That's weird. I have 308xxx and was 8 rows back from GA in Hartford. Sound was great though!
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i think this is a function of people being able to get tickets to more than one show. your still getting some of the best seats in the house. better than the balcony.
I disagree. I'm 6'2. After about row 20 or 25 I wouldn't want to be on the floor. Your technically closer than the people in the nosebleeds at the end of the arena, but your on a very low plane, which means it's very hard to see the stage. Lots of heads, arms etc....
i got section 4 in Hartford. back right. couldn't believe it. went for reserved thinking, I'm old, Pearl Jam plays long, side section will be mint. not. the first set was beyond smokin and hearing was better than seeing. still lame tickets though!
What is your number? I have a thread going and some guy with 260xxx got wing seats about 20 rows up in Hartford
i'm 474xxx
i could have bought outside for face value and sat where i wanted.
oh well
Sounded like the cutoff for side seats to the reserved floor was around 200xxx for Baltimore. Front row of reserved floor was low 200's. I was on the side in 108 and the sound was pretty lousy after the first few songs in the main set, but got better for the encores. Those side seats are between the main stacks facing the floor and the stacks facing the side/back wings so it's not ideal for sound but the view is better than all except perhaps the first five rows of the reserved floor. I was kind of hoping to be in the first row of the reserved floor at Baltimore (they were all leaning on the barrier and seemed to have a good view since the back of the GA floor is pretty open), but my number was just below those (so I got some of the last seats on the side, which were still awesome, just not the best sound for some of it but that could have been the mix as well since it seemed to get better).
As far as getting rid of GA, I don't think that's going to happen. The energy of the people up front and the fact that they're willing to spend the day sitting outside to get on the rail is making for a new dynamic up there. The 10C tried to change it with the lottery for the first two rows, but I'd seen enough shows with the low number folks looking bored unless there was something rare played that it has to make it more fun for the band to have people going crazy the whole show, even for Evenflow (as opposed to the guy in Chicago 09 night 2 who wore a shirt requesting that they not play Evenflow - funny, yes, but Eddie told him to fuck off after they played it).
Come on, dude. That's just crazy talk. GA has been fucking awesome. When you get it next time around, you'll be eating your words. Plus, I think it's really energized the shows and that makes it better for all of us, no matter where you're sitting.
I don't think that I will ever choose GA but I can tell you that I would be incredibly disappointed if they got rid of it. I doubt that is even a possibility now but the energy that it has added to the band and to these shows cannot be understated. It's done wonders for the experience.
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For what it's worth, I went to both Seattle shows in 2009 and it was clear that my tickets were messed up for the second night. I inquired and the Ten Club said that there was a mistake and gave me a free year's membership and a free download of my choice. You might want to look into that.
And I'm 164,xxx and I'd be upset if my seats are behind GA for any of the shows I'm going to. I had assumed I'd be on the wings.
Come on, dude. That's just crazy talk. GA has been fucking awesome. When you get it next time around, you'll be eating your words. Plus, I think it's really energized the shows and that makes it better for all of us, no matter where you're sitting.
Dude, shows have never lacked energy...and I chose reserved so I don't have to stand in line all day and run over some one to get to the rail. Don't worry, I'm out numbered, so i'm pretty sure they will keep it.
I'm with you. I'm not a fan of any GA shows. Because of my PTSD I can't handle GA shows. I need my space large groups of people crammed together is not my thing.
I'm 184,xxx and ended up in the sec2, row A (first row behind GA) for Hartford. We had a great time, but...
I get that people love/want GA. What I don't understand is how 10C can possibly think putting people behind GA are putting them into "some of the best seats in the house." This thought process is completely baffling to me and IMO is entirely not the case. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that 99% of people who opted for reserved (over GA) wanted seats on on the sides, NOT behind the pit. Come on....
Here's a reasonable solution. Still offer a GA pit to club members but make all reserved tickets In the wings. Seems like a reasonable and very doable thing. Sell the seats behind the pit to the general public.
this is crazy...there has to be something wrong with the system.
maybe just because I am short, but I would rather be on the wings across from the seated floor area vs. being on the floor behind GA.
I had expected my seats to be on the floor behind GA in Hartford due to the popularity of the show and the fact that there are many long time members in this area. My number is 401xxx and I ended up in Sec. 117 Row J. The last section before the seats take a corner and go towards the back end of the arena across from the stage, but being in the wings you are elevated from the crowd and have a great view. Also being that far back, the sound is awesome.
And just one more zinger... Worcester 1 I got TM seats - 2nd row behind GA... I pulled those at 3pm on the day of the show. I later read that there were 10c members behind me.
WTF?
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Wow, it is a bit disappointing to hear that good 10C numbers are getting the floor seats behind GA. These will not be great seats for short people like me. Fingers crossed for the wings.
But at least I will be in the building.
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Like I said, my floor sears were good, dead center but did feel it the next day having to stand on yippie toes all night long. If I knew I was going to be on the floor I would have opted for GA.
I think if you have reserved for any of upcoming shows you should count/plan on being behind the pit, that way if/when it does happen you're not disappointed. That's what I did, after reading a couple posts where fanclub numbers similar to mine ended up with 10C seats behind the pit. And if you do end up in the wings, count your blessings and be very happy.
I do think we need to let 10C hear our voices on this. Future tours, GA would be pit only, reserved would be wings only.
Wow, it is a bit disappointing to hear that good 10C numbers are getting the floor seats behind GA. These will not be great seats for short people like me. Fingers crossed for the wings.
But at least I will be in the building.
That's the spirit! I am #213,xxx and was in section 3, 5th row, behind GA, in Hartford. I am 5'3" so I'll admit I was disappointed when I picked up my tickets and saw that I wasn't in the wings. I was even still slightly bummed...until the show started! I found that I could see and the energy and sound around me was incredible! Being on the floor and seeing the whole arena rocking and cheering and singing was an amazing experience that I won't ever forget. Have fun everyone who has yet to see them -- I'm jealous!
Come on, dude. That's just crazy talk. GA has been fucking awesome. When you get it next time around, you'll be eating your words. Plus, I think it's really energized the shows and that makes it better for all of us, no matter where you're sitting.
Dude, shows have never lacked energy...and I chose reserved so I don't have to stand in line all day and run over some one to get to the rail. Don't worry, I'm out numbered, so i'm pretty sure they will keep it.
Don't get me wrong. We had an amazing time at Hartford behind the pit. We were there, the crowd around us was awesome, the band was amazing, etc.
My point is that I think people need to reset any expectations of having "some of the best seats in the house" because I personally do not feel that behing behind the pit is even close to that.
My point is that I think people need to reset any expectations of having "some of the best seats in the house" because I personally do not feel that behing behind the pit is even close to that.
thats the thing.
without GA it was easy to gauge where my seats would be based on location, # of total shows, venue, etc..
but now, it is an "lottery" within a lottery. If Im in the wings its great. Back behind GA, I would much prefer any seated area including side/back stage. I am 5'5" and the wife is 5'0". Staring at someone's back for 3 hours sucks.
hmm- I'm assuming you hadn't sat in your seats prior to posting this. I have 189xxx and was on the floor in Hartford 3 rows behind GA. Best seats of the tour for me. Had great side seats in Worcester but Floor was sick. more part of the show, the energy was awesome and site lines were perfect.
I got tickets for tonight in Charlottesville on the floor? Behind the pit
And now ticketmaster is releasing floor tickets that are better than 10c tickets.
I have a ok # 158xxx. But shouldn't be surprised my fan club tickets have gradually gotten worse
since 03.
Not only that but revert back to 1 set of 10C tickets per tour like the 2000 tour. That effectively gve people a home-advantage and everybody got a very-good to great seat. Then, for all other shows, T/M. Your luck with T/M may exceed your luck with the current petition/lottery for 10c shows.
You nailed it. One show for 10c, the rest you takes your chances.
Not only that but revert back to 1 set of 10C tickets per tour like the 2000 tour. That effectively gve people a home-advantage and everybody got a very-good to great seat. Then, for all other shows, T/M. Your luck with T/M may exceed your luck with the current petition/lottery for 10c shows.
You nailed it. One show for 10c, the rest you takes your chances.
If it was such a good system, why hasn't it happend for more than 13 years?
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Why hasn't it happened in 13 years? One thing I applaud 10c for is trying new ideas to be more accommodating. People wanted multiple shows. Maybe the volume wasn't anticipated. In 2003, 10c allowed multiple shows and the huge volume pushed people to the rear floor. Then, the complaint was that 10c seats were worse than T/M because at least in the wings, you could see. So in 2005/2006, 10c went up the sides, not rear floor. Now they are trying GA and it seems like we're back to rear floor. Then I reflected upon LA 2009. 4 shows and for 10c tickets, you could only pick 1 show. That was sort of like 2000 within LA. Wow, the seats were great compared with other shows that tour. I like all the efforts to try things and sometimes things come full circle. Someone will complain about anything. I remember when shows weren't announced all at once and people complained about their inability to make travel plans. Seriously? I just think 1 show per tour and T/M for the rest may be worth looking at again. Again, I thank 10c for trying to be accommodating and trying things.
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Yeah i feel bad complaining but in philly i was a little disappointed with the seats. Reason i went for reserved is because i thought i would get wing tickets and my wife is short so wanted her to see. Of course i get the tickets and im sect 1 row 7 (mikes side behind GA on the floor) so i was a bit pissed cause i would have just gone for GA if i was gonna be on the floor. My # is 205xxx on the second night i had to go through TM and help of other fans and finally got a ticket which was Row 1 of the lower bowl about 4 rows behind where i sat on the stage. I could see much better and overall a better seat (didnt have anyone pee on me and had a drink holder so drunk a holes didnt knock over my drinks).
All other shows i have been on the wing and have been great seats.
I scored GA for BK 2 and Woo 2, but I got reserved for Philly 2. My Philly two tickets were like 10 rows back from GA on the floor. My number is 403xxx. How this is possible....idk?
Yeah i feel bad complaining but in philly i was a little disappointed with the seats. Reason i went for reserved is because i thought i would get wing tickets and my wife is short so wanted her to see. Of course i get the tickets and im sect 1 row 7 (mikes side behind GA on the floor) so i was a bit pissed cause i would have just gone for GA if i was gonna be on the floor. My # is 205xxx on the second night i had to go through TM and help of other fans and finally got a ticket which was Row 1 of the lower bowl about 4 rows behind where i sat on the stage. I could see much better and overall a better seat (didnt have anyone pee on me and had a drink holder so drunk a holes didnt knock over my drinks).
All other shows i have been on the wing and have been great seats.
Exactly my situation. I am average height, wife is short. Based on what I'm seeing in other posts it appears we'll be on the floor behing GA. I looked at T/M's LA Sports Arena map and the GA is large. If we are behind GA, we'll be really far back. I noticed a small sliver of seats along the sides of the floor. Can only hope those are sloped as small risers. Hope to get these or anything off of the floor. I want my wife to enjoy it. I would rather be in the rafters opposite the stage in the nosebleeds than on the rear floor. Especially for my wife.
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I disagree. I'm 6'2. After about row 20 or 25 I wouldn't want to be on the floor. Your technically closer than the people in the nosebleeds at the end of the arena, but your on a very low plane, which means it's very hard to see the stage. Lots of heads, arms etc....
i'm 474xxx
i could have bought outside for face value and sat where i wanted.
oh well
I don't think that I will ever choose GA but I can tell you that I would be incredibly disappointed if they got rid of it. I doubt that is even a possibility now but the energy that it has added to the band and to these shows cannot be understated. It's done wonders for the experience.
And I'm 164,xxx and I'd be upset if my seats are behind GA for any of the shows I'm going to. I had assumed I'd be on the wings.
I'm with you. I'm not a fan of any GA shows. Because of my PTSD I can't handle GA shows. I need my space large groups of people crammed together is not my thing.
I get that people love/want GA. What I don't understand is how 10C can possibly think putting people behind GA are putting them into "some of the best seats in the house." This thought process is completely baffling to me and IMO is entirely not the case. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that 99% of people who opted for reserved (over GA) wanted seats on on the sides, NOT behind the pit. Come on....
Here's a reasonable solution. Still offer a GA pit to club members but make all reserved tickets In the wings. Seems like a reasonable and very doable thing. Sell the seats behind the pit to the general public.
Do you think they are putting people with low 10C #'s (less than 200,000) in the first few rows behind the GA in the smaller GA setup?
For the Buffalo show, the GA section went almost as far back at the sound board. For the Brooklyn shows, it only went about half as far back.
I agree completely, putting people behind the GA section is a joke.
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maybe just because I am short, but I would rather be on the wings across from the seated floor area vs. being on the floor behind GA.
I had expected my seats to be on the floor behind GA in Hartford due to the popularity of the show and the fact that there are many long time members in this area. My number is 401xxx and I ended up in Sec. 117 Row J. The last section before the seats take a corner and go towards the back end of the arena across from the stage, but being in the wings you are elevated from the crowd and have a great view. Also being that far back, the sound is awesome.
And just one more zinger... Worcester 1 I got TM seats - 2nd row behind GA... I pulled those at 3pm on the day of the show. I later read that there were 10c members behind me.
WTF?
But at least I will be in the building.
I do think we need to let 10C hear our voices on this. Future tours, GA would be pit only, reserved would be wings only.
That's the spirit! I am #213,xxx and was in section 3, 5th row, behind GA, in Hartford. I am 5'3" so I'll admit I was disappointed when I picked up my tickets and saw that I wasn't in the wings. I was even still slightly bummed...until the show started! I found that I could see and the energy and sound around me was incredible! Being on the floor and seeing the whole arena rocking and cheering and singing was an amazing experience that I won't ever forget. Have fun everyone who has yet to see them -- I'm jealous!
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I agree with you
My point is that I think people need to reset any expectations of having "some of the best seats in the house" because I personally do not feel that behing behind the pit is even close to that.
thats the thing.
without GA it was easy to gauge where my seats would be based on location, # of total shows, venue, etc..
but now, it is an "lottery" within a lottery. If Im in the wings its great. Back behind GA, I would much prefer any seated area including side/back stage. I am 5'5" and the wife is 5'0". Staring at someone's back for 3 hours sucks.
+100
You nailed it. One show for 10c, the rest you takes your chances.
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Offer pool for GA
Offer pool for reserved seats
Offer pool for back of floor
maybe even add, you can only score GA and reserved seats for 1 show. Back of floor are open for multiples
If it was such a good system, why hasn't it happend for more than 13 years?
All other shows i have been on the wing and have been great seats.
Exactly my situation. I am average height, wife is short. Based on what I'm seeing in other posts it appears we'll be on the floor behing GA. I looked at T/M's LA Sports Arena map and the GA is large. If we are behind GA, we'll be really far back. I noticed a small sliver of seats along the sides of the floor. Can only hope those are sloped as small risers. Hope to get these or anything off of the floor. I want my wife to enjoy it. I would rather be in the rafters opposite the stage in the nosebleeds than on the rear floor. Especially for my wife.