PEARL JAM ANNOUNCES FALL 2013 NORTH AMERICAN TOUR DATES

PJ_Soul wrote:

Every time I see someone bitching about not getting tix I think about how they are saying that whoever did get them don't deserve them.

Perfectly sums up what I've been trying to mentally articulate since joining these boards. Just because I don't have a high 10C number and haven't seen thirty+ shows, doesn't mean I haven't listened to PJ every day since I was eleven and been in awe of seeing them live, usually from a good distance. Spread the wealth!

I will be coming over from Scotland to hopefully see 4 shows, and luckily was notified today I was successful in my one attempt for Philadelphia 1, GA Standing. Not sure what options I have but I only need one ticket so I was hoping to trade for similar for either Brooklyn NY shows or Philadelphia 2 before the public sale and save the heart pounding that that will bring.
I have no idea how this will work as I was just desperate to confirm at least one ticket.
Any help would be appreciated.

Berlin 2010, Amsterdam1 Amsterdam 2, Berlin 1, Berlin2 2012

Will it be possible to buy GA tickets through Ticketmaster?

I am sick and tired of reading on here about SOME of these senior members who are selfish and complete baby's, will half you people grow up. I realize you've put in your time and have been listening to the band forever. But come on guys most of you's seen them from up close several times, if not more. I'm 25 I've seen pearl jam about 15 times and I haven't been able to get tickets closer than 20 rows up on the side, and four sections from the stage(stone's side). It would be nice for once to get closer but you guys don't hear all of us young guys and gals complain about where we sit or how we get snubbed for tickets every year. I am just as big of fans as the rest of the members, we should all just be grateful the band still puts out music and occasionally plays for 3+ hours at a show. Tickets are always limited and hard to get some people have better luck than others it's life !

pawlowski1097 wrote:

I am sick and tired of reading on here about SOME of these senior members who are selfish and complete baby's, will half you people grow up. I realize you've put in your time and have been listening to the band forever. But come on guys most of you's seen them from up close several times, if not more. I'm 25 I've seen pearl jam about 15 times and I haven't been able to get tickets closer than 20 rows up on the side, and four sections from the stage(stone's side). It would be nice for once to get closer but you guys don't hear all of us young guys and gals complain about where we sit or how we get snubbed for tickets every year. I am just as big of fans as the rest of the members, we should all just be grateful the band still puts out music and occasionally plays for 3+ hours at a show. Tickets are always limited and hard to get some people have better luck than others it's life !

I just hope that these particular senior members aren't also members who like to go on about how PJ fans are a cool group of people who look out for each other or whatever, because god knows they don't act like it. That PJ family stuff is an absolute sham as far as I can tell. Seems like half the members would be just as happy to punch another member in the face and stomp on their balls if it meant they got the rail.

Yield151 wrote:

Is there any news on who the opening band will be for the upcoming tour?

I was wondering that myself... as far as i know, no opening band has been announced yet. I'd like to see The Gaslight Anthem open up for them on the east coast run, Eddie sang State of Love and Trust with them at Deluna Fest last year. And they are a great band.

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I just hope that these particular senior members aren't also members who like to go on about how PJ fans are a cool group of people who look out for each other or whatever, because god knows they don't act like it. That PJ family stuff is an absolute sham as far as I can tell. Seems like half the members would be just as happy to punch another member in the face and stomp on their balls if it meant they got the rail.[/quote]

You obviously haven't been around a lot of ten clubbers then. They are the best fans out there. I'm not condoning everything people have said on these boards but you have to see it from their perspective as well. The 10 club has made it very clear that seniority matters and if you happen to forget to renew your membership in time they threaten to remove your old number and give you a new one at the back of the line. So people have obeyed this system for 15 - 20 years. Stood by the system and made sure they renewed on time. And in the past they have been rewarded with tickets to almost any show they wanted. Then all of a sudden, 20 years in, the 10 club decides to change the rules. I think most people were ok with a slight change. But then for the first US tour in years you have old die hards being completely shut out of tickets. Not just for one show, but for a half dozen. That is the problem. Its too drastic and clearly flawed that your most loyal fans are suddenly left in the cold. So now you have people who have 20 years invested in the club suddenly asking what the f happened and whether it makes sense to pay their dues anymore. The new system is geared to get at least one pair of tickets to as many members as possible. It is now very difficult to score tix to multiple shows. And that has always been the primary reason for the majority of 10 clubbers to be in the club. Yes its great that others are getting a chance at the pit - that's very cool - but you can't do it while giving goose eggs to your oldest, most loyal fans. Something has to be tweaked or changed with this new process. The anger is being misdirected at new fans.

Whipping_Boy wrote:

"PJ_Soul wrote:

I just hope that these particular senior members aren't also members who like to go on about how PJ fans are a cool group of people who look out for each other or whatever, because god knows they don't act like it. That PJ family stuff is an absolute sham as far as I can tell. Seems like half the members would be just as happy to punch another member in the face and stomp on their balls if it meant they got the rail.

You obviously haven't been around a lot of ten clubbers then. They are the best fans out there. I'm not condoning everything people have said on these boards but you have to see it from their perspective as well. The 10 club has made it very clear that seniority matters and if you happen to forget to renew your membership in time they threaten to remove your old number and give you a new one at the back of the line. So people have obeyed this system for 15 - 20 years. Stood by the system and made sure they renewed on time. And in the past they have been rewarded with tickets to almost any show they wanted. Then all of a sudden, 20 years in, the 10 club decides to change the rules. I think most people were ok with a slight change. But then for the first US tour in years you have old die hards being completely shut out of tickets. Not just for one show, but for a half dozen. That is the problem. Its too drastic and clearly flawed that your most loyal fans are suddenly left in the cold. So now you have people who have 20 years invested in the club suddenly asking what the f happened and whether it makes sense to pay their dues anymore. The new system is geared to get at least one pair of tickets to as many members as possible. It is now very difficult to score tix to multiple shows. And that has always been the primary reason for the majority of 10 clubbers to be in the club. Yes its great that others are getting a chance at the pit - that's very cool - but you can't do it while giving goose eggs to your oldest, most loyal fans. Something has to be tweaked or changed with this new process. The anger is being misdirected at new fans.

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I have met 10C members, and yeah, many are great... My point is that some people are being assholes. I'm not sure what "most loyal" is supposed to mean. Just because someone hasn't been around as long doesn't mean they aren't just as loyal.... not that such loyalty should matter anyway. Everyone is paying the same annual membership fee, and that is ALL that should matter. 20 years "invested" in the club? Old members got their returns as they went along. Every year is new. There is not a build up of investment in this scenario. It's not like it's work to be a member of a fan club. I don't understand why older members think they deserve any more than anyone else who pays the annual fee.

Every ten club member senior or not ive met have been really cool and down to earth. They all treat every one like family at wishlist events and are nice. Complaining about this stuff is a waste, we should all just help each other land the tix we need at a cheep price. My whole point is that everyone loves this band a tun lets just enjoy it and rock the fu*k out when we get struck by lightning !!

PJ_Soul wrote:

I have met 10C members, and yeah, many are great... My point is that some people are being assholes. I'm not sure what "most loyal" is supposed to mean. Just because someone hasn't been around as long doesn't mean they aren't just as loyal.... not that such loyalty should matter anyway. Everyone is paying the same annual membership fee, and that is ALL that should matter. 20 years "invested" in the club? Old members got their returns as they went along. Every year is new. There is not a build up of investment in this scenario. It's not like it's work to be a member of a fan club. I don't understand why older members think they deserve any more than anyone else who pays the annual fee.

Right or wrong, I think a lot of members treat being in the 10 club like being a season ticket holder to a sports team. You started membership in X year, maintained your status/paid your annual fees according to the rules which secured your spot/10C number in line, and you expect the benefits that come with seniority. This new system is almost like the Green Bay Packers just said to their fanbase - you know what, all you old folks with really good seats that have been in your family for 50 years? We're going to recycle them now by putting them in a lottery. Its time for new blood. If the 10 club never issued numbers and never used those numbers to indicate seniority, then yes it should be random every year. But that is not how the system has worked for the past 20 years. Older members have stayed invested in the 10 club with the understanding that their number is precious and translates to seniority because that is how the system has worked from the beginning. Without these old time members who stayed year in and year out you could argue that there wouldn't be a fanclub today. At least not one as strong as the 10 club. Those folks have been financing this club from the beginning with their dues. There is a happy medium in here somewhere.