Fuck the World...NIN IS BACK!!!!

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    PJ_Soul wrote:

    A month and two days for me :D
    Ugh! Nearly 3 months for me!

    Sucks.

    Hehehehe. First show of the tension tour.

    Hehehehehe.
    I always get the dregs of tours on the west coast. :fp:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    "Everything" is kind of growing on me. I like its placement on the album
  • choop
    choop Posts: 1,060
    great album. the flow is perfect in my opinion, although i'm not in love with a few of the songs.

    i think the time off really benefitted trent. i've said in this thread before, i'm not the biggest NIN fan, but my wife is. i wouldn't be surprised if i like this album better than lightning bolt at the end of the day.
    "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music." KV Jr.
  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    Upon first listen, I do like it. It drags in a couple of places but overall a good album. I would definitely call it minimalistic. Standout tracks for me are Copy of A, Everything, Satellite, Various Methods of Escape and Running.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,269
    Me likey :D

    I only listened to it once, so can't really say what song i liked the most. Overall highly liked. Better than their last album anyway (which was good).
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
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    9/2/18- Boston, MA
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    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Me likey :D

    I only listened to it once, so can't really say what song i liked the most. Overall highly liked. Better than their last album anyway (which was good).
    Hesitation Marks is a pretty good album. I only listened to it once and I'm sure that each listen will make me love this album more than the last. I am amazed with some of the negative comments I'm reading on the Facebook fan page of NIN. I'm reading comments like Hesitation Marks is not good because it's not like Downward Spiral or Trent Reznor is not on drug. I mean, seriously?!?!?! :fp:
  • Btw, there is a contest to win a pair of tickets to go see a private Nine Inch Nails concert at The Troubadour in Los Angeles, California on September 3 (the day Hesitation Marks is released). I will be unable to participate since I live in Toronto and I will start my final semester of college.

    http://kroq.cbslocal.com/enter-to-win-t ... roubadour/
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,269
    Btw, there is a contest to win a pair of tickets to go see a private Nine Inch Nails concert at The Troubadour in Los Angeles, California on September 3 (the day Hesitation Marks is released). I will be unable to participate since I live in Toronto and I will start my final semester of college.

    http://kroq.cbslocal.com/enter-to-win-t ... roubadour/

    saw that as well, if i lived near there i'd enter.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Me likey :D

    I only listened to it once, so can't really say what song i liked the most. Overall highly liked. Better than their last album anyway (which was good).
    Hesitation Marks is a pretty good album. I only listened to it once and I'm sure that each listen will make me love this album more than the last. I am amazed with some of the negative comments I'm reading on the Facebook fan page of NIN. I'm reading comments like Hesitation Marks is not good because it's not like Downward Spiral or Trent Reznor is not on drug. I mean, seriously?!?!?! :fp:

    I would have preferred something more aggressive. But that's not what Trent wanted to do. He also recently said in an interview that he tried putting in loud guitars with the arrangements and it didn't sound right to him.

    Understandable. Still a good album with top of the line electronic work as always.

    Enjoying it.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,269
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Me likey :D

    I only listened to it once, so can't really say what song i liked the most. Overall highly liked. Better than their last album anyway (which was good).
    Hesitation Marks is a pretty good album. I only listened to it once and I'm sure that each listen will make me love this album more than the last. I am amazed with some of the negative comments I'm reading on the Facebook fan page of NIN. I'm reading comments like Hesitation Marks is not good because it's not like Downward Spiral or Trent Reznor is not on drug. I mean, seriously?!?!?! :fp:

    I would have preferred something more aggressive. But that's not what Trent wanted to do. He also recently said in an interview that he tried putting in loud guitars with the arrangements and it didn't sound right to him.

    Understandable. Still a good album with top of the line electronic work as always.

    Enjoying it.
    "I would have preferred something more aggressive. But that's not what Trent wanted to do. He also recently said in an interview that he tried putting in loud guitars with the arrangements and it didn't sound right to him."

    Interesting. Trent can always consider putting loud guitars for his next NIN album, but that may not be released for at least awhile.

    It is strange how it has been over five already since The Slip has been released, yet I was never really impatient for the band to come back. Maybe it is because I have matured a lot. I remember getting impatient for Metallica releasing their new album, which would be titled Death Magnetic and it was finally released on September 12, 2008. They haven't released a new studio album since (except their collaboration with Lou Reed in 2011, which I was never really interested in and heard it was really bad) but for some reason, I am not upset with their lack of new releases despite the fact that they are my favourite band. Though they did say that their next album may only be released in 2015.
  • Interesting:
    Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through nin.com. For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.

    Alan Moulder, who mixed the album, offers a more detailed explanation:

    When we were mixing Hesitation Marks we decided to treat the mastering process in a slightly different way to the usual. Since we had tried to treat every other aspect of making this record differently to how we were used to, it seemed to make sense. We were mixing as we went along with the production of each song rather than at the end, so we thought that once we had a song pretty close we would send it off to Tom Baker, our long time serving mastering engineer, to give it some mastering treatment. Normally you wait until the record is finished being recorded and mixed, then take all the mixes to mastering. But we thought doing it again, as we went along, might make us push the process further and spend more time on mastering rather than rush through it at the end. Whilst doing this we became aware of how much low bass information there was on the record. Since that can define how loud of a level the mastering can be, we were faced with a dilemma: do we keep the bass and and have a significantly lower level record, or do we sacrifice the bass for a more competitive level of volume? The biggest issue in mastering these days tends to be how loud can you make your record. It is a fact that when listening back-to-back, loud records will come across more impressively, although in the long run what you sacrifice for that level can be quality and fidelity. So after much discussion we decided to go with two versions. On the main release Tom did exceptional work to maintain the integrity of our mixes and reproduce the low end as much as possible and still get a decent level, although it’s still nowhere as loud as a lot of modern records. The Audiophile Mastered Version is more true to how the mixes sounded to us in the studio when we were working on the songs. Have a listen, turn up the volume and enjoy the experience!

    Mastering Engineer Tom Baker adds:
    I believe it was Trent’s idea to master the album two different ways, and to my knowledge it has never been done before.
    The standard version is “loud” and more aggressive and has more of a bite or edge to the sound with a tighter low end.
    The Audiophile Mastered Version highlights the mixes as they are without compromising the dynamics and low end, and not being concerned about how “loud” the album would be. The goal was to simply allow the mixes to retain the spatial relationship between instruments and the robust, grandiose sound.

    NOTE: The standard mastered version is in no way inferior to the Audiophile Version - we wouldn’t release something inferior as the default. And vinyl purists rest assured, the vinyl edition was mastered to sound the very best for that format. The Audiophile Version is merely an alternate take on the mastering, which some people will appreciate. It’s meant to give a slightly different experience, not denigrate the standard version. Listen to each and come to your own conclusions.
    If you ordered any format of Hesitation Marks from nin.com, you’ll be able to download one or both mastering versions, in whichever formats you prefer (MP3, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and WAV), beginning September 3rd.
    Tell the captain
    'This boats not safe
    And we're drowning.'
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Interesting:
    Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through nin.com. For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.

    Alan Moulder, who mixed the album, offers a more detailed explanation:

    When we were mixing Hesitation Marks we decided to treat the mastering process in a slightly different way to the usual. Since we had tried to treat every other aspect of making this record differently to how we were used to, it seemed to make sense. We were mixing as we went along with the production of each song rather than at the end, so we thought that once we had a song pretty close we would send it off to Tom Baker, our long time serving mastering engineer, to give it some mastering treatment. Normally you wait until the record is finished being recorded and mixed, then take all the mixes to mastering. But we thought doing it again, as we went along, might make us push the process further and spend more time on mastering rather than rush through it at the end. Whilst doing this we became aware of how much low bass information there was on the record. Since that can define how loud of a level the mastering can be, we were faced with a dilemma: do we keep the bass and and have a significantly lower level record, or do we sacrifice the bass for a more competitive level of volume? The biggest issue in mastering these days tends to be how loud can you make your record. It is a fact that when listening back-to-back, loud records will come across more impressively, although in the long run what you sacrifice for that level can be quality and fidelity. So after much discussion we decided to go with two versions. On the main release Tom did exceptional work to maintain the integrity of our mixes and reproduce the low end as much as possible and still get a decent level, although it’s still nowhere as loud as a lot of modern records. The Audiophile Mastered Version is more true to how the mixes sounded to us in the studio when we were working on the songs. Have a listen, turn up the volume and enjoy the experience!

    Mastering Engineer Tom Baker adds:
    I believe it was Trent’s idea to master the album two different ways, and to my knowledge it has never been done before.
    The standard version is “loud” and more aggressive and has more of a bite or edge to the sound with a tighter low end.
    The Audiophile Mastered Version highlights the mixes as they are without compromising the dynamics and low end, and not being concerned about how “loud” the album would be. The goal was to simply allow the mixes to retain the spatial relationship between instruments and the robust, grandiose sound.

    NOTE: The standard mastered version is in no way inferior to the Audiophile Version - we wouldn’t release something inferior as the default. And vinyl purists rest assured, the vinyl edition was mastered to sound the very best for that format. The Audiophile Version is merely an alternate take on the mastering, which some people will appreciate. It’s meant to give a slightly different experience, not denigrate the standard version. Listen to each and come to your own conclusions.
    If you ordered any format of Hesitation Marks from nin.com, you’ll be able to download one or both mastering versions, in whichever formats you prefer (MP3, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and WAV), beginning September 3rd.

    Time to change where I am preordering from
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    Interesting:
    Hesitation Marks was mastered in two different ways - the standard, “loud” mastering (which is what you’ll find on the CD, on iTunes, and everywhere else), and also an alternate “audiophile” mastering, which we’re offering as a free download option for anyone who purchases the album through nin.com. For the majority of people, the standard version will be preferable and differences will be difficult to detect. Audiophiles with high-end equipment and an understanding of the mastering process might prefer the alternate version.

    Alan Moulder, who mixed the album, offers a more detailed explanation:

    When we were mixing Hesitation Marks we decided to treat the mastering process in a slightly different way to the usual. Since we had tried to treat every other aspect of making this record differently to how we were used to, it seemed to make sense. We were mixing as we went along with the production of each song rather than at the end, so we thought that once we had a song pretty close we would send it off to Tom Baker, our long time serving mastering engineer, to give it some mastering treatment. Normally you wait until the record is finished being recorded and mixed, then take all the mixes to mastering. But we thought doing it again, as we went along, might make us push the process further and spend more time on mastering rather than rush through it at the end. Whilst doing this we became aware of how much low bass information there was on the record. Since that can define how loud of a level the mastering can be, we were faced with a dilemma: do we keep the bass and and have a significantly lower level record, or do we sacrifice the bass for a more competitive level of volume? The biggest issue in mastering these days tends to be how loud can you make your record. It is a fact that when listening back-to-back, loud records will come across more impressively, although in the long run what you sacrifice for that level can be quality and fidelity. So after much discussion we decided to go with two versions. On the main release Tom did exceptional work to maintain the integrity of our mixes and reproduce the low end as much as possible and still get a decent level, although it’s still nowhere as loud as a lot of modern records. The Audiophile Mastered Version is more true to how the mixes sounded to us in the studio when we were working on the songs. Have a listen, turn up the volume and enjoy the experience!

    Mastering Engineer Tom Baker adds:
    I believe it was Trent’s idea to master the album two different ways, and to my knowledge it has never been done before.
    The standard version is “loud” and more aggressive and has more of a bite or edge to the sound with a tighter low end.
    The Audiophile Mastered Version highlights the mixes as they are without compromising the dynamics and low end, and not being concerned about how “loud” the album would be. The goal was to simply allow the mixes to retain the spatial relationship between instruments and the robust, grandiose sound.

    NOTE: The standard mastered version is in no way inferior to the Audiophile Version - we wouldn’t release something inferior as the default. And vinyl purists rest assured, the vinyl edition was mastered to sound the very best for that format. The Audiophile Version is merely an alternate take on the mastering, which some people will appreciate. It’s meant to give a slightly different experience, not denigrate the standard version. Listen to each and come to your own conclusions.
    If you ordered any format of Hesitation Marks from nin.com, you’ll be able to download one or both mastering versions, in whichever formats you prefer (MP3, FLAC, Apple Lossless, and WAV), beginning September 3rd.

    Time to change where I am preordering from
    WTF?? I think this is kind of bullshit.... I didn't have this info when preordering. :x
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    Whole album streaming for free on itunes now. :)

    http://www.deezer.com/en/album/6869221? ... web+gh+nin
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    WTF?? I think this is kind of bullshit.... I didn't have this info when preordering. :x

    Where are you preordering from?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    WTF?? I think this is kind of bullshit.... I didn't have this info when preordering. :x

    Where are you preordering from?
    From the NIN website.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    WTF?? I think this is kind of bullshit.... I didn't have this info when preordering. :x

    Where are you preordering from?
    From the NIN website.

    You're purchasing through them so you can get it for free. :fp:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,704
    PJ_Soul wrote:

    Where are you preordering from?
    From the NIN website.

    You're purchasing through them so you can get it for free. :fp:
    ..... I thought they were talking about the vinyl having two versions.... A deluxe vinyl that has a different mastering... No?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    ..... I thought they were talking about the vinyl having two versions.... A deluxe vinyl that has a different mastering... No?

    No.

    The vinyl has one version.

    This new version will be free for download with your nin.com purchase.