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  • Yefa wrote:
    But look at the info above. Number 3 under Baltimore says they clinch a playoff spot with losses by Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Miami. If they also needed to win to get in under a particular scenario, it would typically say that (as with numbers 1 and 2). So doesn't that mean that Baltimore gets in if all 4 teams lose next week?

    Okay, I actually misspoke when I said if everybody lost, Miami would be in. It would in fact be Baltimore. Here's why:

    If Pitt loses, they're 7-9 and they're done. If Miami, SD, and Balt all lose, they'd all finish 8-8. I was thinking that since they'd all be 8-8 and Miami would have the best conference record, Miami would get in. I forgot that a Miami loss means they would have lost to the Jets, and thus the Jets would also finish 8-8. So it would be a four-way tie at 8-8 between Miami, Jets, Balt, and San Diego. Division tie-breakers are used first in the tie-breaking "hierarchy" so Miami would be eliminated right off the bat because the Jets would have a better division record than them. With Miami gone, that would leave a three-way tie at 8-8 between the Jets, Ravens, and Chargers and the Ravens would win that tie-breaker with the best conference record.

    That's how Pittsburgh is even still alive. The lost to Miami and can't finish with a better conference record than them, but a five-way tie at 8-8 between Pitt, Balt, Mia, SD, and NYJ would cause the Ravens to be immediately eliminated cause they wouldn't have as good a division record as Pitt, Miami would be gone cause they won't have as good a division record as NYJ, and this would leave a three-way tie between Pitt, SD, and NYJ, that the Steelers would win that with the best conference record.
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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    Yefa wrote:
    But look at the info above. Number 3 under Baltimore says they clinch a playoff spot with losses by Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Miami. If they also needed to win to get in under a particular scenario, it would typically say that (as with numbers 1 and 2). So doesn't that mean that Baltimore gets in if all 4 teams lose next week?

    Okay, I actually misspoke when I said if everybody lost, Miami would be in. It would in fact be Baltimore. Here's why:

    If Pitt loses, they're 7-9 and they're done. If Miami, SD, and Balt all lose, they'd all finish 8-8. I was thinking that since they'd all be 8-8 and Miami would have the best conference record, Miami would get in. I forgot that a Miami loss means they would have lost to the Jets, and thus the Jets would also finish 8-8. So it would be a four-way tie at 8-8 between Miami, Jets, Balt, and San Diego. Division tie-breakers are used first in the tie-breaking "hierarchy" so Miami would be eliminated right off the bat because the Jets would have a better division record than them. With Miami gone, that would leave a three-way tie at 8-8 between the Jets, Ravens, and Chargers and the Ravens would win that tie-breaker with the best conference record.

    That's how Pittsburgh is even still alive. The lost to Miami and can't finish with a better conference record than them, but a five-way tie at 8-8 between Pitt, Balt, Mia, SD, and NYJ would cause the Ravens to be immediately eliminated cause they wouldn't have as good a division record as Pitt, Miami would be gone cause they won't have as good a division record as NYJ, and this would leave a three-way tie between Pitt, SD, and NYJ, that the Steelers would win that with the best conference record.


    :crazy: Thanks for the explanation!
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • FrankieG wrote:
    Yefa wrote:
    But look at the info above. Number 3 under Baltimore says they clinch a playoff spot with losses by Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Miami. If they also needed to win to get in under a particular scenario, it would typically say that (as with numbers 1 and 2). So doesn't that mean that Baltimore gets in if all 4 teams lose next week?

    Okay, I actually misspoke when I said if everybody lost, Miami would be in. It would in fact be Baltimore. Here's why:

    If Pitt loses, they're 7-9 and they're done. If Miami, SD, and Balt all lose, they'd all finish 8-8. I was thinking that since they'd all be 8-8 and Miami would have the best conference record, Miami would get in. I forgot that a Miami loss means they would have lost to the Jets, and thus the Jets would also finish 8-8. So it would be a four-way tie at 8-8 between Miami, Jets, Balt, and San Diego. Division tie-breakers are used first in the tie-breaking "hierarchy" so Miami would be eliminated right off the bat because the Jets would have a better division record than them. With Miami gone, that would leave a three-way tie at 8-8 between the Jets, Ravens, and Chargers and the Ravens would win that tie-breaker with the best conference record.

    That's how Pittsburgh is even still alive. The lost to Miami and can't finish with a better conference record than them, but a five-way tie at 8-8 between Pitt, Balt, Mia, SD, and NYJ would cause the Ravens to be immediately eliminated cause they wouldn't have as good a division record as Pitt, Miami would be gone cause they won't have as good a division record as NYJ, and this would leave a three-way tie between Pitt, SD, and NYJ, that the Steelers would win that with the best conference record.


    :crazy: Thanks for the explanation!

    I've been a playoff scenario dork from a very young age. My math notebook in elementary school was filled with stuff like "SF Win + Dal Loss/Tie OR Green Bay......etc" Once the playoffs would start in January, I turned my attention to filling up pages with who I thought the 30 guys in the Royal Rumble might be.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    FrankieG wrote:
    :crazy: Thanks for the explanation!

    I've been a playoff scenario dork from a very young age. My math notebook in elementary school was filled with stuff like "SF Win + Dal Loss/Tie OR Green Bay......etc" Once the playoffs would start in January, I turned my attention to filling up pages with who I thought the 30 guys in the Royal Rumble might be.

    haha thats cool! How far out would you start to predict the scenarios? Week 15? Week 14?
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • FrankieG wrote:
    FrankieG wrote:
    :crazy: Thanks for the explanation!

    I've been a playoff scenario dork from a very young age. My math notebook in elementary school was filled with stuff like "SF Win + Dal Loss/Tie OR Green Bay......etc" Once the playoffs would start in January, I turned my attention to filling up pages with who I thought the 30 guys in the Royal Rumble might be.

    haha thats cool! How far out would you start to predict the scenarios? Week 15? Week 14?

    Not so much predicting the scenarios but just knowing what's good and what's bad for each team each week. in December Like, as soon as things went to shit for my Dolphins yesterday in Buffalo, I knew exactly what we'd need going forward. And I actually like their scenario cause they have two outs. They have to win and have a Baltimore loss OR a San Diego win. If their only scenario was win and need Baltimore to lose, that wouldn't be awful but wouldn't be ideal either. At least now, if Miami and Baltimore both win at 1, San Diego can bail out Miami with a win at 4:30. So I like having the two outs. Though it'll all be moot when the Dolphins lose to the Jets.
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    norm wrote:

    :fp: :lol::| Pressure is on Philly. If they lose to Orton... :?






    Also found this cool chart that breaks down the AFC WIld Card Race:
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    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    Steelers fans: :lol:
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    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    Kyle Orton + neck beard = cowboys playoff seed

    You heard it here first.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    FrankieG wrote:
    Steelers fans: :lol:
    SF8MzIP.gif
    Hell yes!

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    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    that's how you clinch a playoff spot
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,315
    I wish I had The Red Zone channel today :|
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    America's Team!

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    or not
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Go Cowboys. :sick:
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    norm wrote:
    America's Team!

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    or not

    that's stupid. the feagles may indeed win but they're not THAT good.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Newch91 wrote:
    Go Cowboys. :sick:

    Yep, especially living in this town.

    Eagles are gonna roll them though
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    imalive wrote:
    norm wrote:
    America's Team!

    BcqIvDKCIAATwtH.png:large


    or not

    that's stupid. the feagles may indeed win but they're not THAT good.

    they're the highest scoring team in the conference and the defense has only given up 20 pts per game in the 2nd half of the season. they might be a little better than you think.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    Go Cowboys. :sick:

    Yep, especially living in this town.

    Eagles are gonna roll them though
    :lol:
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,529
    Jason P wrote:
    FrankieG wrote:
    Steelers fans: :lol:
    SF8MzIP.gif
    Hell yes!

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    well its TRUE!!!!!! :mrgreen: :corn:
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Jason P wrote:
    I wish I had The Red Zone channel today :|


    sucks to be you. the red zone was made for afternoons like this. :thumbup:
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