They put stuff up for sale. We gobble that shit up. It's the circle of life.
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
Meh
"There's a $10,000 bill in it for you."
"Oh yeah? Which president's on it?"
"Uh, all of them. They're having a party. Jimmy Carter's passed out on the couch."
They put stuff up for sale. We gobble that shit up. It's the circle of life.
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
1) I don't really know for sure obviously, but is the amount greater than before? Eh, I wouldn't say so. It also seems to come in waves, then disappears for long stretches. Do they market it more? Probably. Some of it also markets itself on social media platforms etc. You are likely to see things on Facebook and Twitter now whereas even 2 years ago you wouldn't see that. A lot of it also comes with them revamping their site and making it more inviting with better pictures and navigation.
2) Probably? When hasn't it been outsourced to another merch provider? Can anyone else picture Ed and Stone getting in an argument over who did a better job ironing on a t-shirt decal?
They put stuff up for sale. We gobble that shit up. It's the circle of life.
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
1) I don't really know for sure obviously, but is the amount greater than before? Eh, I wouldn't say so. It also seems to come in waves, then disappears for long stretches. Do they market it more? Probably. Some of it also markets itself on social media platforms etc. You are likely to see things on Facebook and Twitter now whereas even 2 years ago you wouldn't see that. A lot of it also comes with them revamping their site and making it more inviting with better pictures and navigation.
2) Probably? When hasn't it been outsourced to another merch provider? Can anyone else picture Ed and Stone getting in an argument over who did a better job ironing on a t-shirt decal?
I think the thing you need to keep in mind about any store (even the store belonging to your favorite band) is that you are free to look and decide whether or not you want to buy. It's completely appropriate to think some items are over-priced and choose not to buy them.
As a consumer, that's how it always is in any store!
I think the thing you need to keep in mind about any store (even the store belonging to your favorite band) is that you are free to look and decide whether or not you want to buy. It's completely appropriate to think some items are over-priced and choose not to buy them.
As a consumer, that's how it always is in any store!
I am well aware of my right to either buy or not buy. Again, this was not my original question.
The fans want the stuff, I think that's the bottom line.
They don't have to make it but the fans want them to make it, so why not give the fans what they want?
People like stuff as George Carlin said so well.
Of course money is made in the process (probably lots of it) but I don't think that is the main reason for the increase in stuff, it's just that people want it and keep buying more of it.
I stick to posters and the occasional t-shirt bought at a show, but I must admit I love the posters. (And I love that the poster artists are making money too as well they should)
wasnt the shirt $35? That's what you would have paid at the show. Of course shipping would make it a bit higher, but... $35 has been the price for pj shirts for at least what, maybe 6...8 years now?
it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
Except that wasn't your original question
this was
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
Kelly Leak
your first point was that things have become "overwhelmingly" commercial. now this implies that this is a bad thing and the band has started only to look out for the bottom dollar.
your second point was about the increase in stuff for sale.
the third point you raised was the the price of the tshirt, and when people point out its not that expensive you say it wasn't your original question except it was.
then finally you ended on some inane rambling about the the band being "sponsor free" when in fact by selling merch and being self sufficient as a group they wont need to rely on sponsorship.
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
Except that wasn't your original question
this was
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
Kelly Leak
your first point was that things have become "overwhelmingly" commercial. now this implies that this is a bad thing and the band has started only to look out for the bottom dollar.
your second point was about the increase in stuff for sale.
the third point you raised was the the price of the tshirt, and when people point out its not that expensive you say it wasn't your original question except it was.
then finally you ended on some inane rambling about the the band being "sponsor free" when in fact by selling merch and being self sufficient as a group they wont need to rely on sponsorship.
:fp:
Eddie? Is that you? Watch how you throw the word, inane around there, punchie.
its how music intustry works..fine by me..they can do whatever they want,sell whatever..
as i said again,i can control only and im the boss of my wallet..
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
its how music intustry works..fine by me..they can do whatever they want,sell whatever..
as i said again,i can control only and im the boss of my wallet..
Meh. It doesn't really bother me. If they keep throwing shit at the wall, eventually they release something I want. So the more shit they throw at the wall the better
The majority of stuff on the website is still music and clothing. They release some knick knacks and the odd dog collar, but most of it is the same old... maybe more selection.
I do agree that 10c really did seem small compared to other bands. IE prevously PJ's merch offerings were fairly limited and small. Go to a website like Metallica or U2 and there's so much more merch on those sites....
I will argue the opposite though. PJ only spent the first 3 or 4 years of their careers touring hardcore. After the '95 tour fell apart they got into a groove. Do a 2 or 3 leg tour every few years (and now they're even smaller and less frequent). You don't see them launching multiple year world wide tours like metallica, foo fighters, u2 etc.. would do. They tour an album for 3 or 4 months tops. That really has to limit the income. If you're going to tour that lightly, you do need alternate income sources. I would imagine that they've been quite acustom to the levels of income they've had over the past 20 years.
They dont' tour too much. Album sales don't bring in that much income. I guess they need to sell merch to help fill those gaps. I'm not against it. I buy the stuff I like. A plad winter jacket from Settle might not be for me, but the one time they put out fitted hats.. I was all over that. Press something on vinyl and I'll buy that too
Meh. It doesn't really bother me. If they keep throwing shit at the wall, eventually they release something I want. So the more shit they throw at the wall the better
The majority of stuff on the website is still music and clothing. They release some knick knacks and the odd dog collar, but most of it is the same old... maybe more selection.
I do agree that 10c really did seem small compared to other bands. IE prevously PJ's merch offerings were fairly limited and small. Go to a website like Metallica or U2 and there's so much more merch on those sites....
I will argue the opposite though. PJ only spent the first 3 or 4 years of their careers touring hardcore. After the '95 tour fell apart they got into a groove. Do a 2 or 3 leg tour every few years (and now they're even smaller and less frequent). You don't see them launching multiple year world wide tours like metallica, foo fighters, u2 etc.. would do. They tour an album for 3 or 4 months tops. That really has to limit the income. If you're going to tour that lightly, you do need alternate income sources. I would imagine that they've been quite acustom to the levels of income they've had over the past 20 years.
They dont' tour too much. Album sales don't bring in that much income. I guess they need to sell merch to help fill those gaps. I'm not against it. I buy the stuff I like. A plad winter jacket from Settle might not be for me, but the one time they put out fitted hats.. I was all over that. Press something on vinyl and I'll buy that too
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
They are now sponsored by the need to keep the machine profitable. That's all it is. Not creating music, but continuing to profit off the fans. It's too lucrative to ever give up and every band member knows this.
They put stuff up for sale. We gobble that shit up. It's the circle of life.
This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
Yes, and I don't have a clue, nor care, about #2. They obviously upped the merch to make up for the loss of profits since music is not bought any more. Ed has been pretty public about piracy and all that, and they aren't making albums every couple of years either. They tour much less, very small tours. Obviously, from a business viewpoint, jumping on the merch and adding more, is their best interest if they're want to keep the money flow consistent. Because they don't tour enough to sit comfortably, based solely on income from touring. Just my business opinion.
But, it does say something about the average fan and their consumption habits for ridiculous things with the band name on them. We're known to have bottomless wallets in a country weathering a constant recession. Not exactly a thrifty or smart bunch of fans. Sorry guys, but I think the merch is a straight-on fleecing of the public. It's our choice, of course! But in the grand scheme of things, we're just keeping them comfortable with our consuming stupid material merchandise. What would environmental Stone say?
Meh. It doesn't really bother me. If they keep throwing shit at the wall, eventually they release something I want. So the more shit they throw at the wall the better
Good point.
I have very few PJ t-shirts but now I want the MYM one. I hope they release it in the store. I've been to shows 7 of the last 8 years so I can't complain.
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
I may be wrong but I think the reason prices are higher is because this stuff is limited quantity band/club sold merch and as we all know, most folks get music free these days. As for commercial...I don't think thats the right word for the fan merch sales. I take commercial to mean you would see these items and much much more crap in every Walmart-Kmart-Flea market, Ect. Or Eddie and Mike in a burger king commercial singing, "Can't find a better burger" to the tune of "Betterman". Stone in a Hundai commercial jammin on the roof of it...ect. I don't know what sponors they have I don't know of any except for when they play Festival type events.
Some folks like lots of stuff...some don't, but in the end this is a business for the guys and I'm sure they use the money wisely. If ever you see Ed show up to a show in a mink and a leather kilt, smiling from ear to ear with a platinum diamond encrusted grill in his mouth...you should come back here and ask these questions
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
i don't care.
let them be masters of their own merch, why should someone else get paid?
when was the last itme you walked into a hot topic or a record store and saw a pearl jam shirt? 2001?
you want some pearl jam shit, you more or less gotta buy it from them....i think that's kinda cool.
things change. the fan club is run like a business. i don't like everything about it, but it is what it is.
i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
I don't care what they sell. They could put out pearl jam coffins and condoms, I won't be buying them, but if someone wants to pay for it, why not? It's hard for bands to make money recording these days, even more now that they're using their own label and footing the bill for the entire operation, and not getting it paid for and promoted by a record company.
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
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He was a ruthless businessman, motivated by naked ambition and greed.
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Origin of G.R.E.E.D.
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
I think it's you, I've been a member for a long while, and until recently I haven't purchased much, only CD and vinyl. I've bought the albums released by the so called projects, some with two years of delay, in 12 years, I only bought 4 posters and 2 tees, and to be honest, I find the wrigley tee simply hiddeous.
However, last time I checked, when you join the 10C you are told that you will get the chance to get 10C exclusive merchandise items, and the remaining itmes of merch which are sold in shows are available later only for 10C members. Moreover, if things are made available, whatever they are, it's because people buy that stuff. Some things might be more pricy than others, but an exclusive limited quantity item won't sell cheap, specially a good quality one.
I don't know what happened to your sponsor free band, but my sponsor free band remains still the same. I don't see any sponsor ads here, the videos and pics I got to watch from London and Chicago, I didn't see any sponsors ads at the side of the stage, and I haven't seen any thread here saying that any brand or company brings PJ to any certain city, and if it's so, I wasn't aware of that.
Unfortunately times have changed. I don't know about the States or Europe, but in Latin America, concert promoters are different brands, or they are sponsored or endorsed by a major brand. It's the only way for bands to play around these latitudes. I'm not talking about festivals, I'm talking about shows in general, mostly they are festivals, big ones. Indoors venues and stadiums were took over by major companies, and if you go to any event in any certain venue you will know in advance who is the sponsor and wich ticketing system will be in charge. So if PJ wants to play the Garden, the tix will be sold by the ticket vendor who has a previous agreement with the garden, if PJ don't like that, PJ will have to find another venue.
By the way, PJ teamed up with UPS for logistic issues, not only for shipping stuff, this might be considered an endorsement, and I'm happy they did. That agreement works for PJ in order to move their gear, the mass volume of items sold by 10C, but most important, it works for me, since I don't know any website, any band or whatever that can ship to my country a triple vinyl set for only 5.17.
... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...
Thing$ around here have become overwhelmingly commercial. I have never $een $o much $tuff for $ale. I wa$ going to buy the Wrigley $etli$t $hirt until I $aw the price. What'$ happening to our $pon$or free band?
People stopped paying for music
DING! DING! DING!
With the abundance of MP3s for free (legally or otherwise), the band still has to make money somehow. I suppose they have three options:
1) Charge out the wazoo for tickets... say, $500 for VIP tickets (first 10 rows, pre-show buffet dinner, poster, necklace holder for your ticket, and a copy of the show on CD) along with tickets STARTING at $100
2) Charge more for 10C membership
3) Sell items
I mean, unless you want a vinyl copy for your thousand-dollar turntable system with HiFi output...CD sales aren't what they used to be.
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: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
See greed defined for English-language learners »
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Examples of GREED
He was a ruthless businessman, motivated by naked ambition and greed.
<don't let greed for riches control you>
Origin of G.R.E.E.D.
So you're saying, you know their personal finances and they already have enough and should give everything away to us needy fans?
You're right they should have to work for all this cash, no more 1 hour 16 song same setlist every night shows.
They should have never wasted all that time and money fighting tickmaster either! They were the hottest commodity in music at that time and they could have raped the world for enough cash to last a lifetime. I bet they regret it now, seeing how greedy they are.
And they all splurge on the fanciest designer clothing... I heard Boom buys the most expensive hair ties on the market, made of some fancy rare worm silk or something. Also McCready will only wear T-shirts made by hand on a loom and they must be spun exactly at midnight in France of the finest cotton.
These guys make me sick!
They should learn to be humble like Lil Wayne, Kanye and Biggie Smalls (God rest his soul)
Oh and I'm really glad they haven't found out how much the rest of the music world charges for concert tickets these days!
I paid 170.00 for a ticket to see Van Halen and the singer couldn't even sing anymore! (Sorry Dave )
Imagine how much a band with a singer that CAN sing could fetch per ticket.
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
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This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
Meh
"Oh yeah? Which president's on it?"
"Uh, all of them. They're having a party. Jimmy Carter's passed out on the couch."
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Toledo 2004
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1) I don't really know for sure obviously, but is the amount greater than before? Eh, I wouldn't say so. It also seems to come in waves, then disappears for long stretches. Do they market it more? Probably. Some of it also markets itself on social media platforms etc. You are likely to see things on Facebook and Twitter now whereas even 2 years ago you wouldn't see that. A lot of it also comes with them revamping their site and making it more inviting with better pictures and navigation.
2) Probably? When hasn't it been outsourced to another merch provider? Can anyone else picture Ed and Stone getting in an argument over who did a better job ironing on a t-shirt decal?
I appreciate your response.
As a consumer, that's how it always is in any store!
I am well aware of my right to either buy or not buy. Again, this was not my original question.
They don't have to make it but the fans want them to make it, so why not give the fans what they want?
People like stuff as George Carlin said so well.
Of course money is made in the process (probably lots of it) but I don't think that is the main reason for the increase in stuff, it's just that people want it and keep buying more of it.
I stick to posters and the occasional t-shirt bought at a show, but I must admit I love the posters. (And I love that the poster artists are making money too as well they should)
If prices don't drop, encourage your friends not to buy
If prices to drop, start a revolution
As for the $35 shirt. That was the price at the show. It is free to ship. If you don't like $35 concert shirts, don't steal music.
If that doesn't work, encourage your friends not to steal music.
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This does NOT address my original question. I will say it again:
1. Has anyone noted a measurable change in both the amount of merchandise and the marketing of said merchandise over the past coupe of years?
2. Does it appear that an outside organization has been handed the keys to the merchandise machine?
Two questions, both Yes/No
people bitched there wasnt enough merchandise. Now people are bitching there is too much merchandise...
Except that wasn't your original question
this was
your first point was that things have become "overwhelmingly" commercial. now this implies that this is a bad thing and the band has started only to look out for the bottom dollar.
your second point was about the increase in stuff for sale.
the third point you raised was the the price of the tshirt, and when people point out its not that expensive you say it wasn't your original question except it was.
then finally you ended on some inane rambling about the the band being "sponsor free" when in fact by selling merch and being self sufficient as a group they wont need to rely on sponsorship.
:fp:
Eddie? Is that you? Watch how you throw the word, inane around there, punchie.
as i said again,i can control only and im the boss of my wallet..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I appreciate your respectful response.
I 100% agree, but 'EV playing cards'?
The majority of stuff on the website is still music and clothing. They release some knick knacks and the odd dog collar, but most of it is the same old... maybe more selection.
I do agree that 10c really did seem small compared to other bands. IE prevously PJ's merch offerings were fairly limited and small. Go to a website like Metallica or U2 and there's so much more merch on those sites....
I will argue the opposite though. PJ only spent the first 3 or 4 years of their careers touring hardcore. After the '95 tour fell apart they got into a groove. Do a 2 or 3 leg tour every few years (and now they're even smaller and less frequent). You don't see them launching multiple year world wide tours like metallica, foo fighters, u2 etc.. would do. They tour an album for 3 or 4 months tops. That really has to limit the income. If you're going to tour that lightly, you do need alternate income sources. I would imagine that they've been quite acustom to the levels of income they've had over the past 20 years.
They dont' tour too much. Album sales don't bring in that much income. I guess they need to sell merch to help fill those gaps. I'm not against it. I buy the stuff I like. A plad winter jacket from Settle might not be for me, but the one time they put out fitted hats.. I was all over that. Press something on vinyl and I'll buy that too
Good post.
My bottom line, things have changed. Maybe it's just my age talking. Maybe it's time to pass the torch to you younger fans.
They are now sponsored by the need to keep the machine profitable. That's all it is. Not creating music, but continuing to profit off the fans. It's too lucrative to ever give up and every band member knows this.
Yes, and I don't have a clue, nor care, about #2. They obviously upped the merch to make up for the loss of profits since music is not bought any more. Ed has been pretty public about piracy and all that, and they aren't making albums every couple of years either. They tour much less, very small tours. Obviously, from a business viewpoint, jumping on the merch and adding more, is their best interest if they're want to keep the money flow consistent. Because they don't tour enough to sit comfortably, based solely on income from touring. Just my business opinion.
But, it does say something about the average fan and their consumption habits for ridiculous things with the band name on them. We're known to have bottomless wallets in a country weathering a constant recession. Not exactly a thrifty or smart bunch of fans. Sorry guys, but I think the merch is a straight-on fleecing of the public. It's our choice, of course! But in the grand scheme of things, we're just keeping them comfortable with our consuming stupid material merchandise. What would environmental Stone say?
Good point.
I have very few PJ t-shirts but now I want the MYM one. I hope they release it in the store. I've been to shows 7 of the last 8 years so I can't complain.
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I may be wrong but I think the reason prices are higher is because this stuff is limited quantity band/club sold merch and as we all know, most folks get music free these days. As for commercial...I don't think thats the right word for the fan merch sales. I take commercial to mean you would see these items and much much more crap in every Walmart-Kmart-Flea market, Ect. Or Eddie and Mike in a burger king commercial singing, "Can't find a better burger" to the tune of "Betterman". Stone in a Hundai commercial jammin on the roof of it...ect. I don't know what sponors they have I don't know of any except for when they play Festival type events.
Some folks like lots of stuff...some don't, but in the end this is a business for the guys and I'm sure they use the money wisely. If ever you see Ed show up to a show in a mink and a leather kilt, smiling from ear to ear with a platinum diamond encrusted grill in his mouth...you should come back here and ask these questions
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
let them be masters of their own merch, why should someone else get paid?
when was the last itme you walked into a hot topic or a record store and saw a pearl jam shirt? 2001?
you want some pearl jam shit, you more or less gotta buy it from them....i think that's kinda cool.
things change. the fan club is run like a business. i don't like everything about it, but it is what it is.
: a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed
See greed defined for English-language learners »
See greed defined for kids »
Examples of GREED
He was a ruthless businessman, motivated by naked ambition and greed.
<don't let greed for riches control you>
Origin of G.R.E.E.D.
I think it's you, I've been a member for a long while, and until recently I haven't purchased much, only CD and vinyl. I've bought the albums released by the so called projects, some with two years of delay, in 12 years, I only bought 4 posters and 2 tees, and to be honest, I find the wrigley tee simply hiddeous.
However, last time I checked, when you join the 10C you are told that you will get the chance to get 10C exclusive merchandise items, and the remaining itmes of merch which are sold in shows are available later only for 10C members. Moreover, if things are made available, whatever they are, it's because people buy that stuff. Some things might be more pricy than others, but an exclusive limited quantity item won't sell cheap, specially a good quality one.
I don't know what happened to your sponsor free band, but my sponsor free band remains still the same. I don't see any sponsor ads here, the videos and pics I got to watch from London and Chicago, I didn't see any sponsors ads at the side of the stage, and I haven't seen any thread here saying that any brand or company brings PJ to any certain city, and if it's so, I wasn't aware of that.
Unfortunately times have changed. I don't know about the States or Europe, but in Latin America, concert promoters are different brands, or they are sponsored or endorsed by a major brand. It's the only way for bands to play around these latitudes. I'm not talking about festivals, I'm talking about shows in general, mostly they are festivals, big ones. Indoors venues and stadiums were took over by major companies, and if you go to any event in any certain venue you will know in advance who is the sponsor and wich ticketing system will be in charge. So if PJ wants to play the Garden, the tix will be sold by the ticket vendor who has a previous agreement with the garden, if PJ don't like that, PJ will have to find another venue.
By the way, PJ teamed up with UPS for logistic issues, not only for shipping stuff, this might be considered an endorsement, and I'm happy they did. That agreement works for PJ in order to move their gear, the mass volume of items sold by 10C, but most important, it works for me, since I don't know any website, any band or whatever that can ship to my country a triple vinyl set for only 5.17.
DING! DING! DING!
With the abundance of MP3s for free (legally or otherwise), the band still has to make money somehow. I suppose they have three options:
1) Charge out the wazoo for tickets... say, $500 for VIP tickets (first 10 rows, pre-show buffet dinner, poster, necklace holder for your ticket, and a copy of the show on CD) along with tickets STARTING at $100
2) Charge more for 10C membership
3) Sell items
I mean, unless you want a vinyl copy for your thousand-dollar turntable system with HiFi output...CD sales aren't what they used to be.
So you're saying, you know their personal finances and they already have enough and should give everything away to us needy fans?
You're right they should have to work for all this cash, no more 1 hour 16 song same setlist every night shows.
They should have never wasted all that time and money fighting tickmaster either! They were the hottest commodity in music at that time and they could have raped the world for enough cash to last a lifetime. I bet they regret it now, seeing how greedy they are.
And they all splurge on the fanciest designer clothing... I heard Boom buys the most expensive hair ties on the market, made of some fancy rare worm silk or something. Also McCready will only wear T-shirts made by hand on a loom and they must be spun exactly at midnight in France of the finest cotton.
These guys make me sick!
They should learn to be humble like Lil Wayne, Kanye and Biggie Smalls (God rest his soul)
Oh and I'm really glad they haven't found out how much the rest of the music world charges for concert tickets these days!
I paid 170.00 for a ticket to see Van Halen and the singer couldn't even sing anymore! (Sorry Dave
Imagine how much a band with a singer that CAN sing could fetch per ticket.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me