This is why I NEED an AR-15 with 30rd mags

unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
http://m.host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/six-arrested-after-heinous-home-invasion/article_69666916-1ab4-54c6-b660-9a52420b3e70.html?mobile_touch=true

Of course someone will say that they would use my gun against me, however the only way they will use it against me is as a club because they will have to evade a wall of lead first.
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  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    "wall of lead" - wow, how manly....
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    God help us if you one day have a mental breakdown or illness and take it out on any civilians and start firing at people. I hate guns, so does God...
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Only a lunatic would suggest something ridiculous like that.
  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    JWPearl said:

    God help us if you one day have a mental breakdown or illness and take it out on any civilians and start firing at people. I hate guns, so does God...

    oh, but don't worry, unsung has it ALL figured out.... he's said before that people with mental illness shouldn't be allowed to have guns.... because as we all know, everyone in that category is diagnosed and has a big sign on their forehead so they won't be able to get a gun. We're all good.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    "wall of lead" - wow, how manly....

    Sorry that you consider allowing my wife to be gang raped more manly.

  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    unsung said:

    "wall of lead" - wow, how manly....

    Sorry that you consider allowing my wife to be gang raped more manly.

    here you go with your odd persecution fantasies, unsung
    I find your "wall of lead" hail of bullets imagery a bit much

  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I find your lack of understanding of my desire to protect my family as a bit much.
  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    I think your desire is more about firing your AR-15
  • BinFrogBinFrog Posts: 7,309
    OP: Then go buy a gun and shut up already.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    If you really want to protect your family you might consider creating a wall of death. Forget the wussy assed AR-15. Get yourself a Heckler & Koch MP5/MP5K/MP5SD submachine gun, a Multi-shot Accessory Underbarrel Launcher, and surround your home with concertina wire, several M18A1 Claymore Anti-personnel mines, guard towers and flame throwers. Don't forget to install underground bunkers. No fear. Oo RAH!
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:

    http://m.host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/six-arrested-after-heinous-home-invasion/article_69666916-1ab4-54c6-b660-9a52420b3e70.html?mobile_touch=true

    Of course someone will say that they would use my gun against me, however the only way they will use it against me is as a club because they will have to evade a wall of lead first.

    So you walk around everywhere with fully loaded gun in event this happens to you? Your chick doesn't mind??? Hey babe can we do doggie so I can keep my trigger finger ready?

    If everyone was armed to the hilt there will be more guns In the street and more family tragedies due to accidental and emotionally charged shootings. If this couple had a gun it would likely be out in the streets causing more harm.
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  • if ya want a wall of lead, why not just use a hand grenade? in the heat of the moment it will be just as effective.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited March 2014
    Not a single one of you has addressed the home invaders, can't say I'm surprised.

    BLAME THOSE EVIL GUNZZZ!!!
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    unsung said:

    Not a single one of you has addressed the home invaders, can't say I'm surprised.

    BLAME THOSE EVIL GUNZZZ!!!

    dude ... it's like posting pictures of a 350 lb guy and saying that's why we need to make weight loss drugs free for everyone ... you're trying to justify the need for guns to fix a problem ... but the reality is that you've lost sight of the problem a long time ago ...
  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    that's because your AR-15 glorification is just, well, really kinda tiresome
  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    and predictable
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,594
    not having read the article but the headline for the kink says 6 arrested. Look at that our justice system at work. I wonder, will they be eligible for the DP? What was your stance on that? Oh it must be kill them all.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    unsung said:

    Not a single one of you has addressed the home invaders, can't say I'm surprised.

    BLAME THOSE EVIL GUNZZZ!!!

    Oh but I have. Unless your walking around all the time with a gun in your hands you'll not be able to use "your precious". Also if everyone had guns home invaders and burglars would have more guns. Vicious circle.
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  • I hate guns and so does god......hehehehe
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • oh and brianlux, an mp5 is a great gun, but your average gun enthusiast can't afford them as the full auto will set you back 15 to 25 grand depending on model and accessories.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    oh and brianlux, an mp5 is a great gun, but your average gun enthusiast can't afford them as the full auto will set you back 15 to 25 grand depending on model and accessories.

    No price to great for safety, my friend! Never leave home without it!

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  • i will just leave this here. there are essentially gun country clubs. maybe utopia for some people.

    http://news.yahoo.com/surge-in-luxury-shooting-clubs-caters-to-new-gun-culture-145240612.html
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    brianlux said:

    If you really want to protect your family you might consider creating a wall of death. Forget the wussy assed AR-15. Get yourself a Heckler & Koch MP5/MP5K/MP5SD submachine gun, a Multi-shot Accessory Underbarrel Launcher, and surround your home with concertina wire, several M18A1 Claymore Anti-personnel mines, guard towers and flame throwers. Don't forget to install underground bunkers. No fear. Oo RAH!

    Brian, don't forget a moat....I love moats especially if its stocked with bass or Japanese koi and a few floating land mines.

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  • thanks for posting that gimmie. the place looks pretty damn cool, but it is for the wealthy that's for sure. just the rounds cost enough to make shooting an expensive hobby. my AR rounds cost about a buck a piece so with a 30 round mag it starts to add up real quick. place did look cool though.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    Here’s the issue, Unsung, as I see it. You post and communicate as if gun ownership is the only solution to these horrific crimes you link to justify the unfettered ownership of firearms. Guns are not the only solution to home protection. Have you considered getting a medium size to large dog with a loud bark? How about reinforcing your entry doors with multiple locks? Installing an alarm system with a panic button? Motion sensor exterior lighting? Think about it, not every problem has to be solved by or with a gun.

    The other concern many of us non gun owners have is the risk factor involved with gun ownership and some innocent being injured or killed accidently or in a moment of rage by an otherwise “responsible” and “reasonable” gun owner. You yourself have posted an apology for lashing out at a fellow board member in another thread and stating, and I’m paraphrasing, “you were having a really bad week and the incident really bothered you (in reference to the police beating a man to death, I believe).” You have also claimed in another thread to walk into retail establishments that post “No CC Allowed” to confront the person behind the counter by stating your desire to take your business elsewhere. See? Carrying a concealed weapon and actively “confronting” someone because you don’t like their stance, position or desire to conduct their business a certain way. Now let’s say the said owner of said establishment is having a real bad day and maybe you are as well and he tells you to go F yourself and you say something back and because his dog crapped on the carpet that morning and he stepped in it and his previous week’s sales were less than anticipated and that business deal he had been working on for a year fell through, he decides to respond to your last comment by throwing his hot cup of coffee at you. You in turn feel “assaulted” and that your “physical safety” was threatened so you pull out your weapon and put two in his chest like you’ve been practicing at the gun range. Or some poor kid goes off the road at 3:00 a.m. and his cell phone is out of juice and he walks up to your house and bangs on the door wanting to use your phone. Or the group of high school kids toilet paper your tree in your yard when you’ve had a “bad day.” You want us to believe that all “responsible” gun owners are rational just as you want us to believe that all cops are evil and regularly and openly violating our civil liberties. Well then, would it be reasonable of me to think of all gun owners as irresponsible trigger happy nut jobs? I mean when you think of the police and how many there are (1.2 million comes to mind) and how many hours per day they work Xs the number of days in a year and compare that with the number of individuals killed by police in a year, on average, (300) by all causes, inclusive of fleeing the scene, refusing to drop a weapon or pulling a weapon or actively shooting at the police, and subtract these, the number of people randomly beaten to death or killed by the police is small in number(I believe one death is one too many and tragic but some people, criminals fleeing or shooting at cops get what they deserve, IMHO). But you make each case of police brutality into a concerted effort by law enforcement to squelch our individual freedoms and there’s some vast conspiracy afoot to trample the constitution. Most policing is a local function at the local or state level where the libertarians want their government control. I would call this paranoid and delusion thinking. And coupled with gun ownership, down right scary. If I lived next door to you and you spouted some of the stuff you post in the forums in public and I knew you owned a gun or guns and had a CC permit, I’d put my house on the market and move. Simple as that. I wouldn’t go buy my own gun to counter yours. I’d move. I’m sick and tired of people being shot and injured or killed by so called “responsible” gun owners and the idea that gun ownership should be completely unfettered. I’m sick and tired of this mantra that by requiring background checks, licensing and effective training to safely handle a firearm or a requirement to carry liability insurance or some kind of required registration upon sale or transfer, to cut down on gun trafficking and straw purchases, that this is somehow a violation of the 2nd amendment and a threat to our civil liberties. Michigan offers abortion insurance so why not liability insurance for gun ownership? And you rant about the arms the police carry and the “militarization” of local police forces? Read up on the bank robbery in LA and how outgunned the cops were and how many rounds the bad guys got off before being stopped and you’ll begin to understand the “arms race” at the local level. But I suppose that’s just fine with you? And if so, even scarier.

    It must suck to go through life thinking everyone is a potential threat, that you feel the need to arm yourself everywhere you go and look over your shoulder at the “government”, however you define it, and think that someday, you’re going to be the victim of a horrific crime or “jack booted government goons” busting through your front door to take your gun(s) away.

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  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    couldn't agree more with this from Halifax2theMax, especially on the moving away part - in a heartbeat
    and I could be wrong, but I think unsung has proudly posted that although he does carry, he doesn't have a CC permit, because apparently he is so perfectly tempered and responsible and mentally healthy that he shouldn't have to get a permit. Talk about delusional.

    Here’s the issue, Unsung, as I see it. You post and communicate as if gun ownership is the only solution to these horrific crimes you link to justify the unfettered ownership of firearms. Guns are not the only solution to home protection.

    I would call this paranoid and delusion thinking. And coupled with gun ownership, down right scary. If I lived next door to you and you spouted some of the stuff you post in the forums in public and I knew you owned a gun or guns and had a CC permit, I’d put my house on the market and move. Simple as that. I wouldn’t go buy my own gun to counter yours. I’d move. I’m sick and tired of people being shot and injured or killed by so called “responsible” gun owners and the idea that gun ownership should be completely unfettered. I’m sick and tired of this mantra that by requiring background checks, licensing and effective training to safely handle a firearm or a requirement to carry liability insurance or some kind of required registration upon sale or transfer, to cut down on gun trafficking and straw purchases, that this is somehow a violation of the 2nd amendment and a threat to our civil liberties.



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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    And I'm the paranoid and fearful one...

    I carry in states that my permit is valid. I do not carry in my home state because in this commie state I lose rights by participating. I do not advocate breaking laws, even unconstitutional ones. I'm not going before some liberal activist judge to explain why the law is wrong.

    Thanks for your concern.
  • jmuscatellojmuscatello Posts: 332
    it's not concern for you, trust me
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,025
    unsung said:

    And I'm the paranoid and fearful one...

    I carry in states that my permit is valid. I do not carry in my home state because in this commie state I lose rights by participating. I do not advocate breaking laws, even unconstitutional ones. I'm not going before some liberal activist judge to explain why the law is wrong.

    Thanks for your concern.

    You sound like a pissed off citizen of these United States. Why, do tell, don't you exercise some of that god given freedom you're always claiming to be at risk of or having already been taken away and move to a less "commie" state? Say Idaho, Texas or Arizona, much more gun friendly states, yes? What keeps you from your "freedom?" Liberal activist judges, a "commie" state and rampant crime and mayhem where you live, so why aren't you moving?

    What rights will you give up by participating and why not work through the democratic process, you know, with help from the NRA, to change the law so you can participate without giving up your rights?

    Peace.
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  • i work in that commie state in question. people will get their precious cc pass soon enough.
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