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Kelly Leak
Kelly Leak Posts: 263
edited July 2013 in The Porch
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
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  • Backspacer_Backer
    Backspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    They have to pay for this effectively run fan club, and making sure all the members of said club are kept perpetually happy. That ain't cheap, my friend.
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    I disagree. I think the store has been understocked for the size of the band for years if you compare them to other bands of that size. The increase in merch is more of a reaction to the demand of the fans rather than PJ fueling it. It's the fans that have created the merch frenzy not the band, they're just playing up to it and why not?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    sponsor free band? i'm sure you're the same person you were in 1995.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Kelly Leak
    Kelly Leak Posts: 263
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    I disagree. I think the store has been understocked for the size of the band for years if you compare them to other bands of that size. The increase in merch is more of a reaction to the demand of the fans rather than PJ fueling it. It's the fans that have created the merch frenzy not the band, they're just playing up to it and why not?

    I don't want to 'compare' them to anyone. I have just noticed a measurable change in 'stuff'.
  • Kelly Leak
    Kelly Leak Posts: 263
    mcgruff10 wrote:
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    sponsor free band? i'm sure you're the same person you were in 1995.

    I see your point. You are right, I have changed. We all have. I am only pointing out a recent laser-like focus on 'stuff'.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    I got ya and do agree with you to a point (i.e dog collars). And they did have the set list shirts back in 2000 so it's not exactly a new idea here.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    I disagree. I think the store has been understocked for the size of the band for years if you compare them to other bands of that size. The increase in merch is more of a reaction to the demand of the fans rather than PJ fueling it. It's the fans that have created the merch frenzy not the band, they're just playing up to it and why not?

    I don't want to 'compare' them to anyone. I have just noticed a measurable change in 'stuff'.

    Well it's OK, no one is forcing you to buy 'stuff' and it's not like they aren't touring or not bringing out a new album and just resting on their money. They wouldn't keep making 'stuff' if people weren't buying the 'stuff' so your options are buy 'stuff' or chose to not be apart of the commercial operations and don't buy the 'stuff'. Simples.
  • nutbarz
    nutbarz Posts: 227
    Its Just a Pile of Stuff...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    Im not going to analyze pricing and products and pass judgement on the band. They have earned a great amount of fame and fans over 23 years. They have people that work for the band and 10c, they have families. Im not going to get bent out of shape if things lend themselves to the suspicion that they want to make a few bucks. Look at the rest of the music industry these days if you want to truly see hollow money making. A 35 dollar setlist shirt from an historic show in the bands history proves nothing of them losing their grounding
  • Kelly Leak
    Kelly Leak Posts: 263
    nutbarz wrote:
    Its Just a Pile of Stuff...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

    Well Placed
  • Kelly Leak
    Kelly Leak Posts: 263
    Anybody up for a game of 'profit margin poker' with my new $15 EV playing cards?
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,060
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    People stopped paying for music
  • morgie2
    morgie2 Posts: 1,065
    1. $35.00 is VERY reasonable for a concert shirt these days. Went to a Fleetwood Mac show recently where they we $40.00.
    2. With all the various means people have in the digital world to access free music, the band needs to find alternate sources of revenue not only for themselves and their employees, but for their charities.
    3. Another reason for all the "stuff" you see is WE, AS FANS, CONSTANTLY SCREAM FOR MORE. Tons of feedback on here about how we wish there was more selection etc.
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  • titchinello
    titchinello Posts: 3,139
    Digital Twilight wrote:
    Kelly Leak wrote:
    Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?

    I disagree. I think the store has been understocked for the size of the band for years if you compare them to other bands of that size. The increase in merch is more of a reaction to the demand of the fans rather than PJ fueling it. It's the fans that have created the merch frenzy not the band, they're just playing up to it and why not?
    I agree with you Digital, I too think there was not enough goods on offer for the size of the band, and if people are crying out for more, then why not... and true nobody is saying.. we have goods for sale, you MUST buy, fair enough the prices are a bit expensive, but thats just the way of the world today i'm afraid. simple ecomomics 1 on 1.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    They have a fan base that is perfectly willing to stand in 95 degree heat for 4-5 hours in the hopes of buying a poster and/or t-shirt and/or whatever else. They would be fools not to provide merchandise to people so willing to spend their money.
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  • quasi
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    If you want to see a "sponsor free" band, go check out a local band. I'm seeing a local band tonight for only a $3 cover charge. No shirts, nor merchandise either probably. But, I'm sure if they had enough fans that demanded it, they would start making shirts to sell. In the end, music is a business of supply and demand and the fans are fueling it.
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    I dont know for sure, but I think they hired a professional organization a few years back to help run the 10C and make it efficient and profitable. I would guess that the band approves some of the new suggestions for merchandising, marketing and additional revenue streams. Id bet that a good number get rejected as well.
  • Claireack
    Claireack Posts: 13,561
    To be honest, I don't really like this everything plus the kitchen sink having PJ written on it and sold for a ridiculous price. Hence, I don't buy anything I don't want/need, actually I mostly don't even look.

    Each to their own.

    I have started to think that 'Pearl Jam' is very much a brand now and that the people who run the merchandising side of things are really making the most of the desire of fans to buy things, almost to the point of exploiting them. But I guess everyones wages need paying.
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  • WhyGo91
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    I don't mean to start anything here, but honestly you would probably be making a big deal if they WEREN'T doing what they're doing. I mean you need to be happy with the amount of merch that PJ has, because honestly if they didn't then you wouldn't get to enjoy the memories every time you look at a shirt you bought at a show, or a hat you see yourself wearing from a picture, or whatever. I'm pleased with the amount of stuff they have (and the prices). I would love to see my future kids wearing a PJ onesie(?), or my doggy wearing a PJ dog collar, or hell even going swimming in the ocean with a pair of PJ board shorts!!!

    As for the prices, I went to a Deftones show last August and they were selling shirts for $45 and a hat was $30. Also, go to a KISS concert some day, then come back and talk to me about being "sponsor-free".
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