vancouver = WORST ga lineup organization
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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im no "Don Johnson" but Im not in the line and showered before and after my GA shows!
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Mamasan Bren wrote:
Wow. Really? Touched the spot at 9am and enjoyed your day till 5:15pm, and on here to brag of it? okkkkk
exactly. I was thinking the same thing.
get there early, "check in", get a number on your hand, and then take off all day. After some pre-partying, show up and expect to be up front. Fuck that. That's bullshit. You want the rail, pay your dues like everyone else and wait there0 -
PRL1JAM wrote:
exactly. I was thinking the same thing.
get there early, "check in", get a number on your hand, and then take off all day. After some pre-partying, show up and expect to be up front. Fuck that. That's bullshit. You want the rail, pay your dues like everyone else and wait there
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lakerat25 wrote:The list is a total joke. In San Diego some gal with black hair and a voice that could peel paint was running it. I was about 90-120 deep and nobody around me had a number. When she came back to "line up" everyone, the group in front of me said they didn't have number, didn't know about the number and that was the end of it. It still pissed a bunch of people off to see a large group stroll up in line just because they got a "number". I find it humorous that the "number system" is an indication of the people who seem to move in the opposite direction of the band they hold so near and dear to their hearts.
I saw that same girl at LA2 with list in hand I'm pretty sure.1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II.0 -
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Divka wrote:I've always been the type of concert-goer who will get in line at the butt-crack of dawn because I want to be in the front row. I do this for 2 reasons - 1) I am 5'1 and if I'm not in the front I can't see crap. 2) Like Dimitris said, being right in front of Mike is the best thing ever. I will happily stand (or sit) in line for 12 hours to make that happen. Been doing it since I was 15.
For the list - the first time I encountered it was in Missoula, and it worked very well. People didn't abuse the system in that they didn't show up at 8am, grab a number, and take off until 4:30pm. The idea was that if you needed to go get some food, or take a pee, you could leave the line without losing your place. And it helped when the time came to go pick up tix.
The only other GA list I have encountered was in Phoenix. This time, people acted as if the # on their hand was a ticket with a reserved seat on it.So when those people with numbers on their hands who disappeared all day showed back up at 4:30 and began shoving themselves in line, it was a shit show. And yes, there was that one crazy person who started yelling orders and acting like they were in charge. I think that if you want to claim a spot at the front of the line, stay in the damn line all day. If you can't handle that, then show up before doors open and get the best spot you can.
I played along with both lists in that I got a # and I wrote my name down, but I stayed in line all day long. I love the GA section and hope it stays, but I wish the lists would disappear. Just get in line. Don't act like you own a spot on the pavement because the first person in line handed you a sharpie. :fp:
Well put. Sad to hear there was abuse of it in PHX.1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II.0 -
If I ever get GA tickets, I'm finding a nice cozy spot in the BACK of GA, leaning against the rail, dead-center with a completely unobstructed view, far from you people in the front.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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The explosion is about to happen.
Saw the Philly shows
And people were cool.
But the GA could hurt someone....
Eventually
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crazygeo wrote:The explosion is about to happen.
Saw the Philly shows
And people were cool.
But the GA could hurt someone....
Eventually
Rockside couldn't happen again...
Could it?
Not in an arena.
Sure someone could eat shit running down the stairs to get to the floor trying to be the #1 TFL of the night.0 -
Ledbetterman10 wrote:If I ever get GA tickets, I'm finding a nice cozy spot in the BACK of GA, leaning against the rail, dead-center with a completely unobstructed view, far from you people in the front.
Did that just last night!!0 -
The people up front in the pit are absolutely fantastic. They only turn into monsters outside in the line. Once they get their fucking spot on the rail the revert back to cool people who just really love PJ and want to rock out. It was really really fun being up at the front, and every single person around me was awesome, including the people on the rail right in front of me.Ledbetterman10 wrote:If I ever get GA tickets, I'm finding a nice cozy spot in the BACK of GA, leaning against the rail, dead-center with a completely unobstructed view, far from you people in the front.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
dimitrispearljam wrote:Yep...
but he also said that it works perfect if no one takes advantage of it. so it's a neither this nor that answer. anything to stay popular with all the peops, i guess. :thumbup:did you see me? i saw you.0 -
smanchac1 wrote:
Well I'll be right next to ya the next time I get GA tix.PJ_Soul wrote:The people up front in the pit are absolutely fantastic. They only turn into monsters outside in the line. Once they get their fucking spot on the rail the revert back to cool people who just really love PJ and want to rock out. It was really really fun being up at the front, and every single person around me was awesome, including the people on the rail right in front of me.
Yeah I'm sure everyone's cool. But frankly, I'd never arrive in time to be near the rail anyway. So I'd rather get comfortable in the back and scout ways to move up than deal with all that comes with trying to get a prime spot.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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So Philly 2 was my second show. I was by myself and got there at 12. Got my poster and put that in the car, went to the back of the line for GA and was next to this dude who had number 50 on his hand. I asked him about the number and he said he really wasn't sure but thought it kept his spot. Wasn't sure about how official it was but figured it was how it was being done. He had been there for a few hours. So we started talking and I mentioned a rumor I had heard here on the forum about Philly 1 and how people in the bar at the far end had gotten into GA before anyone else. So we left the line and walked around to try to figure this out. Turns out the bar idea was a wash so later we went to get back in line and it had grown about 50 more deep. We weren't being dicks or anything but we were ignorant as to whether or not the list was official. We thought it was. So we started asking people right about where we had met what their numbers were. We got right behind the guy who was # 47 or so and started hanging with them. Made some show friends. They had some beers and we imbibed. Then numbers 52/53 showed up. They were cool so we let them in line with us. A few more kinda showed up and suddenly we were a group of like 8 that were having a great time together waiting. This type of thing was happening in front of us and behind us as well but nobody was getting all riled up or violent. Come time for doors to open, I'd say we were about number 100 or so even though my new buddy was supposed to be number 50. We as a group ended up about 3-4 deep between eddie and stone. Had a great time and there didn't seem to be much of an issue about the line. I guess it's just how the vibe is the day of the show. The title of this thread being "worse ga lineup in vancouver" but it sounds like the lineup has been the same at all the shows.Pit 10/11/13
Philly 10/22/13
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Really? People were screaming and running up and down the line in a panic giving directions in Philly too?Chuckhaint wrote:So Philly 2 was my second show. I was by myself and got there at 12. Got my poster and put that in the car, went to the back of the line for GA and was next to this dude who had number 50 on his hand. I asked him about the number and he said he really wasn't sure but thought it kept his spot. Wasn't sure about how official it was but figured it was how it was being done. He had been there for a few hours. So we started talking and I mentioned a rumor I had heard here on the forum about Philly 1 and how people in the bar at the far end had gotten into GA before anyone else. So we left the line and walked around to try to figure this out. Turns out the bar idea was a wash so later we went to get back in line and it had grown about 50 more deep. We weren't being dicks or anything but we were ignorant as to whether or not the list was official. We thought it was. So we started asking people right about where we had met what their numbers were. We got right behind the guy who was # 47 or so and started hanging with them. Made some show friends. They had some beers and we imbibed. Then numbers 52/53 showed up. They were cool so we let them in line with us. A few more kinda showed up and suddenly we were a group of like 8 that were having a great time together waiting. This type of thing was happening in front of us and behind us as well but nobody was getting all riled up or violent. Come time for doors to open, I'd say we were about number 100 or so even though my new buddy was supposed to be number 50. We as a group ended up about 3-4 deep between eddie and stone. Had a great time and there didn't seem to be much of an issue about the line. I guess it's just how the vibe is the day of the show. The title of this thread being "worse ga lineup in vancouver" but it sounds like the lineup has been the same at all the shows.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Really? People were screaming and running up and down the line in a panic giving directions in Philly too?[/quote]
Not running or panicking. But there was a list and I remember someone with a clipboard claiming to be in charge of the list. I just remember mostly coolness going on but the same type of setup for the line as all the other shows as I've read online here. I was only at one other show pittsburgh but got there later and ont remember much in the way of a list etc.Pit 10/11/13
Philly 10/22/13
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Chuckhaint wrote:
Not running or panicking. But there was a list and I remember someone with a clipboard claiming to be in charge of the list. I just remember mostly coolness going on but the same type of setup for the line as all the other shows as I've read online here. I was only at one other show pittsburgh but got there later and ont remember much in the way of a list etc.
Oh okay... This thread is titled what it is because the the line was actually complete chaos, at least in the hour before doors opened. It wasn't just the usual flood of assholes cutting in line and everyone bending over and taking it. :P With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
If it makes people feel better I remember a similar but completely different GA pit issue at the same Arena.
It's a bit different because u2 (like springsteen) aren't really drawing for the rail.... they're drawing for people to get into the pit itself (which even though the whole floor is GA, is a seperate smaller ga section up front).
On the Vertigo tour U2 didn't really organize it. It first come first serve with roughly 300-350 capacity in the pit. Fans did do a number thing and were number 200ish and to be fair everyone seemed to wait rather then take off for extended periods of time. The problem that happened was the GA line got so long (it was by gate 7) that it double back on itself (in the shape of a horseshoe) so the back of the line was right next to the front of the line. That completely sucked. As soon as doors opened.. all the people at the back of the line hopped the fence and budged in :(
The next tour it was by random ticket draw. IE they scanned your ticket and if it won you got a wristband for the pit. That was pretty awesome.
It's a bit wierd because the other bands that deal with it are only trying to allocate who gets into the pit.
I guess springsteens method would work best if you wanted a controlled atmosphere. No lines and no waiting around all day. You show up in the afternoon, grab a number, come back at 5, the draw a number. Say 900 people draw numbers, they pull 666, then 666 is the first, they go up to 900, then go back 1 until the pit is full.
It takes a bit of staffing to run it, so imagine there's a cost there. It's meant to get a bunch of people in the pit, and its not so much about rail. Obviously if your in the first 40 or 50 after the called number should get on the rail.
I can't see PJ hiring staff and running it like that just to make sure 50 people get the rail. It makes a bit more sense when it gets 100's of people in the pit.
I would say do it old school. No managing of a list. Wait in line with a buddy, get to know your neighbors, and that way you can take turns taking piss breaks. As long as the people around you know that's your spot the line is self contained....
Kind of like last night in Vancouver when I took a piss break between Mudhoney and PJ. I had a pretty nice spot a few rows back just to the right of Eddie. My brother saved me some room. People really didn't want to let me back up, then the girl who standing behind me vouched for me and I got through
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Sounds like we were almost right next to each other. i was directly in front of Ed, maybe one person to the left, third from the rail), and all the people in that spot were very cool before PJ came on about people going to the washroom and coming back to our spot. Once everyone was in it was practically a love fest, at least where I was.Zod wrote:If it makes people feel better I remember a similar but completely different GA pit issue at the same Arena.
It's a bit different because u2 (like springsteen) aren't really drawing for the rail.... they're drawing for people to get into the pit itself (which even though the whole floor is GA, is a seperate smaller ga section up front).
On the Vertigo tour U2 didn't really organize it. It first come first serve with roughly 300-350 capacity in the pit. Fans did do a number thing and were number 200ish and to be fair everyone seemed to wait rather then take off for extended periods of time. The problem that happened was the GA line got so long (it was by gate 7) that it double back on itself (in the shape of a horseshoe) so the back of the line was right next to the front of the line. That completely sucked. As soon as doors opened.. all the people at the back of the line hopped the fence and budged in :(
The next tour it was by random ticket draw. IE they scanned your ticket and if it won you got a wristband for the pit. That was pretty awesome.
It's a bit wierd because the other bands that deal with it are only trying to allocate who gets into the pit.
I guess springsteens method would work best if you wanted a controlled atmosphere. No lines and no waiting around all day. You show up in the afternoon, grab a number, come back at 5, the draw a number. Say 900 people draw numbers, they pull 666, then 666 is the first, they go up to 900, then go back 1 until the pit is full.
It takes a bit of staffing to run it, so imagine there's a cost there. It's meant to get a bunch of people in the pit, and its not so much about rail. Obviously if your in the first 40 or 50 after the called number should get on the rail.
I can't see PJ hiring staff and running it like that just to make sure 50 people get the rail. It makes a bit more sense when it gets 100's of people in the pit.
I would say do it old school. No managing of a list. Wait in line with a buddy, get to know your neighbors, and that way you can take turns taking piss breaks. As long as the people around you know that's your spot the line is self contained....
Kind of like last night in Vancouver when I took a piss break between Mudhoney and PJ. I had a pretty nice spot a few rows back just to the right of Eddie. My brother saved me some room. People really didn't want to let me back up, then the girl who standing behind me vouched for me and I got through
Hey, since it happened closer to you, do you know why two security guys came barging through the pit before the show started??With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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