Here are some tips on how to play the lottery

pjsteelerfan

know1 wrote:

Vytis33 wrote:

I put in for a couple shows I want to hit, but you all realize there's still going to be a public sale for 90% of the tickets right?

That's what some seem to be missing. If they want to go to a show, they can likely still go if the lottery doesn't work for them.

I don't think anyone is really missing that. But if you think 90% of the remaining tickets are actually going to be available, that is not the way Ticketmaster works. A sizable portion will go to their partners, re-sellers, scalpers, then to radio stations, credit card presales, etc.

RE4790

pjsteelerfan wrote:

know1 wrote:

Vytis33 wrote:

I put in for a couple shows I want to hit, but you all realize there's still going to be a public sale for 90% of the tickets right?

That's what some seem to be missing. If they want to go to a show, they can likely still go if the lottery doesn't work for them.

I don't think anyone is really missing that. But if you think 90% of the remaining tickets are actually going to be available, that is not the way Ticketmaster works. A sizable portion will go to their partners, re-sellers, scalpers, then to radio stations, credit card presales, etc.

It's not just Ticketmaster, it's how the entire industry works, but you are correct. I recall reading that it's really something closer to 40% for general sales.

JB128716

pjsteelerfan wrote:

know1 wrote:

Vytis33 wrote:

I put in for a couple shows I want to hit, but you all realize there's still going to be a public sale for 90% of the tickets right?

That's what some seem to be missing. If they want to go to a show, they can likely still go if the lottery doesn't work for them.

I don't think anyone is really missing that. But if you think 90% of the remaining tickets are actually going to be available, that is not the way Ticketmaster works. A sizable portion will go to their partners, re-sellers, scalpers, then to radio stations, credit card presales, etc.

I agree. I'm having flashbacks to Wrigley. A lot of people said, don't worry there will be a public sale. How fast can 40,000 tickets go. Then there was a cubs pre-sale, then a neighborhood pre-sale, then some sites that won't be mentioned had tickets before the public sale.

Next thing you know, Wrigley was the fastest sellout in its history. Yes, this is a unique and special show. It still sold out before many of us die hard fans even had a chance to purchase tickets.

With arenas, you have people that are season ticket holders to the local sports team that might get first dibs, you have credit card companies that might have first dibs, you have re-sellers that have backdoor deals, etc...

I hope everyone gets as many tickets as they want, I really do. My guess is that most people will get one pair of tickets via the 10c and that's not bad. Others will be shutout entirely.

Other acts are not selling very well (NiN and Black Sabbath sales are slow in Florida). There are concerts that are advertising buy one get one free just to get people in the door.

It will be interesting to see if PJ has instant sellouts or if they end up struggling like many other acts. I'm leaning towards the instant sellouts as they strategically are making their tours shorter and playing key markets. And I say good for them.

wingend

Well one problem solved here. I won two tickets this morning from my local radio station for the Pittsburgh show. Pretty awesome.

jakesbluskyhome

Congrats on your luck!!

And yes, i too plan on going to 5 shows, so I am well aware I will have to go thru public sale to get all the shows I want. My plan is to get as many people as I can to be on ticketmaster at 10 am on july 27 and have them all try to score me tix for different shows. Strength in numbers. Maybe just maybe then I will be able to sidestep the naxiety of not having a ticket. But probably not :roll:

bchagnon

This is how this should have worked:

priority picks should have been for the show only, with an option to be considered for our to opt out of GA.

Once selected for a show, seating is based on preference (either opt in or out of GA consideration), and then based on seniority.

Brian

kc007

just curious, has anyone ever put in the lottery for all shows and won a few? or at least one show? I've got lots of free time, so I can travel, just wondering what the odds would be. I'm terrible at math. :corn:

Leezestarr313

bchagnon wrote:

This is how this should have worked:

priority picks should have been for the show only, with an option to be considered for our to opt out of GA.

Once selected for a show, seating is based on preference (either opt in or out of GA consideration), and then based on seniority.

Brian

:thumbup:

JB128716

kc007 wrote:

just curious, has anyone ever put in the lottery for all shows and won a few? or at least one show? I've got lots of free time, so I can travel, just wondering what the odds would be. I'm terrible at math. :corn:

They've only done this for Wrigley and London shows. Not sure if anyone won both by themselves (meaning maybe a married couple did).

My assumption is if you win your second pick, it will be for Non-GA for a smaller market show. At least per leg.

You could certainly win one for one leg and one for the second leg.

jfconnorjr

I think you should all focus on something you can actually control.
Put in for what you want. If you don't get it, try on the 27th.

CranMalReign

JB128716 wrote:

kc007 wrote:

just curious, has anyone ever put in the lottery for all shows and won a few? or at least one show? I've got lots of free time, so I can travel, just wondering what the odds would be. I'm terrible at math. :corn:

They've only done this for Wrigley and London shows. Not sure if anyone won both by themselves (meaning maybe a married couple did).

My assumption is if you win your second pick, it will be for Non-GA for a smaller market show. At least per leg.

You could certainly win one for one leg and one for the second leg.

Friend of mine won for both London and Wrigley.

TresentPense

As a local NY'er, I'm trying to pull off the local shows in Brooklyn and then those in Philly...so my strategy was:
1st choice: Brooklyn X / reserved seats
2nd Choice: Philly X / reserved seats
3rd Choice: Philly Y / reserved seats

This way, I'm putting my best eggs in ONE local show, since I can only win for one of them anyway...and one of choices 2 & 3 will hopefully pan out based on demand there. Who knows. It's the best I can hope for, without shooting myself in the foot by burning up to choices 1-4 on Brooklyn KNOWING only one of them can pan out - right?

What concerns me is that for Chicago, I didn't get my first choice - and only got my 2nd (which, yes, was better than nothing - and hopefully a whole tour will spread out demand significantly more).

Am I an idiot, or does this actually make sense? I convinced myself of both outcomes.

Smellyman

bchagnon wrote:

This is how this should have worked:

priority picks should have been for the show only, with an option to be considered for our to opt out of GA.

Once selected for a show, seating is based on preference (either opt in or out of GA consideration), and then based on seniority.

Brian

yup

what dreams

jjax97 wrote:

I hate to mention it, but: There's always the possibility of missing on the lottery and getting tix July 27th.quote]

I have to keep believing in July 27. This is my first time trying the pre-sale, and reading all these scenarios is making me nuts! In the past, I have seen all my PJ shows through Ticketmaster. Being ready to go right at that shotgun has its own set of stress, but I think I like that stress better. It only lasts about ten minutes. This is a whole week of insanity!

SDNick484

what dreams wrote:

jjax97 wrote:

I hate to mention it, but: There's always the possibility of missing on the lottery and getting tix July 27th.quote]

I have to keep believing in July 27. This is my first time trying the pre-sale, and reading all these scenarios is making me nuts! In the past, I have seen all my PJ shows through Ticketmaster. Being ready to go right at that shotgun has its own set of stress, but I think I like that stress better. It only lasts about ten minutes. This is a whole week of insanity!

I actually like this lotto method over previous 10C pre-sales. In previous sales, the backend app servers slowed to a crawl the second tickets were opened and usually crashed entirely within a minute or two after. At least for me, it was never over in 10 minutes because you had to wait for the app servers to restart and pray that your tickets were still being held. Also if you hit refresh at the wrong time, you could cause your card to be authorized multiple times which caused your bank to hold funds as pending until the authorization dropped a couple days later (really bad for folks that use debit). With the Canadian tour pre-sale in 2011, they tried to host a presale twice, but the results were so bad that they had to eventually outsource it to ticketmaster (which actually worked rather well) because they could at least handle the load on their backend. I was actually hoping they would do that again, but I think this lotto method is a reasonable alternative (in theory).

JB128716

CranMalReign wrote:

JB128716 wrote:

kc007 wrote:

just curious, has anyone ever put in the lottery for all shows and won a few? or at least one show? I've got lots of free time, so I can travel, just wondering what the odds would be. I'm terrible at math. :corn:

They've only done this for Wrigley and London shows. Not sure if anyone won both by themselves (meaning maybe a married couple did).

My assumption is if you win your second pick, it will be for Non-GA for a smaller market show. At least per leg.

You could certainly win one for one leg and one for the second leg.

Friend of mine won for both London and Wrigley.

You lucky lucky bastard (Monty Python quote from Life of Brian)

MG79478

JB128716 wrote:

Now if you are like me and don't have a local show, go for the gold like I am. Pick a big market and go for the GA. If you win, it will make the flights, hotels, etc... worth it. If you lose, you weren't going anyway. If you live in the North East, pick a gold show for the West Coast leg (leg 3) and try the same strategy.

And this is the #1 reason the lottery sucks, and everyone has worse odds than with F5.

Red Mosquito75

Tix from ticketmaster should be pretty easy if you don't win lottery. Not for GA but for some decent tix

iamloco724

Red Mosquito75 wrote:

Tix from ticketmaster should be pretty easy if you don't win lottery. Not for GA but for some decent tix

nothing from ticketbasterd is ever easy especially pearl jam shows in big markets everytime ive tried yes i usually get seats but nothing too good

Father Hubbard

Its too bad that the touringfans.net data isnt still up from prior tours. It was pretty good for giving you an idea of your seat location ahead of time, but this time around it would be cool to see the number of fan club members that went to the shows in the big cities vs the smaller markets.