10c tickets are a joke

If you love GA, come over to Europe next summer.

Twiggy57 wrote:

Suziemay wrote:

hell_man_made wrote:

Yep, this is what I predicted would happen. I'm guessing not as many 10clubbers entered for GA tickets and went for reserved fearing they would be shut out if they just entered for GA (that's what I did). Then, if not all GA tickets were sold to 10 club, they would release the extras for general public. NOT a fan of this new system. I got side section almost halfway down in Buffalo on 166XXX and really felt sorry for the low number fans who were sitting way back behind the GA section. Not cool, imo.

Low fan #s in Buffalo were side stage, not back of floor.

I dont understand the fan numbers, you are talking about low fan/high fan. Does that mean that they actually look at the time when we became 10club fan member? :?

I never got/bought seat tickets, I think the vibe on the floor is zo much better.

for reserved seat allocation, yes. the longer you've been in 10c, the better your seats.

I didn't even know my 10c number until I decided to go to the US this year. europe's all GA anyway so it doesn't matter.

pjtour wrote:

There will always be "Ticketmaster" seats that are better than fan club, especially in venues with season ticket holders. People who pay big bucks for season tickets get an option at getting great seats to other events that come to the venue.

With that being said suck it up and enjoy the fact you have tickets period! Actually, when you at your next PJ concert and feeling so "MISTREATED" by the tickets you got from the fan club, take a look behind the stage...you will see me there, one damn happy Panda, rockin' hard and just glad to be at any PJ show period!

That hasn't always been true at PJ shows. "Season tickets" did not trump fan club people. Until these last couple of shows, the only time there was a ticketmaster ticket holder in my section was when the row had an odd number of seats and they dropped all the random single seats to the general public. Besides, the upside of being in a 10C section is that you're sitting with other die-hard fans, not random people who really like the singles, but don't realize how great it is that they just played I am Mine AND Grievance AND Down AND Sad AND Thumbing My Way.

Just because we get tickets that we pay for doesn't mean that we can't have feedback about how the tickets are distributed...

Im not buying the "season tickets" theory.

I am a season ticket holder for various things, and I never see a right of refusal for tickets for other events. Best case scenario is we get a presale code to buy tickets before the public.

I am a Sabres season ticket holder and never even got that for PJ

hamma wrote:

For those complaining about tm seats on the floor keep in mind some of those could have been production seats ie the soundboard area wasn't as big as planned and seats were added. or the 10 club seats weren't sold out in places like Charlottesville And went back to ticketmaster

Right, but 10C seats should be closer than TM seats. So even if 10C seats didn't sell out, there's no reason the closest seats shouldn't be given to 10C members in order of seniority rather than being released to the general public. At least, that's the way the system used to work. And that's what they said would happen this time in the reserved sections, too. 10 Club members were promised the same for this tour:

From the tour announcement email

Regarding the pit: "Ten Club has acquired the entire GA pit for fan club members only"

Regarding reserved seats: "Reserved seated tickets are assigned to members based on seniority in the Ten Club. Remember: public seated tickets fall behind the fan club seats, so no matter your seniority your fan club, seats still put you at an advantage."

This is not what has happened. Perhaps there should be a waitlist for 10 Club members who chose the show in their lottery but got shut out, so that the fan club allotment goes to willing and able fan club members if more tickets become available. And, again, the seat assignments shouldn't be made until the day of the show so that seating really is based on seniority, like they said it would be.

198xxx

I was about 10 rows up side stage (Mike's) in Worcester.

For Hartford, I was 3rd row behind GA on Stone's side.

I don't know what it means, but both seats were great. I'd prefer side stage seats, but had absolutely no issue with my Hartford seats.

GlttrGrrl wrote:

hamma wrote:

For those complaining about tm seats on the floor keep in mind some of those could have been production seats ie the soundboard area wasn't as big as planned and seats were added. or the 10 club seats weren't sold out in places like Charlottesville And went back to ticketmaster

Right, but 10C seats should be closer than TM seats. So even if 10C seats didn't sell out, there's no reason the closest seats shouldn't be given to 10C members in order of seniority rather than being released to the general public. At least, that's the way the system used to work. And that's what they said would happen this time in the reserved sections, too. 10 Club members were promised the same for this tour:

From the tour announcement email

Regarding the pit: "Ten Club has acquired the entire GA pit for fan club members only"

Regarding reserved seats: "Reserved seated tickets are assigned to members based on seniority in the Ten Club. Remember: public seated tickets fall behind the fan club seats, so no matter your seniority your fan club, seats still put you at an advantage."

This is not what has happened. Perhaps there should be a waitlist for 10 Club members who chose the show in their lottery but got shut out, so that the fan club allotment goes to willing and able fan club members if more tickets become available. And, again, the seat assignments shouldn't be made until the day of the show so that seating really is based on seniority, like they said it would be.

It would be impossible to process a waiting list and then assign all of the 10C tickets on the day of a show, especially since most bands don't release their held tickets until the afternoon of the show.

twisted thoughts wrote:

Question:

For those with good numbers who ended up on the floor behind GA... Did you choose GA for your first choice and Reserved 2nd choice for the show? I'm not sure if 10c would put that much thought into it, but I was just thinking that maybe if you had GA as your first choice, but got Reserved 2nd choice instead, they assumed maybe you'd prefer to be on the floor and thats why they put you there? I was one of the higher number members who ended up w/ a side wing in Hartford, but I went all in on Reserved and didnt put GA as a 2nd choice for that show.

I consider my number to be decent 208xxx, and I went reserved all the way. Never opted for GA and ended up behind the GA section for Philly 1.

I liked the view - I was dead center in front of Ed, but I did have to strain to see because of all the people in front of me. 95% of the other times I had 10 club tickets, I was first level side stage, so that's what I expected this time.

MayDay10 wrote:

Im not buying the "season tickets" theory.

I am a season ticket holder for various things, and I never see a right of refusal for tickets for other events. Best case scenario is we get a presale code to buy tickets before the public.

I am a Sabres season ticket holder and never even got that for PJ

It comes in to play at the amphitheaters, really shouldn't be a factor in the indoor arenas.