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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    hedonist wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Yeah, I'm pro-choice AND pro-abortion.

    I think every woman should have one, whether they want it or not.

    I don't really think that anyone in their right mind is 'pro-abortion' but rather have an acceptance of it (like many medical interventions)
    Nailed it.

    really :? and women having multiple abortions this is due to medical intervention?
    Come on you must admit there are people who are pro abortion.
    Pro choice is about the right to make a choice only. Many pro choice work to make other
    options the choice chosen. Then there are others who do not and abortion is the one
    and only solution considered because it's safe, convenient, quick and now relatively low cost.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    pandora wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    I don't really think that anyone in their right mind is 'pro-abortion' but rather have an acceptance of it (like many medical interventions)
    Nailed it.

    really :? and women having multiple abortions this is due to medical intervention?
    Come on you must admit there are people who are pro abortion.
    Pro choice is about the right to make a choice only. Many pro choice work to make other
    options the choice chosen. Then there are others who do not and abortion is the one
    and only solution considered because it's safe, convenient, quick and now relatively low cost.
    There are VERY few women who use abortion as a form of birth control.... Have you ever had an abortion??? It's hardly pleasant! A tiny percentage of women choose to go through that rather than using birth control more responsibly after the first time. It is an absolute myth that abortion is used as a form of birth control at any level that is meaningful to the discussion.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Nailed it.

    really :? and women having multiple abortions this is due to medical intervention?
    Come on you must admit there are people who are pro abortion.
    Pro choice is about the right to make a choice only. Many pro choice work to make other
    options the choice chosen. Then there are others who do not and abortion is the one
    and only solution considered because it's safe, convenient, quick and now relatively low cost.
    There are VERY few women who use abortion as a form of birth control.... Have you ever had an abortion??? It's hardly pleasant! A tiny percentage of women choose to go through that rather than using birth control more responsibly after the first time. It is an absolute myth that abortion is used as a form of birth control at any level that is meaningful to the discussion.
    Aaaand...another one nails it.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I saw 3 sloths while I was in Costa Rica.
    I was swimming in a desolate area when a local came up to me and tried to tell me there was a sloth coming down a palm tree near the beach. We watched for 45 minutes as a sloth descended to the bottom of the tree, looked us straight in the eye, still hugging the tree, and took a big old poop. Then he went back up the tree. It was magnificent. But I wondered why he didn't just poop up from the treetops and let it fall where ever.


    is that where you did the zip line?

    Yup, we did the zipline near A volcano - Arenal. but we saw a sloth in a tree there too.:)
    The beach with the pooping sloth was near Miguel Antonio on the west coast.
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I saw 3 sloths while I was in Costa Rica.
    I was swimming in a desolate area when a local came up to me and tried to tell me there was a sloth coming down a palm tree near the beach. We watched for 45 minutes as a sloth descended to the bottom of the tree, looked us straight in the eye, still hugging the tree, and took a big old poop. Then he went back up the tree. It was magnificent. But I wondered why he didn't just poop up from the treetops and let it fall where ever.


    is that where you did the zip line?

    Yup, we did the zipline near A volcano - Arenal. but we saw a sloth in a tree there too.:)
    The beach with the pooping sloth was near Miguel Antonio on the west coast.


    That's Cool, i need to brush up on my Spanish. Although they do speak English in Belize. :think:
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:

    is that where you did the zip line?

    Yup, we did the zipline near A volcano - Arenal. but we saw a sloth in a tree there too.:)
    The beach with the pooping sloth was near Miguel Antonio on the west coast.

    You're goin to Belize? In Costa rica, most people can speak English too. My Spanish isnt too good, and we got by easily... but I didnt even attempt to buy any drugs.
    That's Cool, i need to brush up on my Spanish. Although they do speak English in Belize. :think:
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    internets FYI update:

    Cats OUT

    Sloths IN


    :arrow: get used to it...
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    You're goin to Belize? In Costa rica, most people can speak English too. My Spanish isnt too good, and we got by easily... but I didnt even attempt to buy any drugs.
    That's Cool, i need to brush up on my Spanish. Although they do speak English in Belize. :think:
    [/quote]

    No immediate plans, but there are cruises from Florida I've looked into, i wana go see the Mayan pyramids and they have the second longest coral reef in the world, no were near the size of Australia's but good enough.
    Parts of Costa Rica look like Eden though.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    You're goin to Belize? In Costa rica, most people can speak English too. My Spanish isnt too good, and we got by easily... but I didnt even attempt to buy any drugs.
    That's Cool, i need to brush up on my Spanish. Although they do speak English in Belize. :think:

    No immediate plans, but there are cruises from Florida I've looked into, i wana go see the Mayan pyramids and they have the second longest coral reef in the world, no were near the size of Australia's but good enough.
    Parts of Costa Rica look like Eden though.[/quote]

    Cool, well if you come through Florida, beers on me. :mrgreen:
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    Cool, well if you come through Florida, beers on me. :mrgreen:

    I wana catch a Luna Rex Show!!! i'm going to bring a rubber band ball and loft them at you all night :lol:

    stock-photo-3445857-rubber-band-ball.jpg
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    inmytree wrote:
    internets FYI update:

    Cats OUT

    Sloths IN


    :arrow: get used to it...

    Never :twisted:
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Nailed it.

    really :? and women having multiple abortions this is due to medical intervention?
    Come on you must admit there are people who are pro abortion.
    Pro choice is about the right to make a choice only. Many pro choice work to make other
    options the choice chosen. Then there are others who do not and abortion is the one
    and only solution considered because it's safe, convenient, quick and now relatively low cost.
    There are VERY few women who use abortion as a form of birth control.... Have you ever had an abortion??? It's hardly pleasant! A tiny percentage of women choose to go through that rather than using birth control more responsibly after the first time. It is an absolute myth that abortion is used as a form of birth control at any level that is meaningful to the discussion.
    Yes I have had an abortion and remember how uncomfortable even after 41 years.
    I remember the emotional turmoil that followed even more so and will always remember
    the guilt to my dying day.

    There are women who do have multiple abortions. But more importantly in my post
    and the point being made there are pro choice people who work
    towards less abortion and more options for women. These people are pro choice.
    Pro abortion people are not actively seeking to do so, nor are the women who find
    themselves in need of abortions. Abortions are still a solution of choice for the reasons
    mentioned. Not finding fault with that just clarifying pro choice and pro abortion,
    as I see it.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    really :? and women having multiple abortions this is due to medical intervention?
    Come on you must admit there are people who are pro abortion.
    Pro choice is about the right to make a choice only. Many pro choice work to make other
    options the choice chosen. Then there are others who do not and abortion is the one
    and only solution considered because it's safe, convenient, quick and now relatively low cost.
    There are VERY few women who use abortion as a form of birth control.... Have you ever had an abortion??? It's hardly pleasant! A tiny percentage of women choose to go through that rather than using birth control more responsibly after the first time. It is an absolute myth that abortion is used as a form of birth control at any level that is meaningful to the discussion.
    Yes I have had an abortion and remember how uncomfortable even after 41 years.
    I remember the emotional turmoil that followed even more so and will always remember
    the guilt to my dying day.

    There are women who do have multiple abortions. But more importantly in my post
    and the point being made there are pro choice people who work
    towards less abortion and more options for women. These people are pro choice.
    Pro abortion people are not actively seeking to do so, nor are the women who find
    themselves in need of abortions. Abortions are still a solution of choice for the reasons
    mentioned. Not finding fault with that just clarifying pro choice and pro abortion,
    as I see it.
    So you are pro-abortion too.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    Cool, well if you come through Florida, beers on me. :mrgreen:

    I wana catch a Luna Rex Show!!! i'm going to bring a rubber band ball and loft them at you all night :lol:

    stock-photo-3445857-rubber-band-ball.jpg

    :lol:
    As long as those are the only balls thrown at me :lol:
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So you are pro-abortion too.
    I have been actively working to promote less abortion and consider myself pro choice.
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    BinauralJam wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:

    Cool, well if you come through Florida, beers on me. :mrgreen:

    I wana catch a Luna Rex Show!!! i'm going to bring a rubber band ball and loft them at you all night :lol:

    stock-photo-3445857-rubber-band-ball.jpg

    :lol:
    As long as those are the only balls thrown at me :lol:


    :lol: Not the Whole ball nutter, One by One. Like Chinese water torture.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So you are pro-abortion too.
    I have been actively working to promote less abortion and consider myself pro choice.
    What do you do to actively work to promote less abortion and still remain pro-choice? Saying that anyone who has an abortion is "pro-abortion" doesn't seem very pro-choice to me...
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    So you are pro-abortion too.
    I have been actively working to promote less abortion and consider myself pro choice.
    What do you do to actively work to promote less abortion and still remain pro-choice? Saying that anyone who has an abortion is "pro-abortion" doesn't seem very pro-choice to me...

    Actively seeking to promote one outcome in whichever way, whether by 'counseling', trying to make a woman change her mind, looking at her moral values, judging her, showing graphic pictures, scare tactics, 'persuasion', or whatever is not 'pro-choice'. It is working towards an agenda which is not an un-biased 'choice' but a well defined outcome. It is not respecting the woman's right to make a free, informed decision.

    Like saying I'm fine with gay marriage because in the end it's their choice, but I will actively seek to put spanners in the wheels, I will actively challenge this, to modify the outcome that suits my values and ethics.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    This is absolutly the most bizarre thread ever , there sloth's crapping , abortions , baby crawling away from being left out in cold......What am i missing anybody bring up shooting the baby's as a choice ....Whacky friday damn if everyone here could meet up for drinks that would be f'n fun :mrgreen:
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    I guess such a flippant first post lead to this.... :mrgreen:

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