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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Can I just say something?
    I was at the venue early... I'm talking really fucking early in San Diego... because I wanted my girlfriend to get on the rail. And i'll add, both of us were there. We sat in the line all day... but, in the course of the hours, we had to go to the bathroom. Now, if you want me to shit on the sidewalk... I will. You definately would not like that because even i can't stand my own shit. I'd much rather shit in a toilet or porta potty, but if you expect people to get in line and not move all day... you are being the Nazi, not the people in line because Nazis did that kind of thing to people, not the people who managed the list.
    Now, of course people are going to be pissed... but, not the people who spend the entire day and got rewarded for their time by getting on the rail.
    And i have been to many concerts that were General Admission and there are ALWAYS those people who will snake thier way to the front... basically because that is the character of their making... they are snakes. List or not, they are snakes and will try any bullshit method in their arsenal to get what they, truely belive, they deserve.
    Example:
    I was at a Soundgarden gig and the early entry door for the fan club. Me and my friend got there early and there were about 55 people in line. Cool. It stayed that way for most of the day, while people went to the restroom or to their cars or to get something to eat. About an hour before the doors opened, there were about 200 people in front of us. The people in front let all of their friends in line with them.
    Luckily for me... Karma was there and the door they went to.. the ticket scanner jammed and they got in later. i went to the far door, got scanned and ended up on the rail, in front of Ben. That was right where we wanted to be.
    ...
    So, my perception of the list... it worked at Pearl Jam. We had such a great time on the rail... we got there early for the L.A. gigs, too. I'm also one who really doesn't like lists and shit... but, it did prevent **most** of the snakes i see at all of the gigs in L.A. from applying their craft and screwing over their fellow fan mates.
    ...
    If we were all honest people... with honorable character traits... there would not be the need for lists and this thread would not have to exist. Unfortunately for all of us, this is not the case.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • DURP
    DURP OhighO Posts: 2,180
    RKCNDY wrote:
    MisterEtake2 wrote:
    If this process keeps up, someone is going to get hurt. It's not a question of if, it's when.

    Someone got mugged in front of the Oracle building today...for reals. Now she doesn't have her passport, can't pick up her tickets to Spokane, or Seattle, and can't go to the Vancouver show.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/tenclubmembers/

    That's sad.
    My butt itches!
  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    What do you mean. Can't you just use your driver's license or other government ID from your own country??

    I think that she only had her passport on her, if she is in the US, she doesn't need her DL from Brazil-I think.

    When you come to the US, do you bring your DL and passport?
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Cosmo wrote:
    Can I just say something?
    I was at the venue early... I'm talking really fucking early in San Diego... because I wanted my girlfriend to get on the rail. And i'll add, both of us were there. We sat in the line all day... but, in the course of the hours, we had to go to the bathroom. Now, if you want me to shit on the sidewalk... I will. You definately would not like that because even i can't stand my own shit. I'd much rather shit in a toilet or porta potty, but if you expect people to get in line and not move all day... you are being the Nazi, not the people in line because Nazis did that kind of thing to people, not the people who managed the list.
    Now, of course people are going to be pissed... but, not the people who spend the entire day and got rewarded for their time by getting on the rail.
    And i have been to many concerts that were General Admission and there are ALWAYS those people who will snake thier way to the front... basically because that is the character of their making... they are snakes. List or not, they are snakes and will try any bullshit method in their arsenal to get what they, truely belive, they deserve.
    Example:
    I was at a Soundgarden gig and the early entry door for the fan club. Me and my friend got there early and there were about 55 people in line. Cool. It stayed that way for most of the day, while people went to the restroom or to their cars or to get something to eat. About an hour before the doors opened, there were about 200 people in front of us. The people in front let all of their friends in line with them.
    Luckily for me... Karma was there and the door they went to.. the ticket scanner jammed and they got in later. i went to the far door, got scanned and ended up on the rail, in front of Ben. That was right where we wanted to be.
    ...
    So, my perception of the list... it worked at Pearl Jam. We had such a great time on the rail... we got there early for the L.A. gigs, too. I'm also one who really doesn't like lists and shit... but, it did prevent **most** of the snakes i see at all of the gigs in L.A. from applying their craft and screwing over their fellow fan mates.
    ...
    If we were all honest people... with honorable character traits... there would not be the need for lists and this thread would not have to exist. Unfortunately for all of us, this is not the case.
    perfectly said
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • WhyNotSweden
    WhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,308
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    its the only way when u are in another country to pick up your 10c tix,and if are at GA will have with u
    thats happened to Lara
    I have used my Swedish drivers license in both USA and Europe to collect my 10C tickets, no need for a passport.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:

    its the only way when u are in another country to pick up your 10c tix,and if are at GA will have with u
    thats happened to Lara
    What do you mean. Can't you just use your driver's license or other government ID from your own country??
    yours yes..its written in english.
    They would turn down someone's valid government ID just because it's from a non-English foreign country? Seems discriminatory... Have you tested this theory? They wouldn't take your Greek drivers license?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RKCNDY
    RKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    discriminatory... Have you tested this theory? They wouldn't take your Greek drivers license?

    not very many people speak Greeklish... :lol:
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    WhyNotSweden wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    its the only way when u are in another country to pick up your 10c tix,and if are at GA will have with u
    thats happened to Lara
    I have used my Swedish drivers license in both USA and Europe to collect my 10C tickets, no need for a passport.
    Okay, that's what I figured. Never heard of anyone turning down ID just because it was foreign.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • acharding
    acharding Posts: 359
    no one cares about the list if you are there all day.

    People only get pissed when people put their name on a list and then go party somewhere and come jump in front of the line 15 minutes before the doors open.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    RKCNDY wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    What do you mean. Can't you just use your driver's license or other government ID from your own country??

    I think that she only had her passport on her, if she is in the US, she doesn't need her DL from Brazil-I think.

    When you come to the US, do you bring your DL and passport?
    when i travel out of the country and need to get my 10c tix,i carry my passport with me and leave my Greek id at the hotel,its useless to pick up tickets,its in Greek
    in case lost one,i have the other atleast..but tix,only with passport i can get them
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    WhyNotSweden wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    its the only way when u are in another country to pick up your 10c tix,and if are at GA will have with u
    thats happened to Lara
    I have used my Swedish drivers license in both USA and Europe to collect my 10C tickets, no need for a passport.
    Okay, that's what I figured. Never heard of anyone turning down ID just because it was foreign.
    i couldnt even get into a bar with my greek id at chicago
    the big dude at the door said"i cant read shit at this"
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    What do you mean. Can't you just use your driver's license or other government ID from your own country??

    I think that she only had her passport on her, if she is in the US, she doesn't need her DL from Brazil-I think.

    When you come to the US, do you bring your DL and passport?
    when i travel out of the country and need to get my 10c tix,i carry my passport with me and leave my Greek id at the hotel,its useless to pick up tickets,its in Greek
    in case lost one,i have the other atleast..but tix,only with passport i can get them
    I don't think they'd refuse your ticket if you presented your DL Dimi. I seriously doubt it.
    I would never in a million years walk around a city with my passport, and that poor Brazilian girl's story is why. I guess if you've got it in a money belt strapped around your waist under your clothes it would be pretty safe. Otherwise, seems risky.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    WhyNotSweden wrote:
    I have used my Swedish drivers license in both USA and Europe to collect my 10C tickets, no need for a passport.
    Okay, that's what I figured. Never heard of anyone turning down ID just because it was foreign.
    i couldnt even get into a bar with my greek id at chicago
    the big dude at the door said"i cant read shit at this"
    Yeah, at a bar I can see that, but that's different; crap shoot at a bar.... Random Bouncer vs the people handing out 10C tix.
    Also.... You got ID'd?? Good for you! :lol:;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    acharding wrote:
    no one cares about the list if you are there all day.

    People only get pissed when people put their name on a list and then go party somewhere and come jump in front of the line 15 minutes before the doors open.
    ...
    And... most of the people around me did just that. They didn't go to the parties... they hung out at the arena. They used the porta pottys, went to the McDonalds, took a short nap in their car or walked around the grounds.
    The list protected the people in the middle and back of the line from people in the front of the line letting all of their snakey friends up front.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • bosshogg18
    bosshogg18 Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,100
    DSTURNERJR wrote:
    Someone tries to cut ahead of me with some list in their hands, I'm grabbing that list and making like Lou Brown in Major League when Roger Dorn handed him his contract.
    That's what I was thinking of when someone said to pee on the list.
    "Shuuuut up Dooorn."
  • acharding
    acharding Posts: 359
    Cosmo wrote:
    acharding wrote:
    no one cares about the list if you are there all day.

    People only get pissed when people put their name on a list and then go party somewhere and come jump in front of the line 15 minutes before the doors open.
    ...
    And... most of the people around me did just that. They didn't go to the parties... they hung out at the arena. They used the porta pottys, went to the McDonalds, took a short nap in their car or walked around the grounds.
    The list protected the people in the middle and back of the line from people in the front of the line letting all of their snakey friends up front.

    you were in the front of the line..again, I have no beef with the people that wait it out all day! You guys deserve your spot! but,try walking by the line and seeing only 20 people in line and thinking you have time to go to the preparty...showing back up about 100 from the door (which I was totally cool with)...and by the time the doors open you are 200 people back...because a bunch of people used their number and the list as an excuse to cut in line
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PJ_Soul wrote:
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    Yeah, at a bar I can see that, but that's different; crap shoot at a bar.... Random Bouncer vs the people handing out 10C tix.
    Also.... You got ID'd?? Good for you! :lol:;)
    yeah..i know i look like 23 years old.. :lol::lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • acharding
    acharding Posts: 359
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    [
    Yeah, at a bar I can see that, but that's different; crap shoot at a bar.... Random Bouncer vs the people handing out 10C tix.
    Also.... You got ID'd?? Good for you! :lol:;)
    yeah..i know i look like 23 years old.. :lol::lol:

    You mean that by now you can't simply show up at the box office and say "don't you know who I am?" :lol:
  • acharding
    acharding Posts: 359
    the "list" protects the faithful few at the front of the line and that's great...but it screws the middle and back by allowing people to get a number rather than earn a place in line..
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    acharding wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    [
    Yeah, at a bar I can see that, but that's different; crap shoot at a bar.... Random Bouncer vs the people handing out 10C tix.
    Also.... You got ID'd?? Good for you! :lol:;)
    yeah..i know i look like 23 years old.. :lol::lol:

    You mean that by now you can't simply show up at the box office and say "don't you know who I am?" :lol:
    no,i do that only backstage at dressing rooms :lol::lol::lol:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”

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