Has anyone been reading about how much Trent is doing for a huge NIN fan who has terminal cancer?
His name is Andrew, and he is a close friend of my wife.
Trent has invited him to rehearsals, dedicated songs to him during concerts, and even did facetime with him during the NIN show in Las Vegas this past Saturday.
Trent is a class act!
I was at the Vegas show last weekend when he called Andrew. It was pretty cool, probably the loudest the crowd got all night was for Andrew. Overall a lackluster crowd, we were in the balcony and NOBODY was even standing. The setlist was basically all of Hesitation Marks along with some rarities and the usuals like Hurt, Head Like a Hole and Wish. Overall a cool show in a small venue, not as amazing as Lights In the Sky was but I think he wanted to reinvent things a little.
I did read that the Las Vegas shows were different from the arena shows as they were unable to bring their full production in.
In particular, I loved hearing: The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
March of the Pigs
Terrible Lie
Hurt
Various Methods of Escape and Find My Way sure give the new album credibility. I liked it before, but I really like it now.
I've gone from the casual fan to a very interested fan. Can't stop listening to Reptile and No, You Don't. And Dead Souls going through the Bose headphones right now.
I'm really loving it. Especially from Satellite onwards. I Would For You and In Two might be one of my favourite one-two punches in the NIN catalogue.
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
And I planted my bolo knife in the neck of mad John Finn. I took his wretched life.
Now I'm over near the bandstand, every hand moving on John Finn's wife...
I'm really loving it. Especially from Satellite onwards. I Would For You and In Two might be one of my favourite one-two punches in the NIN catalogue.
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I don't think Everything is the weakest song but I can see why people think that.
Hesitation Marks is a great album, so much depth to it and i'm still finding subtle textures lurking in the background. Satellite is a great anti pop song.
I'm really looking forward to the tour next year and what Trent comes up with.
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
He thanked the crowd. He also introduced the band. But you are correct that it was more a production than an intimate evening.
That curtain they dropped in front of the band led to some great lighting effects!
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
He thanked the crowd. He also introduced the band. But you are correct that it was more a production than an intimate evening.
That curtain they dropped in front of the band led to some great lighting effects!
Well, at least they said something, but still.... Yes, that screen did lead to some great lighting effects! It looked cool!.... But the cost of that was literally not being able to see the band at all for some parts of the show... I just found that odd.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm really loving it. Especially from Satellite onwards. I Would For You and In Two might be one of my favourite one-two punches in the NIN catalogue.
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I don't think Everything is the weakest song but I can see why people think that.
Hesitation Marks is a great album, so much depth to it and i'm still finding subtle textures lurking in the background. Satellite is a great anti pop song.
I'm really looking forward to the tour next year and what Trent comes up with.
I'm really loving it. Especially from Satellite onwards. I Would For You and In Two might be one of my favourite one-two punches in the NIN catalogue.
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I don't think Everything is the weakest song but I can see why people think that.
Hesitation Marks is a great album, so much depth to it and i'm still finding subtle textures lurking in the background. Satellite is a great anti pop song.
I'm really looking forward to the tour next year and what Trent comes up with.
Everything is the worst NIN song ever.
YUP!! It's horrible! The rest of the album is good, fortunately.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm really loving it. Especially from Satellite onwards. I Would For You and In Two might be one of my favourite one-two punches in the NIN catalogue.
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
I don't think Everything is the weakest song but I can see why people think that.
Hesitation Marks is a great album, so much depth to it and i'm still finding subtle textures lurking in the background. Satellite is a great anti pop song.
I'm really looking forward to the tour next year and what Trent comes up with.
Everything is the worst NIN song ever.
I'd take it over Perfect Drug and Starfuckers any day.
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
It's a journey. He's not there to be my friend and I get that.
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
It's a journey. He's not there to be my friend and I get that.
I don't want him to be my friend. But I want to feel like I'm actually watching a live show with actual real people playing and feeling the music, and not some kind of Universal Studios attraction. They could have been high tech robot band members and the music could have been recorded, and I really wouldn't have noticed the difference.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
It's a journey. He's not there to be my friend and I get that.
I don't want him to be my friend. But I want to feel like I'm actually watching a live show with actual real people playing and feeling the music, and not some kind of Universal Studio attraction. They could have been high tech robot band members and the music could have been recorded, and I really wouldn't have noticed the difference.
Really? I didn't feel that at all.
Hmmm. I'm a fan of big production shows, but I see what you mean... I guess.
It's a journey. He's not there to be my friend and I get that.
I don't want him to be my friend. But I want to feel like I'm actually watching a live show with actual real people playing and feeling the music, and not some kind of Universal Studio attraction. They could have been high tech robot band members and the music could have been recorded, and I really wouldn't have noticed the difference.
Really? I didn't feel that at all.
Hmmm. I'm a fan of big production shows, but I see what you mean... I guess.
I like big production shows too, and I still enjoyed it because it sounded and looked great, and I'm glad I saw it, but it was definitely missing something for me. Missing a human factor.... It's like Trent Reznor has no personality for me now, even though he can create when I heard and saw.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.
Long, forced, meandering musings are painful.
Eddie is one of the more vocal guys with regards to storytelling and I don't mind most of the stuff he tells, but there have been times when he has been spinning bullshit introducing songs.
Guys like Maynard say very little. This was my first time seeing NIN so I wasn't sure what to expect from Reznor- but I was okay with the level of interaction and the pace of the show.
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.
That's a lot more talking that he did in Vancouver. If he'd talked that much, I probably wouldn't have commented (although frankly, and to be fair, I can't remember him introducing the band, but supposedly he did... iI think I must have been in the washroom at the time).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So I saw them last Thursday, and it was a really good show, but I found something REALLY strange. I don't think Trent or anyone else addressed the audience ONCE. Not a word. I guess I might be forgetting a "Hello Vancouver" or something, but I don't think so. So it was more like watching a movie in a way. There was ZERO connection with the crowd as far as I could tell. In fact, their special effect lighting screen or whatever actually dropped in FRONT of the stage and physically blocked them from the audience for a good part of the show. It was fairly alienating. So that is my complaint... and that's a pretty big one. Thinking about a main reason I love PJ live - that connection with the crowd and so much communication - I found the complete lack of any of that from NIN disappointing. Other than that, it was fantastic. Sounded great, looked great! And the crowd was pretty decent for Vancouver.
I know what you mean. At the Toronto show, Trent said thank you a number of times and the only time he really addressed to the audience was after the first song of the encore Even Deeper. He introduced the band members and he also joked that he's thinking of moving to Canada because the Toronto crowd was great. Less talking, more music. And I prefer it that way in my opinion.
Long, forced, meandering musings are painful.
Eddie is one of the more vocal guys with regards to storytelling and I don't mind most of the stuff he tells, but there have been times when he has been spinning bullshit introducing songs.
Guys like Maynard say very little. This was my first time seeing NIN so I wasn't sure what to expect from Reznor- but I was okay with the level of interaction and the pace of the show.
Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome ).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Has anyone been reading about how much Trent is doing for a huge NIN fan who has terminal cancer?
His name is Andrew, and he is a close friend of my wife.
Trent has invited him to rehearsals, dedicated songs to him during concerts, and even did facetime with him during the NIN show in Las Vegas this past Saturday.
Trent is a class act!
Sad to say that Andrew passed-away this past Saturday. :(
Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome ).
Has anyone been reading about how much Trent is doing for a huge NIN fan who has terminal cancer?
His name is Andrew, and he is a close friend of my wife.
Trent has invited him to rehearsals, dedicated songs to him during concerts, and even did facetime with him during the NIN show in Las Vegas this past Saturday.
Trent is a class act!
Sad to say that Andrew passed-away this past Saturday. :(
Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome ).
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Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that?
Forced musings are certainly painful. I would rather someone say nothing at all than be forced about it (I have never seen or heard EV forcing anything - I could listen to him talk all day to be honest ). Anyway, really enjoyed the show, but sticking by my original thoughts on this one. It wasn't just the lack of any kind of communication with the crowd beside introducing the band and saying hi. It was also the fact that for some of the show I could even SEE the band because of the effects screen in front of the stage. Having a physical barrier between the band and the crowd doesn't seem ideal to me. I don't think the light effects created by that screen were worth doing that for the most part (with the exception of the whole part with the laser cube and lines and shit - that was awesome ).
:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:
Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that?
No, because it wouldn't seem right for a Nine Inch Nails production.
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Lights were second to none.
In particular, I loved hearing:
The Wretched
Somewhat Damaged
March of the Pigs
Terrible Lie
Hurt
Various Methods of Escape and Find My Way sure give the new album credibility. I liked it before, but I really like it now.
I've gone from the casual fan to a very interested fan. Can't stop listening to Reptile and No, You Don't. And Dead Souls going through the Bose headphones right now.
But...
There are some woeful songs on there. Everything is horrific in particular.
The Eater of Dreams, Copy of A, Came Back Haunted, Find My Way and Various Methods of Escape are the only ones I listen to.
The Fragile, it ain't.
http://www.last.fm/user/olivavu
Everything is easily the weakest song, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it seems to bother everyone else.
Now I'm over near the bandstand, every hand moving on John Finn's wife...
Satellite isn't very good either and All Time Low is awful too.
http://www.last.fm/user/olivavu
I don't think Everything is the weakest song but I can see why people think that.
Hesitation Marks is a great album, so much depth to it and i'm still finding subtle textures lurking in the background. Satellite is a great anti pop song.
I'm really looking forward to the tour next year and what Trent comes up with.
He thanked the crowd. He also introduced the band. But you are correct that it was more a production than an intimate evening.
That curtain they dropped in front of the band led to some great lighting effects!
Everything is the worst NIN song ever.
http://www.last.fm/user/olivavu
I'd take it over Perfect Drug and Starfuckers any day.
And I'm 100% serious.
It's a journey. He's not there to be my friend and I get that.
Really? I didn't feel that at all.
Hmmm. I'm a fan of big production shows, but I see what you mean... I guess.
Me too. The Perfect Drug is just overrated to my ears.
Those two songs are excellent.
http://www.last.fm/user/olivavu
Long, forced, meandering musings are painful.
Eddie is one of the more vocal guys with regards to storytelling and I don't mind most of the stuff he tells, but there have been times when he has been spinning bullshit introducing songs.
Guys like Maynard say very little. This was my first time seeing NIN so I wasn't sure what to expect from Reznor- but I was okay with the level of interaction and the pace of the show.
Sad to say that Andrew passed-away this past Saturday. :(
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Yes, very sad to see that
Suppose NIN had huge, swinging light bulbs on stage that the band members knocked around.....would you like that?
No, because it wouldn't seem right for a Nine Inch Nails production.
In 2007, they had hanging lightbulbs that they swung around... But Trent did not have one specially made to stand on and swing from.
Lame... but of course...