I don't think Unthought Known should be played this much

PJ_Soul · October 2013

Indifference71 wrote:

Big Bank Hank wrote:

nope just rather hear other songs more, because I think there are better songs in their catalog not being played, pretty simple actually, you are reading more into this than really what is there

You don't like Unthought known. We get it. But, a lot of people do and you can't seem to handle that. So what's the fucking point of this thread?

I think he just wanted to talk about it.... why not just let him do so in peace?? You don't have to get in on the conversation if you don't see any point in it.

PJ_Soul · October 2013

the tiki bomb wrote:

so what you're saying is you're down for a Phoenix UK opener, followed by Ole AND Johnny Guitar. Hopefully then you'll leave and let everyone else ENJOY themselves.

Because he actively makes it so that everyone else cannot enjoy themselves when he doesn't like the song being played?? ... I don't think his opinion impacts you or anyone else, does it??

Big Bank Hank · October 2013

PJ_Soul wrote:

the tiki bomb wrote:

so what you're saying is you're down for a Phoenix UK opener, followed by Ole AND Johnny Guitar. Hopefully then you'll leave and let everyone else ENJOY themselves.

Because he actively makes it so that everyone else cannot enjoy themselves when he doesn't like the song being played?? ... I don't think his opinion impacts you or anyone else, does it??

it is not even about UK being played, it is about all the songs not being played

Big Bank Hank · October 2013

PJ_Soul wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

Big Bank Hank wrote:

nope just rather hear other songs more, because I think there are better songs in their catalog not being played, pretty simple actually, you are reading more into this than really what is there

You don't like Unthought known. We get it. But, a lot of people do and you can't seem to handle that. So what's the fucking point of this thread?

I think he just wanted to talk about it.... why not just let him do so in peace?? You don't have to get in on the conversation if you don't see any point in it.

thanks Soul

PJ_Soul · October 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

the tiki bomb wrote:

so what you're saying is you're down for a Phoenix UK opener, followed by Ole AND Johnny Guitar. Hopefully then you'll leave and let everyone else ENJOY themselves.

Because he actively makes it so that everyone else cannot enjoy themselves when he doesn't like the song being played?? ... I don't think his opinion impacts you or anyone else, does it??

it is not even about UK being played, it is about all the songs not being played

Yeah, I see your point. I don't mind them playing it regularly just because I do recognize that some people are nuts for this song. I would also rather hear a lot of other things though.

SPEEDY MCCREADY · October 2013

Personally, I think they should open with Unthought known, and then close with Unthought Known.
And they can play it in the middle of the set too.

Great song.

luismota123 · October 2013

I really like this song and is the #2 song for me on Backspacer behind Fixer.

PJForceofNature · October 2013

I loved hearing it in Hartford last night!!

Daron Oshay · October 2013

PJForceofNature wrote:

I loved hearing it in Hartford last night!!

Was pretty great last night

PJForceofNature · October 2013

I thought the crowd was really into it last night-I enjoy it so much!

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn · October 2013

PJForceofNature wrote:

I thought the crowd was really into it last night-I enjoy it so much!

Into it is an understatement! I was behind the stage people went crazy for UNthought Known!

OceansJenny · October 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

there are so many great Pearl Jam songs that rarely get played and now you want to play Unthought Known nearly every show, if you guys want to add a song to the regular rotation, pick a great song like In Hiding, I mean seriously, maybe he is playing it for his daughters because it is basically a kid's song, and they are on tour with him, and if that is the case then I give Eddie a pass if he is being a good dad and playing it for his kids, but I really don't think it is the caliber of song that should be played nearly every show

Maybe the band actually likes the song and feels the meaning in it, and isn't just picking a random "rare" song like In Hiding which they may not be interested in playing at the moment. You may think the show is for you, but for the band to perform their best, they have to FEEL each song.

ckravitz · October 2013

The band likes crowd involvement. There are MORE Pearl Jam fans that are casual fans than there are fans that spend all day on this website and all day listening to Pearl Jam. This is not criticism of the latter group, I'm one of them. But let's be honest, of the xxx songs (pick a number) that are "better" (terrible adjective to use for music btw) than UK, how many are going to be recognizable and generate that same involvement from the casual fans? We like to hear songs like Wash and Alone, but guess what, if those were the only types of songs they played in concert, the arenas would eventually be half empty. There's plenty of stuff for the hardcore, so is it so awful that a song like UK, which is clearly a crowd pleaser, is taking up one slot? The point is that the relative "quality" of a song is not necessarily what determines if they play it so the whole line of discussion is almost moot anyway.

And just to be clear, I'm in no way suggesting that liking or disliking UK has any bearing of whether a person is a hardcore fan or not. I am making a generality that casual fans know and recognize this song, and quite honestly mostly expect to hear it when they go to a PJ concert.

LiteTheMatch · October 2013

Keep your Thoughts Unknown

fugawzi · October 2013

I like Unthought Known, think it's a great live song. Kinda surprised at some of the hostility I'm seeing towards Unthought. I'm not saying you can't like a PJ song there are certain ones for everyone.

Off topic but I would love to hear more Force of Nature. They can play what they want just keep playing!

Daron Oshay · October 2013

ckravitz wrote:

The band likes crowd involvement. There are MORE Pearl Jam fans that are casual fans than there are fans that spend all day on this website and all day listening to Pearl Jam. This is not criticism of the latter group, I'm one of them. But let's be honest, of the xxx songs (pick a number) that are "better" (terrible adjective to use for music btw) than UK, how many are going to be recognizable and generate that same involvement from the casual fans? We like to hear songs like Wash and Alone, but guess what, if those were the only types of songs they played in concert, the arenas would eventually be half empty. There's plenty of stuff for the hardcore, so is it so awful that a song like UK, which is clearly a crowd pleaser, is taking up one slot? The point is that the relative "quality" of a song is not necessarily what determines if they play it so the whole line of discussion is almost moot anyway.

And just to be clear, I'm in no way suggesting that liking or disliking UK has any bearing of whether a person is a hardcore fan or not. I am making a generality that casual fans know and recognize this song, and quite honestly mostly expect to hear it when they go to a PJ concert.

Probably one of the smartest post I've ever read on here

Big Bank Hank · October 2013

thanks Eddie from 20 years ago I feel the same way about Unthought Known
http://youtu.be/QZ4NfnxrIX0?t=4m37s

having said that I respect all of you who want UK played every show, I just happen to feel like Eddie from 1993, no big deal, just make the song longer so I have more time to take a piss

smanchac1 · October 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

thanks Eddie from 20 years ago I feel the same way about Unthought Known
http://youtu.be/QZ4NfnxrIX0?t=4m37s

having said that I respect all of you who want UK played every show, I just happen to feel like Eddie from 1993, no big deal, just make the song longer so I have more time to take a piss

This post should read

"I just want attention, even if its bad I'd rather have people disagree with me than ignore me"

Your comments have no weight to them because you never listen to anyone else's opinion and continue to repeat the same thing over and over again, even when it seems EVERYONE disagrees with you.

Tell me this hank. How many pearl jam concerts have you been at where they play UK? Because from past comments you haven't been to a show since backspacer was released. So how do you even know what you are talking about?

UK may look boring to someone, on paper, when all they do is watch YouTube all day and the same songs can get tiresome.. But actually being in the building is a complete different matter when it comes to this song. The crowd is what makes this song enjoyable in concert. Maybe that's why you can't connect with this it.

And who are you to decide what the band should play? I don't think it is up to you. Not even a little bit.

Big Bank Hank · October 2013

smanchac1 wrote:

Big Bank Hank wrote:

thanks Eddie from 20 years ago I feel the same way about Unthought Known
http://youtu.be/QZ4NfnxrIX0?t=4m37s

having said that I respect all of you who want UK played every show, I just happen to feel like Eddie from 1993, no big deal, just make the song longer so I have more time to take a piss

This post should read

"I just want attention, even if its bad I'd rather have people disagree with me than ignore me"

Your comments have no weight to them because you never listen to anyone else's opinion and continue to repeat the same thing over and over again, even when it seems EVERYONE disagrees with you.

Tell me this hank. How many pearl jam concerts have you been at where they play UK? Because from past comments you haven't been to a show since backspacer was released. So how do you even know what you are talking about?

UK may look boring to someone, on paper, when all they do is watch YouTube all day and the same songs can get tiresome.. But actually being in the building is a complete different matter when it comes to this song. The crowd is what makes this song enjoyable in concert. Maybe that's why you can't connect with this it.

And who are you to decide what the band should play? I don't think it is up to you. Not even a little bit.

true I have not been to any shows since Las Vegas 2006, and when they play Phoenix this year I guess I will find out, but hearing it on the boots, it seems like an average song in their catalog, would much rather hear Love Boat Captain, but when I see it in Phoenix and I promise to give it an open mind, and maybe it will blow me away, I just hate that any song gets over played because it means other songs don't get played, and I like UK just not to this extreme level, I happen to enjoy at least 97% of Pearl Jam's catalog, so when they play a song over and over, it means I missed out on another song I could of hear instead

smanchac1 · October 2013

Big Bank Hank wrote:

smanchac1 wrote:

Big Bank Hank wrote:

thanks Eddie from 20 years ago I feel the same way about Unthought Known
http://youtu.be/QZ4NfnxrIX0?t=4m37s

having said that I respect all of you who want UK played every show, I just happen to feel like Eddie from 1993, no big deal, just make the song longer so I have more time to take a piss

This post should read

"I just want attention, even if its bad I'd rather have people disagree with me than ignore me"

Your comments have no weight to them because you never listen to anyone else's opinion and continue to repeat the same thing over and over again, even when it seems EVERYONE disagrees with you.

Tell me this hank. How many pearl jam concerts have you been at where they play UK? Because from past comments you haven't been to a show since backspacer was released. So how do you even know what you are talking about?

UK may look boring to someone, on paper, when all they do is watch YouTube all day and the same songs can get tiresome.. But actually being in the building is a complete different matter when it comes to this song. The crowd is what makes this song enjoyable in concert. Maybe that's why you can't connect with this it.

And who are you to decide what the band should play? I don't think it is up to you. Not even a little bit.

true I have not been to any shows since Las Vegas 2006, and when they play Phoenix this year I guess I will find out, but hearing it on the boots, it seems like an average song in their catalog, would much rather hear Love Boat Captain, but when I see it in Phoenix and I promise to give it an open mind, and maybe it will blow me away, I just hate that any song gets over played because it means other songs don't get played, and I like UK just not to this extreme level, I happen to enjoy at least 97% of Pearl Jam's catalog, so when they play a song over and over, it means I missed out on another song I could of hear instead

Thanks man. That's all ill ask of you is to give it a chance.

And yea - I agree that it could be every other night or once out of 3, with the amount of songs they have. But, since Ed is usually making setlists, I guess he enjoys the crowd reaction and the energy it brings. It's a good song! It doesn't feel forced in the way amongst the waves does..
Which is a song I know you love. So it's really a matter of opinion and many people will have different ones. Just have to accept that or else you'll waste alot of unnecessary energy on something you can change anyway.

Glad to see you will have an open mind. I bet you will find yourself enjoyin it when the crowd screams those lines

I don't think Unthought Known should be played this much

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