Here are some tips on how to play the lottery

schapp · July 2013

MG79478 wrote:

And this is the #1 reason the lottery sucks, and everyone has worse odds than with F5.

I cannot complain; I got tickets for all the shows I wanted to via F5. But I believe the lottery is more fair.

Tix from ticketmaster should be pretty easy if you don't win lottery. Not for GA but for some decent tix

At least in my experience, getting tix from Ticketmaster is a pain. They fly, specially here in NYC.

schapp · July 2013

bchagnon wrote:

This is how this should have worked:

priority picks should have been for the show only, with an option to be considered for our to opt out of GA.

Once selected for a show, seating is based on preference (either opt in or out of GA consideration), and then based on seniority.

Brian

I fully agree. That way, our options #3 and above for shows in other markets would have a better shot.

Now, remember that if someone is just targeting one large market and all 4 entries are for that same city, a lot of #1 and #2 options might get void. In my opinion, that would give opportunity for a bunch of #3 options (and perhaps #4s?) to get tickets.

TunnelThroughDenial · July 2013

I've pondered this all day. It's really quite simple what to do.

1) Put your #1 priority on your local show or if there is no local show for you on the closest and hopefully smaller market towns

2) Never select GA and Reserved for the same show unless you only want to attend one show because your next show becomes priority three. No one knows the math, especially how many 10 clubbers go for a show, but I sense priority three could be a long shot luck of the draw deal

3) Don't select a single show you don't want or can't afford, or for whatever reason are very unlikely to attend. You just might win and lose $160 while you lower the odds for someone else

4) Rely on public sale if you lose, don't fuss over it, and just be happy if you win one through 10C

drew42e · July 2013

Overly simple math: Let's say for 23 shows they have 500 pairs for GA and 800 pairs for reserved (2600 tix/16-20k a show somewhere around 12-15%) that's roughly 30,000 pairs available in total. If there are 200k active 10club members, how many will put in for tickets given many are not in US or close to cities with a show, or not able to go? 50k? 60k? so I think you have roughly a 50-60% chance to "win" tickets, although it is clearly skewed by city, a little less for bigger cities and more for smaller ones. If you think a little more pairs per show its higher, or more entries in total its lower but its probably in that neighborhood.

morello · July 2013

Snagging for tips. Coming from NZ, really hoping for 10c GA for all shows LA-Seattle(minus Calgary). Good luck everyone!!

Spiritual_Chaos · July 2013

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CHOOSE!

blueandwhite · July 2013

drew42e wrote:

Overly simple math: Let's say for 23 shows they have 500 pairs for GA and 800 pairs for reserved (2600 tix/16-20k a show somewhere around 12-15%) that's roughly 30,000 pairs available in total. If there are 200k active 10club members, how many will put in for tickets given many are not in US or close to cities with a show, or not able to go? 50k? 60k? so I think you have roughly a 50-60% chance to "win" tickets, although it is clearly skewed by city, a little less for bigger cities and more for smaller ones. If you think a little more pairs per show its higher, or more entries in total its lower but its probably in that neighborhood.

It's not just the number of tickets available; it's the demand between each of the shows. I can say with reasonable certainty that more fans will be going for Philly, Brooklyn, and LA than for some of the smaller cities on the tour. You probably have excellent odds of nabbing a pair of tickets in Hartford if it's your first choice whereas you could end up with nothing in LA or Philly, even if you use your top choices there. Fans looking for tickets in larger markets are going to have a tougher time securing tickets. A lot of people are going to end up empty-handed.

helplessdancer · July 2013

TunnelThroughDenial wrote:

I've pondered this all day. It's really quite simple what to do.

1) Put your #1 priority on your local show or if there is no local show for you on the closest and hopefully smaller market towns

2) Never select GA and Reserved for the same show unless you only want to attend one show because your next show becomes priority three. No one knows the math, especially how many 10 clubbers go for a show, but I sense priority three could be a long shot luck of the draw deal

3) Don't select a single show you don't want or can't afford, or for whatever reason are very unlikely to attend. You just might win and lose $160 while you lower the odds for someone else

4) Rely on public sale if you lose, don't fuss over it, and just be happy if you win one through 10C

ugh. this is what i was going to do for pittsburgh and buffalo
holy confusion

TunnelThroughDenial · July 2013

helplessdancer wrote:

TunnelThroughDenial wrote:

I've pondered this all day. It's really quite simple what to do.

1) Put your #1 priority on your local show or if there is no local show for you on the closest and hopefully smaller market towns

2) Never select GA and Reserved for the same show unless you only want to attend one show because your next show becomes priority three. No one knows the math, especially how many 10 clubbers go for a show, but I sense priority three could be a long shot luck of the draw deal

3) Don't select a single show you don't want or can't afford, or for whatever reason are very unlikely to attend. You just might win and lose $160 while you lower the odds for someone else

4) Rely on public sale if you lose, don't fuss over it, and just be happy if you win one through 10C

ugh. this is what i was going to do for pittsburgh and buffalo
holy confusion

I personally think it wastes an important priority level to pick both sections for the same show. I plan to only pick reserved seating but I am a 41 year old man who no longer wants to stand there for 6 hours. I grew up in Seattle and have done my share of mosh pits at PJ shows. Plus, for me in particular, I have a low member number 112XXX so I'm bound to get good seats.

Another tidbit I read in another post is 10C have said in an email that side stage 100 level seats are considered priority over first row on the floor behind the pit. For me, particularly with a low number, that means I'll likely have a better seat than most of the people getting pushed around in the pit and won't be halfway back on the floor.

nevmiles · July 2013

jakesbluskyhome wrote:

The only way a #2 pick would work in that scenario is if Less than 2300 people were to enter for those seats as their #1. Only then will the remaining seats go on lottery for people who put it as their #2.

-jake

Yes, as I understand it, the only way a #2 priority pick will come into play is if the number of people who have a particular show/seating option as their #1 is LESS than the total allotted seats for that particular show/seating option. Which I believe will be non-existent in all markets.

I think in all markets/seating options, the request will be higher than the number of allotted spots. So in theory, ALL #2 priority picks will not come into play.

That's my take on it, but I could be totally wrong....

Leezestarr313 · July 2013

But somebody will win those GA tickets they chose as their first priority. If everybody is so scared to lose and chooses Res because of that, it might be easier to win GA :P

Yeah, I don't really believe that either

mcriecken · July 2013

nevmiles wrote:

jakesbluskyhome wrote:

The only way a #2 pick would work in that scenario is if Less than 2300 people were to enter for those seats as their #1. Only then will the remaining seats go on lottery for people who put it as their #2.

-jake

Yes, as I understand it, the only way a #2 priority pick will come into play is if the number of people who have a particular show/seating option as their #1 is LESS than the total allotted seats for that particular show/seating option. Which I believe will be non-existent in all markets.

I think in all markets/seating options, the request will be higher than the number of allotted spots. So in theory, ALL #2 priority picks will not come into play.

That's my take on it, but I could be totally wrong....

I think a lot of people are focused on the number of available tickets too much. In the end it's going to matter where people put their choices. If everyone puts their #1s in Philly, Brooklyn, etc., then that's going to open up a lot of possibilities in other markets for #2 or even #3 choices to win, regardless of how many tickets are available at each venue. Obviously it's not likely that all #1s will go to a few select shows, but I would wager it will be skewed that way. Which does open up the potential for lower choices to win in other markets.

nevmiles · July 2013

Well I'm in for Buffalo . . . GA as #1 and Seating as #2. I can't strategize too much beyond that because I can't and won't be going to any other shows. I'm just going to let fate decide!

If I get shut out I won't be going at all because I won't be around to buy tickets on the 27th during the public sale as I'll be traveling . . . so I can't really stress about it too much!

nevmiles · July 2013

mcriecken wrote:

nevmiles wrote:

Yes, as I understand it, the only way a #2 priority pick will come into play is if the number of people who have a particular show/seating option as their #1 is LESS than the total allotted seats for that particular show/seating option. Which I believe will be non-existent in all markets.

I think in all markets/seating options, the request will be higher than the number of allotted spots. So in theory, ALL #2 priority picks will not come into play.

That's my take on it, but I could be totally wrong....

I think a lot of people are focused on the number of available tickets too much. In the end it's going to matter where people put their choices. If everyone puts their #1s in Philly, Brooklyn, etc., then that's going to open up a lot of possibilities in other markets for #2 or even #3 choices to win, regardless of how many tickets are available at each venue. Obviously it's not likely that all #1s will go to a few select shows, but I would wager it will be skewed that way. Which does open up the potential for lower choices to win in other markets.

True, but what I'm saying is that I think in ALL markets, there will be enough #1 priorities for all seating options, meaning the #2's will be useless . . . but I could be wrong. it doesn't matter WHERE the #1 choices are, there will be enough so that all #1 choices are used.... if you know what I mean.

Let's say Hartford has 500 GA tickets . . it doesn't matter if only 501 people put it as their number 1 or if 5,001 people do . . ALL the GA tickets will still go to people who put it as #1. Sure, more people might put GA in Philly as their number 1 than GA in Hartford, but in both markets, all tickets will be given to people with them as a #1 . . . wow, my head just exploded.

... Either that, or I am totally off. I dunno.

jamburger · July 2013

TunnelThroughDenial wrote:

I've pondered this all day. It's really quite simple what to do.

1) Put your #1 priority on your local show or if there is no local show for you on the closest and hopefully smaller market towns

2) Never select GA and Reserved for the same show unless you only want to attend one show because your next show becomes priority three. No one knows the math, especially how many 10 clubbers go for a show, but I sense priority three could be a long shot luck of the draw deal

3) Don't select a single show you don't want or can't afford, or for whatever reason are very unlikely to attend. You just might win and lose $160 while you lower the odds for someone else

4) Rely on public sale if you lose, don't fuss over it, and just be happy if you win one through 10C

Please! No one wants to read your common sense approach.

bonowall · July 2013

This is a great (and painful) thread - too much thinking.

A couple of random questions:

- when the lottery window opened, I opted for the 5 shows I wanted to attend, 4 GA and 1 Reserved. Then a friend of mine wen in later that afternoon and went to enter for one of those shows as well - PHX. She asked me if i was given the option between GA / Reserved to which I told her...yes. She said that she was only given the Reserved option in entering the lottery. Has anyone who has queued up on that first day (or since) cancelled their "plan" and re-entered their information to find certain options NOT AVAILABLE?
- Based on the comments here, I am considering cancelling my existing strategy and tweaking the options a bit but, because of the experience of my friend in trying for GA PHX (not being there) and this antiquated (F5) mentality that, for some reason, the timing of your entries has some impact on the drawing (which i know it doens't..hence lottery), i am reluctant to try. Has anyone done it or have you all "locked in".

Thanks and good luck to you all!

rawpixels · July 2013

I preferred the old system, in which the site would crash and rip our faces off. Frustrating, but always managed to get tickets.

Leezestarr313 · July 2013

bonowall wrote:

This is a great (and painful) thread - too much thinking.

A couple of random questions:

- when the lottery window opened, I opted for the 5 shows I wanted to attend, 4 GA and 1 Reserved. Then a friend of mine wen in later that afternoon and went to enter for one of those shows as well - PHX. She asked me if i was given the option between GA / Reserved to which I told her...yes. She said that she was only given the Reserved option in entering the lottery. Has anyone who has queued up on that first day (or since) cancelled their "plan" and re-entered their information to find certain options NOT AVAILABLE?
- Based on the comments here, I am considering cancelling my existing strategy and tweaking the options a bit but, because of the experience of my friend in trying for GA PHX (not being there) and this antiquated (F5) mentality that, for some reason, the timing of your entries has some impact on the drawing (which i know it doens't..hence lottery), i am reluctant to try. Has anyone done it or have you all "locked in".

Thanks and good luck to you all!

Wow, really? Well, that settles it, I won't change my stuff again. My four changes were all done on the first day, and all the options were available. It seems weird that you cannot chose GA anymore when the drawing hasn't taken place yet :think:

bonowall · July 2013

I don't want to suggest that this is all fact - I am interested to see if anyone has tried it and found out that both options for all shows are still intact. If it ISN'T then i can see a bunch of us getting pissed...specifically because, as you said, nothing should be decided at this point.

I am hoping someone can confirm that what my friend saw was simply an error or glitch.

Cheers.

Leezestarr313 · July 2013

bonowall wrote:

I don't want to suggest that this is all fact - I am interested to see if anyone has tried it and found out that both options for all shows are still intact. If it ISN'T then i can see a bunch of us getting pissed...specifically because, as you said, nothing should be decided at this point.

I am hoping someone can confirm that what my friend saw was simply an error or glitch.

Cheers.

Would be good to know :thumbup: Good luck you'll get what you're after!

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