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PJfanwillneverleave1 · January 2014

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TroubledSoul · January 2014

sirens is unwelcome because it was talked up to the be the next "black" and one of the most epic tracks since adam was a boy. then we heard it and were let down because it sounds so bloody corny, lame and reminiscent of a bon jovi B side ballad. ed's "hear the sireeeeeens" is lame. mike's 80s solo is lame. matt's november rain drums are lame. it's just such an underwhelming track that i really can't see how people rave about it. maybe because it gets in your head all day like katy perry and you get convinced that it's a good track.

yellow moon however is pretty good. it and pendulum will be (ie have been) the only songs that stand the test of time on my rotation.

dimitrispearljam · January 2014

you can see how wellcome is live..the singalong....enough said..
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 10 years at youtube and have half views

dimitrispearljam · January 2014

and yellow moon is amazing song!!

cp3iverson · January 2014

Sirens is my fav PJ tune since Sleight of Hand. Nothing wrong with writing a pop song if it's a good song.

I like when PJ takes chances and does something different. Taking chances doesnt have to mean loops and weird stuff. Sirens is refreshing.

TinAnt · January 2014

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I truly wonder why Sirens is so unwelcome from the fans.

Yellow Moon is not receiving a great response from the fans either.

Both are such tremendously talented artwork (besides the double eyed poster) that these songs need to played.

That's the thing about artwork, not everyone agrees. Some might think Yellow Moon is a piece of shit, and that is their subjective opinion. You can disagree, but you can't say it's wrong.

buck502000 · January 2014

Yellow moon should open shows.........

fruupp · January 2014

I love Sirens & do not care if everyone knows,great song live as well.

Peasant Tents · January 2014

Yellow Moon is a beautiful song... The middle part is outstanding -- in fact, in a Year where both my parents passed it brings a lump to my throat....

breakmarysfall · January 2014

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I truly wonder why Sirens is so unwelcome from the fans.

Yellow Moon is not receiving a great response from the fans either.

Both are such tremendously talented artwork (besides the double eyed poster) that these songs need to played.

I completely agree: both are tremendously talented artwork and Yellow moon, I just thought so yesterday, has become one of my everlasting faves... finally my song to celebrate the moon - uhh another thanks has to be spoken out.

and about Sirens: well, it has personal reasons why I can't relate to it that much ... I kinda miss this sort of feeling those days... but it is a masterpiece, that's for sure.
so I wonder too, why it is rejected by fans, here and then...

Opinions???

arq · January 2014

Love both songs.

mattsl1983 · January 2014

It's probably rejected because it was released as a single and received lots of airplay. This typically happens to fan bases when "their" band releases something that gets into pop radio play. For whatever reason a new song that can cross over and reach a different fan base is looked down upon by the "real" fans. It's the too cool for school mentality. Then what happens is the "real" fans will gravitate to another song that is somewhat similar on the album. I think that's the case for Yellow Moon. Another mid tempo acoustic ballad of sorts. I've seen this kind of pattern happen many many times with bands and their fans. Or some may just not care for the song. I thought Sirens was okay when released, first few times I heard it on the tour it didn't really do anything for me. But after Voodoo, with Steve coming out to introduce the band and then using it as the opener, it really did something to me and I love the song now.

breakmarysfall · January 2014

mattsl1983 said:
It's probably rejected because it was released as a single and received lots of airplay. This typically happens to fan bases when "their" band releases something that gets into pop radio play. For whatever reason a new song that can cross over and reach a different fan base is looked down upon by the "real" fans. It's the too cool for school mentality. Then what happens is the "real" fans will gravitate to another song that is somewhat similar on the album. I think that's the case for Yellow Moon. Another mid tempo acoustic ballad of sorts. I've seen this kind of pattern happen many many times with bands and their fans. . ......

I really like this comment/ - a perfect explanation - thanks

Gern Blansten · January 2014

I think the keepers from this album are:

Infallible
Yellow Moon
Getaway
Swallowed Whole
Pendulum
My Fathers Son

Bant · January 2014

dimitrispearljam said:
you can see how wellcome is live..the singalong....enough said..
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 10 years at youtube and have half views

The song is a momentum killer at shows and Youtube hasn't even existed for 10 years.

shortstack · January 2014

sirens = music to appeal to the masses. rustle up them new customers, yeeeha!

yellow moon is okay

dimitrispearljam · January 2014

Bant said:

dimitrispearljam said:
you can see how wellcome is live..the singalong....enough said..
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 10 years at youtube and have half views

The song is a momentum killer at shows and Youtube hasn't even existed for 10 years.

5 years??is it ok?..
lets do that again
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 5 years at youtube and have 10 times less views

RiotAct10 · January 2014

Everyone has different tastes. No big deal. But I agree, someone somewhere decided to say Sirens was the next Black. I remember when BS came out, someone on the board said Amongst The Waves was the next Alive. I think of that every time I hear it. I wish people would stop comparing new songs to old songs, especially before we hear them, because these people are almost always way off, and it does lead to further disappointment I fear. With that said, Yellow Moon is one of my fav tracks on the record.

RiotAct10 · January 2014

shortstack said:
sirens = music to appeal to the masses. rustle up them new customers, yeeeha!

yellow moon is okay

Does Sirens appeal to the masses? I'm just asking. I literally listen to nothing but Pearl Jam Radio and sports talk 98% of the time. So I am seriously asking, has Sirens been successful? Is it being played on the radio? Pop stations? Rock Stations? Adult Contemporary?

TheLuckyOnes · January 2014

RiotAct10 said:
Is it being played on the radio? Pop stations? Rock Stations? Adult Contemporary?

Yes, Yes and yes.

I hear it (at work) every day, on Pop station, right in between Rhianna and Passenger, and on the Adult Alternative, in between Matchbox 20 and The Clash.

cheers

Bant · January 2014

dimitrispearljam said:

Bant said:

dimitrispearljam said:
you can see how wellcome is live..the singalong....enough said..
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 10 years at youtube and have half views

The song is a momentum killer at shows and Youtube hasn't even existed for 10 years.

5 years??is it ok?..
lets do that again
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 5 years at youtube and have 10 times less views

Do what again? What songs are you talking about? Regardless of which songs your referring, when they were released they were not promoted or new material.

Jeremy on PJvevo: 18.5 million - posted 4 years ago
Even Flow on PJvevo: 17.2 million - posted 4 years ago
Alive on PJvevo: 12.6 million - posted 4 years ago

Sirens on PJvevo: 46,000 - posted 2 months ago
Sirens on official PJ youtube: 6.9 million - posted 3 months ago

Anyway, Sirens doesn't exactly have 10 times the views as other PJ songs.

Peasant Tents · January 2014

I think Sirens is a good song, but it ain't no Black that's for sure...

dimitrispearljam · January 2014

Bant said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Bant said:

dimitrispearljam said:
you can see how wellcome is live..the singalong....enough said..
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 10 years at youtube and have half views

The song is a momentum killer at shows and Youtube hasn't even existed for 10 years.

5 years??is it ok?..
lets do that again
oh and have a few million views at youtube..when the same time other pj songs are 5 years at youtube and have 10 times less views
Do what again? What songs are you talking about? Regardless of which songs your referring, when they were released they were not promoted or new material.

Jeremy on PJvevo: 18.5 million - posted 4 years ago
Even Flow on PJvevo: 17.2 million - posted 4 years ago
Alive on PJvevo: 12.6 million - posted 4 years ago

Sirens on PJvevo: 46,000 - posted 2 months ago
Sirens on official PJ youtube: 6.9 million - posted 3 months ago

Anyway, Sirens doesn't exactly have 10 times the views as other PJ songs.

it woukld be easy to talk to someone idiot or who dont be around pj alot
do u know any other pj song has 7 millinon vieww is 3 months??are u kidding me>?
dont like sirens is one thing,that so many pj fans or music fans dig to it,is another.

dimitrispearljam · January 2014

Peasant Tents said:
I think Sirens is a good song, but it ain't no Black that's for sure...

nothing was,is or ever will be like Black..
the one wrote that about Sirens ,needs a doctor and exams in the head

cp3iverson · January 2014

It's not cool to like Sirens just like its uncool to say Ten is their best record.

Good music is good music.

mfc2006 · January 2014

I like them both...a lot.

and guess what....I also don't mind Sleeping By Myself! SHOCKER!

Kearn5y · January 2014

buck502000 said:
Yellow moon should open shows.........

Yellow Moon is one of my favourite songs from LB, would make a great opener (do it in Leeds). Would rather heat it than Pendulum, still cannot get the big deal with that song.

moldar · January 2014

Sirens is a great song, as is Yellow Moon. My fav from the new album is definitely Future Days.

LongRoad1802 · January 2014

Most definitely, both tracks were "GROWERS" for me...Initially I was underwhelmed by both when I heard the studio versions. However, after hearing the Hartford 2013 bootleg versions, I've come around, eating humble pie, feel like a disrespectful hater and currently tipping my hat to the genius of pearl jam.