardi Gras, a Swap Meet, the Mall, the freeway, Disneyland, a Pearl Jam concert and tell me if you would feel safer if everyone there was carrying a loaded gun.
I'm saying... I wouldn't feel safer.0 -
I agree with you Matt, that the solution isnt obvious. I just think most people arguing against guns in here are saying we have to try something new. Personlly, I wish we'd try something new, but I wasnt kidding earlier when I said I think it might be too late. But here's something to think on -- The shooting of Gabrielle Giffords -- someone tackled that shooter when he was reloading or exchanging magazines. Personally, I think limits on magazines could slow down some people on mass shooting sprees. I know these are tiny fractions of offenders, but if I were a gun owner, I wouldnt see it as too much too ask that I reload a few extra times at the range. It might not make much of a difference, but it just may save a few people on the next mass shooting. Its just an idea.mattsl1983 said:
I agree with you. I'm not trying to arm every citizen, but a real solution hasn't been proposed yet. I'm all for background checks on every type of fire arm. I don't think registering will make any difference. I'm all for keeping the mentally ill from being able to legally purchase a fire arm. But how do we do that? Will we need to get cleared by a psychiatrist in order to buy a fire arm? Is that a possible solution moving forward? What do we do about the guns that are already out there? The proposed solutions so far is what i disagree with.Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0 -
Keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.... wouldn't raising the minimum age from 18 for purchase or even possession help, considering the 18-21 age group is more at risk for undiagnosed mental illness than any other? And the 18-24 age group commits more violent crime in the US than any other? Isn't that worth looking into?
And I'm seeing so much fairness and wisdom at the grownups' table, mattl1983, I'm so hurt you don't want me to stay. Like suggesting that those of us who support some amount of gun control do so because we think that guns cause violence. That's a beauty. In all the posts I've ever read on this forum I've never seen any of us suggest that guns are causing the violence.
But I do agree with you, let's ignore each other completely.Post edited by jmuscatello on0 -
...mattsl1983 said:
I agree with you. I'm not trying to arm every citizen, but a real solution hasn't been proposed yet. I'm all for background checks on every type of fire arm. I don't think registering will make any difference. I'm all for keeping the mentally ill from being able to legally purchase a fire arm. But how do we do that? Will we need to get cleared by a psychiatrist in order to buy a fire arm? Is that a possible solution moving forward? What do we do about the guns that are already out there? The proposed solutions so far is what i disagree with.
The point i'm making is to punch holes in the logic of the NRA leadership and Gun Advocates that claim more guns mean safer streets. That would work only if all of the citizens involved were clones and equals. That is not the case in the U.S. right now.
And you ask the million dollar question... How do we keep the guns out of the hands of people like James Holmes, Adam Landza and that old guy that shot the movie texter... without stomping on the Bill Of Rights?
I don't know the answers... but, I do know that the background checks are failing us when James Holmes can leagally obtain the firepower he possessed.
All i know is what we currently have in place isn't working. Doing nothing fixes nothing. Putting more guns out there will, more than likely, make matters worse.
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Maybe, closing the loopholes, such as placing the same restrictions on private party gun sales as we have on licensed gun dealers might help. We make parties responsible whenever we transfer the titles of our cars and houses... whether you buy from a dealer or developer or you buy from a private party. Why not do the same with guns?
Again... i don't have the answers.
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The logic that more guns equal less crime is actually a wash. I've found multiple reports that swing either way on the matter. Some will say that according to their studies more guns equal more violence, others will state the opposite. Without digging to deep on it and spending a bunch of time going through the different conflicting reports, I just take it as a wash for right now. Maybe tomorrow I'll get bored and start looking into it further.0
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"All i know is what we currently have in place isn't working. Doing nothing fixes nothing. Putting more guns out there will, more than likely, make matters worse.
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Maybe, closing the loopholes, such as placing the same restrictions on private party gun sales as we have on licensed gun dealers might help. We make parties responsible whenever we transfer the titles of our cars and houses... whether you buy from a dealer or developer or you buy from a private party. Why not do the same with guns?
Again... i don't have the answers."
Cosmo, I'm with you on this. What would be the downside of going this route?
Also made me think as I watched yet another fucking pill-for-whatever-ails-you commercial - what about those who take medicine that has side-effects mimicking mental illness? And worse?
Lastly - unless I missed something, doesn't seem like matts' comments warranted an asshole label earlier in the thread.0 -
Disingenuous at its worst. "The logic"? Who's logic? And then to follow up with, "when I get around to it, I'll let you know." Lazy. Make a claim such as, "others will state the opposite." Post a link, cite the source. You've seen links for the opposite side of your argument. But maybe, when you can get around to it, you'll post links to yours. Yea, we know, the carnage is statistically insignificant to YOU. Wouldn't want to spend too much time on it, you have other things to do, I guess we should stop wasting your time with our concerns? Your post above is exactly what ails this country. Too lazy to care, doesn't affect me and the problem on its face is so insurmountable, there is no logical, fact based way to lessen, resolve, limit, the carnage. I'm so glad you've given up on (the) US. Nice. And "actually?" Really, have any sources you'd you like to site that back that claim up? More guns don't equate to more gun deaths? Hmmm, looking forward to seeing those sources so we can at least have an honest debate here. Go ahead, tell me to fire up the Google machine.mattsl1983 said:The logic that more guns equal less crime is actually a wash. I've found multiple reports that swing either way on the matter. Some will say that according to their studies more guns equal more violence, others will state the opposite. Without digging to deep on it and spending a bunch of time going through the different conflicting reports, I just take it as a wash for right now. Maybe tomorrow I'll get bored and start looking into it further.
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I don't believe I've read one poster state, "that once guns get banned" In this thread. But there you are throwing your emotion into it. To the opposite, I believe all posts have stated unequivocally that they respect the 2nd amendment and the right to bare arms. Just that there needs to be, based on factual data, that some regulation is in order. But oh yea, 30K+ deaths and 80K+ injuries per year from guns, those inanimate objects, don't deserve a mention in the press. They're one offs dontcha know? Its a vacuum, a statistical anomaly, not worth our attention, concern or compassion.mattsl1983 said:"Not a pity party - I feel more fortunate than so many. And many people feel the impact from tragedies that happen nowhere near them. But guess what, my kids, in our very suburban, "normal" school district have known the "run to and crouch down in the inside corner of the classroom away from windows" routine since they were 4. Man, they really have it down! Makes a parent so proud! Columbine is in our school district - that was a bummer. But the much less famous Deer Creek MS, Platte Canyon HS, and Arapahoe HS shootings were also in our district or immediately adjacent. Never mind that one of my sons happened to be at a movie theatre about 12 miles away from Holmes the night he was opening fire on movie-goers in Aurora - won't even go there. Have a kid and figure that one out for yourself, asshole."
Well I guess since I'm apparently an asshole, here we go... Maybe since all this is happening in your close district, you residents need to figure out what in the community is the issue? I can't blame an inanimate object that requires a person to use as the problem. If your community constantly seems to have to deal with these issues, I'd look into the why's of these events. Why are there so many people in your community willing to get a gun and shoot people? I'm so sure that once guns get banned, your community will never have an issue again... Because it's the gun... Now you can call me an asshole.
The one good thing about numbers, is that they don't lie.
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So, where do our rights come from Unsung? Inquiring minds want to know.unsung said:
Rights, by definition are not limited and regulated. Privileges are.
Next time you feel the need to restrict MY rights how about I get to restrict yours and ban you from being able to post your opinion online. Maybe someone feels that it is reckless and it hurts their feelings. We can't have people getting their feelings hurt, can we?
How about I get to determine what kind of car you get to buy because I don't feel that you need one for whatever random knee-jerk reaction I feel like using? How about I get to give you one of those old brick cellphones because you don't need a smart phone? Maybe I think your TV is too big so I should be able to restrict that too.
Rights are not determined by you or I or any government. Rights are not limited or regulated. So no, I won't consider that.
I believe that there should be steps to ensure that bad guys cannot hurt good guys. However how many more laws will it take to stop gang shootings in Chicago?
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Maybe when Indiana stops allowing straw and bulk purchases of guns and passes background checks for gun shows? I dunno, maybe you could posit a solution?unsung said:
Rights, by definition are not limited and regulated. Privileges are.
Next time you feel the need to restrict MY rights how about I get to restrict yours and ban you from being able to post your opinion online. Maybe someone feels that it is reckless and it hurts their feelings. We can't have people getting their feelings hurt, can we?
How about I get to determine what kind of car you get to buy because I don't feel that you need one for whatever random knee-jerk reaction I feel like using? How about I get to give you one of those old brick cellphones because you don't need a smart phone? Maybe I think your TV is too big so I should be able to restrict that too.
Rights are not determined by you or I or any government. Rights are not limited or regulated. So no, I won't consider that.
I believe that there should be steps to ensure that bad guys cannot hurt good guys. However how many more laws will it take to stop gang shootings in Chicago?
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Grandfather current gun owners in, no questions asked. Pass legislation that takes effect in 2 or 3 years. Yes, pass a questionnaire regarding your "state of mind." Any psych majors on here? What "solutions" do you disagree with? Or is it all of them, just say no? State your opposition. A bill was written and proposed after Newtown. What do you disagree with in that bill? Did states raise their drinking age to 21 overnight to stem drunk driving deaths? Did automobiles get safer overnight? How about air travel or any other travel for that matter? Maybe, just maybe, my great grand kids won't have to duck and cover and shelter in place or worry about getting a cap in the movie theater, shopping mall, grocery store or just walking down the street. But maybe its just so insignificant of a problem, statistically speaking, that I'm overly emotional? Or maybe I need to move? Or ask my community what the problem is? Yea ha, Texas! Land of the free, home of the Alamo and Rick Perry and GWB!mattsl1983 said:
I agree with you. I'm not trying to arm every citizen, but a real solution hasn't been proposed yet. I'm all for background checks on every type of fire arm. I don't think registering will make any difference. I'm all for keeping the mentally ill from being able to legally purchase a fire arm. But how do we do that? Will we need to get cleared by a psychiatrist in order to buy a fire arm? Is that a possible solution moving forward? What do we do about the guns that are already out there? The proposed solutions so far is what i disagree with.
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