Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!

Horse2345 · June 2013

If you order other stuff with the per order will it be held to ship together or shipped separately?

dustinpardue · June 2013

darthvedder wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

You should try downloading again to make sure that you received the file correctly. The link should be in your order history if you don't have it anymore.

Redownloading now...... But cheers for a 98 show in the meantime! Very pleased with the choice

darthvedder · June 2013

dustinpardue wrote:

darthvedder wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

You should try downloading again to make sure that you received the file correctly. The link should be in your order history if you don't have it anymore.

Redownloading now...... But cheers for a 98 show in the meantime! Very pleased with the choice

This is about as close to my ultimate setlist as the band ever got. This show really illustrates the strength of the band's material pre-Binaural. And Eddie sounds great on this boot.

dimitrispearljam · June 2013

boyo79 wrote:

NHiding wrote:

Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50

I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

Cheers dude for the info :thumbup:

+1

Spiritual_Chaos · June 2013

Horse2345 wrote:

If you order other stuff with the per order will it be held to ship together or shipped separately?

"Items ordered with Vinyl will ship at time of purchase."

jonsey30 · June 2013

great version of Black on right now

ACCBootlegGoddess · June 2013

Wow all this new merch.
Picked up the new vault single and finally bought a ladies T I've had my eye on for a while.

Tenclub better be careful...with the Fall tour taking so long to be announced, people are going to kill their CC's with merch and won't be able to afford to do as many shows as they'd like.

This month is killing me. I just bought my plane tix to Chicago last week, I got merch today, NIN tix go onlsale this week and QOTSA announced a tour today so thats more tix to be bought.

Hurry up and announce the damn tour PJ! lol

demetrios · June 2013

javis el errante wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

I was told only yellow ledbetter, and there is some fade-in in the middle of push me pull me...

That's it. Just checked now to see if there's an update on the zip file. Nope. It's still 203 MB.

Dead Man Walking · June 2013

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow all this new merch.
Picked up the new vault single and finally bought a ladies T I've had my eye on for a while.

Tenclub better be careful...with the Fall tour taking so long to be announced, people are going to kill their CC's with merch and won't be able to afford to do as many shows as they'd like.

This month is killing me. I just bought my plane tix to Chicago last week, I got merch today, NIN tix go onlsale this week and QOTSA announced a tour today so thats more tix to be bought.

Hurry up and announce the damn tour PJ! lol

Same here...I was planing on going to 4-5 PJ shows this fall...then NIN announced their tour. I'll be hitting two or three shows. That's onky, I'll still hit 2-3 PJ shows...but then QOTSA is coming now...sooo....2? maybe 3 PJ shows?

Not to mention work is on my case about submitting my vacation time for the fall. If they don't announce anything, I wont be going to any PJ shows....not the end of the world as I will see other great bands and spend my money elsewhere...

Pearl Jam always has first dibs on my wallet but if they're going to take this long to announce anything, Well, I'm taking my money elsewhere.

Spoony C · June 2013

NHiding wrote:

Re: Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!
by javis el errante » Jun 10th, '13, 10:50

I still don't understand how come someone is on tour on a band and doesn't have enough tape...

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

Yeah, I recall Brett Eliason being on AET on SiriusXM once, saying that the problem with the pre-2000 shows--before the band figured out that recording and selling every show was viable--was that Brett was taping mostly for the band's own archive, but that the live show sound was his first priority, so sometimes he'd be too busy to notice a tape was running low and get it changed between songs, and they might be missing half a song here or there.

Of course, they were doing a lot of recording in '98 for what would become Live on Two Legs, so I don't know if attention to detail was that bad by then, but it is an explanation for why the pre-"Official Bootleg"-era shows might have some gaps.

mydogmookieblaylock · June 2013

Dead Man Walking wrote:

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Wow all this new merch.
Picked up the new vault single and finally bought a ladies T I've had my eye on for a while.

Tenclub better be careful...with the Fall tour taking so long to be announced, people are going to kill their CC's with merch and won't be able to afford to do as many shows as they'd like.

This month is killing me. I just bought my plane tix to Chicago last week, I got merch today, NIN tix go onlsale this week and QOTSA announced a tour today so thats more tix to be bought.

Hurry up and announce the damn tour PJ! lol

Same here...I was planing on going to 4-5 PJ shows this fall...then NIN announced their tour. I'll be hitting two or three shows. That's onky, I'll still hit 2-3 PJ shows...but then QOTSA is coming now...sooo....2? maybe 3 PJ shows?

Not to mention work is on my case about submitting my vacation time for the fall. If they don't announce anything, I wont be going to any PJ shows....not the end of the world as I will see other great bands and spend my money elsewhere...

Pearl Jam always has first dibs on my wallet but if they're going to take this long to announce anything, Well, I'm taking my money elsewhere.

2/3 are at Voodoo and i think QOTSA is gonna be there too --- there is a hole in the tour for it

javis el errante · June 2013

demetrios wrote:

javis el errante wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

I was told only yellow ledbetter, and there is some fade-in in the middle of push me pull me...

That's it. Just checked now to see if there's an update on the zip file. Nope. It's still 203 MB.

Someone sent an email and got an answer back: they stated that they had run out of tape during that show, so YL wasn't recorded, the PMPM fade-in issue is still a mistery, and I miss it on today's broadcast... but here's a nice explanation from The Rob...

NHiding wrote:

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

cp3iverson · June 2013

i would think that listening to some of this show might be a little akward for EV. I understand the "tape limitations"

Paulina87 · June 2013

dustinpardue wrote:

So what all is missing? I still can't unzip the file to see for myself.

me too :(

demetrios · June 2013

javis el errante wrote:

demetrios wrote:

javis el errante wrote:

I was told only yellow ledbetter, and there is some fade-in in the middle of push me pull me...

That's it. Just checked now to see if there's an update on the zip file. Nope. It's still 203 MB.

Someone sent an email and got an answer back: they stated that they had run out of tape during that show, so YL wasn't recorded, the PMPM fade-in issue is still a mistery, and I miss it on today's broadcast... but here's a nice explanation from The Rob...

NHiding wrote:

Any vault release that they are gonna put out from the '90s was most likely recorded on ADAT, which was like a VHS tape in size and probably varied in speed and duration of time per tape. So either they ran out of tape or got caught with a tape change during Ledbetter. It's not like putting in a 32gb SD card today!

Whoa! But there's many audience recordings of 9/19/98, that do have Yellow Ledbetter. Couldn't they use any of these sources?

http://db.etree.org/shn/21705
http://db.etree.org/shn/23881
http://db.etree.org/shn/24025

And what about this source?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYZKin2JOM

pleatherman · June 2013

Here is a blast from the past, courtesy of good ol' fivehorizons.com

Live on Two Legs
October 21, 1998: Well, that's the title of the live album.

(Revised at the last minute from Pearl Jam Live At Constitution Hall. Obviously, they were thinking about releasing the entire VFC show --

Ha! I never gave up hope it would eventually be released!
PJ never lets me down

Eraserhead · June 2013

Ordered mine - another item to be buried in my tomb!

jonsey30 · June 2013

Well the 10c radio is playing YL from this show (I think). Not as good of a recording as the rest of the show though.

buck502000 · June 2013

Like what I've heard so far, Eddie's voice is so strong here. Take my money.

javis el errante · June 2013

Yellow Ledbetter?

Lesser quality, but good enough...

demetrios · June 2013

jonsey30 wrote:

Well the 10c radio is playing YL from this show (I think). Not as good of a recording as the rest of the show though.

Yep, from a sweet audience recording. I just hope, and crossing my fingers after preorders are taken that they include one of these audience recording tracks of Yellow Ledbetter pressed on vinyl to include in this release.

youngster · June 2013

vant0037 wrote:

Key phrase: "made-to-order"

Hopefully that means that any 10c member that wants one and orders within the pre-order period, gets one. After the pre-order period, I assume it will be "limited" in edition to the amount of the pre-order + the public availability.

And watch....people will complain after that they didn't have enough time, money etc. and 10c should have given them more time.

It will happen

Hugh Freaking Dillon · June 2013

KUDOS TO THE BAND/FAN CLUB FOR LISTENING TO THEIR FANS AND RELEASING A VAULT SHOW ON VINYL AND DOING IT MADE TO ORDER WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO DO SO.

Excellent job!

aennil · June 2013

javis el errante wrote:

so, can anyone tell how many songs are missing and which ones? I won't waste my download code if the show is not complete... I still can wait a couple of months though...

2013 PEARL JAM VAULT SHOW #3 CONSTITUTION HALL 9/19/98 VINYL PRESALE ORDER

MEMBERS ONLY
Details:
For the first time, the Ten Club is making a vault show available on vinyl.
Pre-order this limited edition, 180 gram 3-LP set now .
Pre-orders available to 10C members only begins immediately and ends at 5 PM Pacific on June 24th.
LP sets will be made to order and will ship around September 1
Due to tape limitataions of the time, push me/pull you and yellow ledbetter are not included in this release.
A 256 kps MP3 version of the show will be available to you when you place the order.
After the pre-sale, there will be a very limited number available to non-members.
Cards will be charged shortly after purchase.

demetrios · June 2013

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

KUDOS TO THE BAND/FAN CLUB FOR LISTENING TO THEIR FANS AND RELEASING A VAULT SHOW ON VINYL AND DOING IT MADE TO ORDER WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO DO SO.

Excellent job!

Excellent job indeed!!

Love the "Made to Order" sale. I hope for the next Vault releases they are Made to Order and if they could, released Vault 1 & Vault 2 in vinyl formats.

javis el errante · June 2013

aennil wrote:

javis el errante wrote:

so, can anyone tell how many songs are missing and which ones? I won't waste my download code if the show is not complete... I still can wait a couple of months though...

2013 PEARL JAM VAULT SHOW #3 CONSTITUTION HALL 9/19/98 VINYL PRESALE ORDER

MEMBERS ONLY
Details:
For the first time, the Ten Club is making a vault show available on vinyl.
Pre-order this limited edition, 180 gram 3-LP set now .
Pre-orders available to 10C members only begins immediately and ends at 5 PM Pacific on June 24th.
LP sets will be made to order and will ship around September 1
Due to tape limitataions of the time, push me/pull you and yellow ledbetter are not included in this release.
A 256 kps MP3 version of the show will be available to you when you place the order.
After the pre-sale, there will be a very limited number available to non-members.
Cards will be charged shortly after purchase.

That was added later, check the thread for comments and quotations... but I might as well use my download code on this one, amazing show, and boots are available everywhere...

jason_94 · June 2013

demetrios wrote:

jonsey30 wrote:

Well the 10c radio is playing YL from this show (I think). Not as good of a recording as the rest of the show though.

Yep, from a sweet audience recording. I just hope, and crossing my fingers after preorders are taken that they include one of these audience recording tracks of Yellow Ledbetter pressed on vinyl to include in this release.

Is that actually an option for them to do for the release? Would there be any rights issues with whoever did the recording or are there no rights issues if it was an "illegal" recording?

I am by no means a lawyer and have no knowledge regarding this. I was just throwing the questions out there.

PH20 · June 2013

javis el errante wrote:

aennil wrote:

javis el errante wrote:

so, can anyone tell how many songs are missing and which ones? I won't waste my download code if the show is not complete... I still can wait a couple of months though...

2013 PEARL JAM VAULT SHOW #3 CONSTITUTION HALL 9/19/98 VINYL PRESALE ORDER

MEMBERS ONLY
Details:
For the first time, the Ten Club is making a vault show available on vinyl.
Pre-order this limited edition, 180 gram 3-LP set now .
Pre-orders available to 10C members only begins immediately and ends at 5 PM Pacific on June 24th.
LP sets will be made to order and will ship around September 1
Due to tape limitataions of the time, push me/pull you and yellow ledbetter are not included in this release.
A 256 kps MP3 version of the show will be available to you when you place the order.
After the pre-sale, there will be a very limited number available to non-members.
Cards will be charged shortly after purchase.

That was added later, check the thread for comments and quotations... but I might as well use my download code on this one, amazing show, and boots are available everywhere...

I thought that was added later. Bummer they're not on there, but I still would have ordered it.

Spoken · June 2013

On XM Sirius Yellow Ledbetter is part of the show.....

demetrios · June 2013

jason_94 wrote:

demetrios wrote:

jonsey30 wrote:

Well the 10c radio is playing YL from this show (I think). Not as good of a recording as the rest of the show though.

Yep, from a sweet audience recording. I just hope, and crossing my fingers after preorders are taken that they include one of these audience recording tracks of Yellow Ledbetter pressed on vinyl to include in this release.

Is that actually an option for them to do for the release? Would there be any rights issues with whoever did the recording or are there no rights issues if it was an "illegal" recording?

I am by no means a lawyer and have no knowledge regarding this. I was just throwing the questions out there.

It can't be illegal if it's Pearl Jam's music, no matter who recorded it. Would be shocking if the fan who recorded this show for personal use sues PJ for using his/her audience recording of that track to put on an official release.

Vault 3 in goods. Vinyl, CD, Download!

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