THE LINE & "THE LIST"

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  • PH20
    PH20 Posts: 466
    JB128716 wrote:
    GA people are going to smell and have Sunburn.

    Viva La section 400's!!!

    LOL!!!
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    2011 - Alpine Valley Ampitheater, East Troy
    2013 - Wrigley Field, Chicago
    2014 - Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul
    2014 - Bradley Center, Milwaukee
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  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    PH20 wrote:
    JB128716 wrote:
    GA people are going to smell and have Sunburn.

    Viva La section 400's!!!

    LOL!!!


    There's no escaping the Chicago mid-summer humidity. You take a shower, dry off, walk outside and in seconds you're dripping with sweat. haha. And of course all fans have equal hat-wearing sunscreen opportunities, AND last I checked the 400s are as equally uncovered as the GA field are.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    ill be at GA..ill enter at 7:25 pm..5 min before show starts...

    and im goona have a blast and rock my ass out..

    we are a group of 35-40 friends -fans gonna be all in the back of GA....
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    edited June 2013
    ill be at GA..ill enter at 7:25 pm..5 min before show starts...

    and im goona have a blast and rock my ass out..

    we are a group of 35-40 friends -fans gonna be all in the back of GA....

    "I'm by your side." I plan to do the exact same. I've been lucky enough to see them up close a few times. But what say you about the discussion at hand, Dimi? You always seem to have a fair-minded take on all issues of the day.
    Post edited by Mamasan Bren on
    1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II. 
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Cosmo wrote:
    From my experience... Lists tend to bring out the Nazi in otherwise sane people. The person who creates the list turns into fucking Adoph Listler and puts down their friends names on the list. You may count 55 people ahead of you 2 hours before the doors open, but 20 minutes before they open, you are now 243rd in line.
    The best thing is to just get there... sit on the sidewalk and make friends with the people around you. If you have to get up an take a leak, the people around you will let you, just as you would let them. If you need to get up an walk around... cool, get up and walk around, stand in the shade for a bit, have a smoke... whatever.
    Anyway... from my personal experiences... the lists are for the control freak Nazis.
    seriously dude,i dont know you,or ever met you,but i really believe your posts are the most smart comments in the forum...i hope i meet you one day,,will be an honor to shake your hand..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    Horos wrote:

    People need to make a choice: wait in line all day to get close to the stage or attend the parties.

    This...


    Also the professionals will get there the night before with their tents and sleeping bags :)

    Well at least that's how it works in Europe :)

    I am totally taking it easy this time around. I'll enjoy my time with my friends rather than sitting around under hot sun just because that will give me the opportunity to touch FRONTDUDE's leg :P

    You should do it if you have never been rail before though ;)
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

    #resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
    #standingman #duranadam
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    Cosmo wrote:
    From my experience... Lists tend to bring out the Nazi in otherwise sane people. The person who creates the list turns into fucking Adoph Listler and puts down their friends names on the list. You may count 55 people ahead of you 2 hours before the doors open, but 20 minutes before they open, you are now 243rd in line.
    The best thing is to just get there... sit on the sidewalk and make friends with the people around you. If you have to get up an take a leak, the people around you will let you, just as you would let them. If you need to get up an walk around... cool, get up and walk around, stand in the shade for a bit, have a smoke... whatever.
    Anyway... from my personal experiences... the lists are for the control freak Nazis.
    seriously dude,i dont know you,or ever met you,but i really believe your posts are the most smart comments in the forum...i hope i meet you one day,,will be an honor to shake your hand..

    COSMO IS AWESOME! Got the honor of meeting him couple of times. Man with a heart of gold. You should ask Marcia :)
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

    #resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
    #standingman #duranadam
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    Horos wrote:

    People need to make a choice: wait in line all day to get close to the stage or attend the parties.

    This...


    Also the professionals will get there the night before with their tents and sleeping bags :)

    Well at least that's how it works in Europe :)

    I am totally taking it easy this time around. I'll enjoy my time with my friends rather than sitting around under hot sun just because that will give me the opportunity to touch FRONTDUDE's leg :P

    You should do it if you have never been rail before though ;)
    saw pj at the rail..5-6 times..its enough..now ill party all day and go in the back..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    Yep, I'm the same. I've had the joy of being right up front and all that that entails with guitar pics, drumsticks and tambourines. I just feel bad for those that are going to come down early to wait all day with the dream of the same, but aren't going to see it come to being due to the possible abuses of "The list". This Wrigley show really is a unique opportunity in the US for up-close and rail dreams. In London, all can come anytime they please as all will have their assigned seat ticket. The opportunity happens with festivals as a bunch got to experience last year in Philly and other places. The dates this fall will most likely not include GA, minus New Orleans.
    1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II. 
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    Horos wrote:

    People need to make a choice: wait in line all day to get close to the stage or attend the parties.

    This...


    Also the professionals will get there the night before with their tents and sleeping bags :)

    Well at least that's how it works in Europe :)

    I am totally taking it easy this time around. I'll enjoy my time with my friends rather than sitting around under hot sun just because that will give me the opportunity to touch FRONTDUDE's leg :P

    You should do it if you have never been rail before though ;)
    saw pj at the rail..5-6 times..its enough..now ill party all day and go in th
    e back..

    You better party with me this time around :P
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

    #resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
    #standingman #duranadam
  • SOLAT319
    SOLAT319 Posts: 4,609
    Yep, I'm the same. I've had the joy of being right up front and all that that entails with guitar pics, drumsticks and tambourines. I just feel bad for those that are going to come down early to wait all day with the dream of the same, but aren't going to see it come to being due to the possible abuses of "The list". This Wrigley show really is a unique opportunity in the US for up-close and rail dreams. In London, all can come anytime they please as all will have their assigned seat ticket. The opportunity happens with festivals as a bunch got to experience last year in Philly and other places. The dates this fall will most likely not include GA, minus New Orleans.

    Tambourines? Hahahaha please someone post that Willy Wonka picture :D
    I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...

    The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED

    #resistgezi #resistturkey #resisttaksim #direnturkiye #direngezi
    #standingman #duranadam
  • Mamasan Bren
    Mamasan Bren Posts: 960
    haha, I know the one. Remember you posting it actually. Those on the rail dream of the tambourine christening...
    1/95 DC 7/95 Chicago Tor Tol Cha 96 AlpV I II Chi St L KC 98 BSB I II 99 Phx Vegas Fresno SBern 00 BSB I II 01 (met ed) Vegas Phx Fargo St. Paul Chicago Alpine V Indy Col Virg Phi I II MSG I II (got on DVD!) 03 Calg 05 Clev Vegas LA I II SBar 06 Lon Dus Cop Nij Bel 07 Phi I II DC MSG I II Har BOS I II 08, LA3/4, SD '09, MSG I II '10, Missoula, London ONT, Wrigley, SD, LA1/2, Portland. Wrigley '16 I and II. 
  • strummers
    strummers Posts: 2,611
    Horos wrote:

    People need to make a choice: wait in line all day to get close to the stage or attend the parties.

    This!

    A list can work to a degree in the early stages until the official queuing system (barriers/line) is set up by on site security. Do people abuse it? Hell yes. Would people abuse a non-list line and go and sneak in line with 'their friends', of course (I've seen this happen so many times at other gigs - you're maybe 20th in line, by doors you're pushed back to 50+).

    When we queue, we wait in line. If one of us needs the bathroom, one of us will go and come straight back. If we need food we'll either bring it with us or one of us will nip out to the nearest shop and bring the food back to the line. 99% of the time there'll always be one of us in line - no beers, no bars.

    We've met some really great people in PJ lines, we've also seen people who will turn whatever queuing situation to their advantage. No matter what "system" (or lack of) is in place, there will be those people who abuse it to their advantage. It's shit, it shouldn't happen, but it will!

    List lines, non-list lines and life in general would work great if everyone was fair and respectful. Unfortunately, that's not the reality.
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  • jumbojet
    jumbojet Posts: 1,484
    Cosmo wrote:
    From my experience... Lists tend to bring out the Nazi in otherwise sane people. The person who creates the list turns into fucking Adoph Listler and puts down their friends names on the list. You may count 55 people ahead of you 2 hours before the doors open, but 20 minutes before they open, you are now 243rd in line.
    The best thing is to just get there... sit on the sidewalk and make friends with the people around you. If you have to get up an take a leak, the people around you will let you, just as you would let them. If you need to get up an walk around... cool, get up and walk around, stand in the shade for a bit, have a smoke... whatever.
    Anyway... from my personal experiences... the lists are for the control freak Nazis.
    seriously dude,i dont know you,or ever met you,but i really believe your posts are the most smart comments in the forum...i hope i meet you one day,,will be an honor to shake your hand..

    Man, after this, he's gonna have to let you use his shower, too. :lol:
    What's your part, who you are?

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    2013: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires
    2014: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin
    2016: NY MSG 1
  • jumbojet
    jumbojet Posts: 1,484
    strummers wrote:
    we've also seen people who will turn whatever queuing situation to their advantage. No matter what "system" (or lack of) is in place, there will be those people who abuse it to their advantage. It's shit, it shouldn't happen, but it will!

    Haha, that's true. Very well put into words. :corn:
    What's your part, who you are?

    2012: Arras, Berlin 1-2
    2013: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires
    2014: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin
    2016: NY MSG 1
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    I think a list is a good idea and is meaning well but it also can turn ugly and fascist.

    But there is allways people who try to sneak in front (happend in London 07 with some german idiots and Dublin 10 with a british couple) and then it's fun to see the "Adolf Listlers" (often female) scream and getting aggressive :)


    But then the 10C "fans" who have waited all day in front still just stand there with their fucking backpacks on, taking pics of Eddie and looking at their taken pictures all through the concert and only looks up when Eddie is coming over or they play a "rare" song.

    Experienced that in Sthlm. Fuck those people. Fuck them more than the pushing "casuals" or the stupid flags. Your not collectiong rare Hockey cards, enjoy the show instead of crossing of all the Crown of thorns and All those yesterdays from your rare-song list.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • jumbojet
    jumbojet Posts: 1,484
    But then the 10C "fans" who have waited all day in front still just stand there with their fucking backpacks on, taking pics of Eddie and looking at their taken pictures all through the concert and only looks up when Eddie is coming over or they play a "rare" song.

    Experienced that in Sthlm. Fuck those people. Fuck them more than the pushing "casuals" or the stupid flags. Your not collectiong rare Hockey cards, enjoy the show instead of crossing of all the Crown of thorns and All those yesterdays from your rare-song list.

    Hehehe, you should be scared of Ed if you plan to be close to the stage and not rocking. I am still planning to get that Vancouver boot where Ed was kicking the people at front for not rocking hard enough. Just to hear that one.:)
    What's your part, who you are?

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    2013: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires
    2014: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin
    2016: NY MSG 1
  • MG79478
    MG79478 Posts: 1,726
    There shouldn't be a line, and there shouldn't be a list, there should only be a lottery. Someone lazy bastard who shows up 10 minutes before the door opens should have the exact same chance to enter the venue first as someone who camped outside all night. Some people have jobs, families, etc and can't wait in line for hours.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    MG79478 wrote:
    There shouldn't be a line, and there shouldn't be a list, there should only be a lottery. Someone lazy bastard who shows up 10 minutes before the door opens should have the exact same chance to enter the venue first as someone who camped outside all night. Some people have jobs, families, etc and can't wait in line for hours.
    In GA shows, how would that lottery you are talking about work?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • MG79478
    MG79478 Posts: 1,726
    MG79478 wrote:
    There shouldn't be a line, and there shouldn't be a list, there should only be a lottery. Someone lazy bastard who shows up 10 minutes before the door opens should have the exact same chance to enter the venue first as someone who camped outside all night. Some people have jobs, families, etc and can't wait in line for hours.
    In GA shows, how would that lottery you are talking about work?

    People line up, and they hand out numbered bracelets. A number is drawn at random and that person is the front of the line.