Hear the fans - Bring Pearl Jam To Israel

JK18472 said:

Check this out. Thank G-d and thank the IDF this mission was successful. These weapons could have caused catastrophic damage to people all over Israel, Christians, Arabs, and Jews.
I know a little while ago there was a lot of press when Israel intercepted another boat trying to break the blockade, just to prove a point. Unfortunately there were casualties. I don't want to bring that issue up again because I know people have strong opinions on it. But it surprises me that this makes no news. And no one seems to care. But this proves the idea that all vessels must be checked because weapons are being smuggled in.


http://www.idfblog.com/2014/03/10/weapons-seizure-exposes-irans-true-terror-intentions/


http://www.idfblog.com/2014/03/10/weapons-seizure-exposes-irans-true-terror-intentions/

Do you really read idf.blog.com?

mattsl1983 said:

Following your conversation with Bronx Bombers, when China was brought up (which you had posted support for Pearl Jam to play in) on how they have and continue to treat the Tibetans, your reply was that they are not a UN recognized country. It's called reading comprehension. I do like how when you are not able to post links to support whatever notion you believe to be as the absolute truth, you get flustered and refer to people as stalkers, tell them to keep stroking it, or the good ol' "I didn't say that" routine. You sir are a class act.

Who's flustered? I posted support for them playing an Earth Day festival in China four years ago, which was aimed at spreading environmental awareness to one of the Worlds biggest polluters, and a country that's in a position to implement wide-ranging environmental solutions and technologies. It had nothing to do with Tibet, which is not recognized as being under foreign occupation. Still, I've since changed my mind about supporting bands performing here, and wouldn't encourage them to in light of the Chinese treatment of Tibetans and Uighurs over the past few years. But that still doesn't change the fact that the situations in Israel and China are completely different.

Funny how you rely on a four year old thread to attempt to discredit me though. Just shows how desperate you are. Oh, and your pathetic reference to my supporting what I say with source material - maybe that counts as criticism in Dumbville? - doesn't make you look clever, it makes you look like a dick.

Keep up the personal attacks. You clearly have nothing else up your sleeve.

Israel was founded on terrorism and ethnic clensing, and the Zionist dream of ethnic Nationalism has continued a-pace ever since, with illegal racist, Jewish-only settlements continuing to be built on land stoeln from the Palestinians as we speak.

Do you people cheering for Pearl Jam to play there really think a band such as this will perform in such a country, thereby giving it their tacit support? The members of Pearl Jam never struck me as the type of people to cheer racial supremacy, apartheid policies, and ethnic cleansing.


http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/03/11/ben-gurion-quot-we-must-expel-the-arabs-and-take-their-place-quot/

'...It should be observed that the Jewish agency in Palestine declared itself a state on May 14, 1948. It was the next day, May 15 that the first of five Arab armies or contingents of armies entered Palestine. Thus, approximately half of the 1948 refugees fled or were extirpated before the first foreign Arab soldier set foot in Palestine. The time line is important: the Deir Yassin Massacre occurred on April 9, the expulsion of Arabs from the cities of Jaffe, Haifa, Tiberias, and Safid occurred at the end of April and in the first days of May. The flight of the Palestinian refugees, thus, was not set in motion by the entrance of the Arab armies as is often claimed.

Nor should we take from Mr Ben Gurion’s statement that the concept of Palestinian evacuation was confined to the years 1947 – 1948. The concept of transfer of the indigenous Arab population to make way for a Jewish state was intrinsic to the thinking of the Zionist leaders from its initial inception.

Thus Theodor Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, said in 1892:

'[We shall] spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.'

And in 1937, Ben Gurion stated:

'The compulsory transfer of Arabs from the valleys of the proposed Jewish state could give us something which we never had, even when we stood on our own feet during the days of the First and Second Temple.'

And in a letter to his son, also in 1937, he stated:

"We must expel the Arabs and take their places and if we have to use force, to guarantee our own right to settle in those places ­ then we have force at our disposal."

And in early 1948 Ben Gurion wrote in his War Diary,

"During the assault we must be ready to strike the decisive blow; that is, either to destroy the towns or expel its inhabitants so our people can replace them."

And in February 1948, Ben Gurion told Yoseph Weitz, director of the settlement of the Jewish National Fund and head of the official Transfer Committee of 1948:

'The war will give us land. The concept of ‘ours’ and ‘not ours’ are peace concepts, only, in war they lose their whole meaning.'

In fact, the concept of transfer, a euphemism for expulsion, was embraced by the entire Jewish leadership from the earliest stages of Zionism until the 1948 extirpation of the indigenous population. Transfer committees were actually set up from 1937 on until 1948 in order to study ways of riding Palestine of as many Arabs as possible.

By the end of the 1948 War, hundreds of Arab villages had been completely depopulated. Their house and buildings were bulldozed of blown up primarily for the purpose of preventing the return of their owners. Benny Morris lists 369 Palestinian villages and towns destroyed, while Professor Walid Khalidi, leading a team of field researchers, in an exhaustive study, describes the destruction of each of 418 villages or hamlets which are listed on an index of Palestinian cities of 1945.