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otter

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

Jason P

I'm in.

:corn:

Godfather.

the stronger and more dominit of the species has spoken.


Godfather.

inmytree

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

dogs and hamsters and monkeys and lions kill there offspring....?

what about sloths...do sloths kill there offspring...? I hope not...that would make me so crazy mad that I would try to link random things together to make a point...that crazy madness that I would feel would cause silly reasoning, too...

Jeanwah

Gotta ignore the troll threads.

pandora

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

inmytree

pandora wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

your Dad ate your mice....? that's fucked

catefrances

inmytree wrote:

pandora wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

your Dad ate your mice....? that's fucked

pandora

inmytree wrote:

pandora wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

your Dad ate your mice....? that's fucked

it was a horrible surprise I cried for days.

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

wow that's the ultimate paranoia right there... how orwellian of you... but I have to ask in which situations do you think authority would demand abortions??

Jason P

inmytree

Jason P wrote:

I love that documentary....

pandora

catefrances wrote:

wow that's the ultimate paranoia right there... how orwellian of you... but I have to ask in which situations do you think authority would demand abortions??

paranoia :? that's a given for you I guess, an answer for everything.

China
world population control
one world power

I am thinking some atheists could be in favor of this type of population control
if deemed necessary.

This is off topic to discuss but maybe another thread.
I would like to stay on the OP's topic though I think they might have related
to my original thought...
just a thought no need to dissect.

redrock

inmytree wrote:

what about sloths...do sloths kill there offspring...? I hope not...that would make me so crazy mad that I would try to link random things together to make a point...that crazy madness that I would feel would cause silly reasoning, too...

Don't panic!!!! They don't! Though if the little one falls from the tree, they don't bother getting it back... Now that's cruel. Should send your madness spinning!!!

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

and still I find the need to ask in what situation do you feel this might eventuate... considering how tight the authorities feel the need to squeeze a womens right to choose.. to have sovereignty over her own body, just as men do? in societies where the pretense is that women are equal to men(I know im laughing too) and where women actually have the cojones to say fuck you my bodys nobodys body but mine? you do understand the meaning of mandatory, right?

brianlux

Let's see... the idea is parents should be allowed to kill their children up to the age at which they can care for themselves and, of course, children once, they learn to think for themselves, should be allowed to kill their parents who do nothing but stifle their true existence and old people should be killed because they're useless. The end result is a world full of teenagers who turn in on themselves and kill most of themselves off. A few teenagers survive and the apes take over and the teenagers are forced to mate with the alpha apes.

The point of all this was to create a story board for the next Planet of the Apes movie. Did I get that right?

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

and still I find the need to ask in what situation do you feel this might eventuate... considering how tight the authorities feel the need to squeeze a womens right to choose.. to have sovereignty over her own body, just as men do? in societies where the pretense is that women are equal to men(I know im laughing too) and where women actually have the cojones to say fuck you my bodys nobodys body but mine? you do understand the meaning of mandatory, right?

You may notice I highlighted your definition in red a page back. So yes I get it :?

I answered your situation question. I mentioned population control and listed 3 scenarios.
It's becoming increasingly obvious to me the last couple of exchanges in threads
you are not attempting to read or understand but only challenge.

As I said off topic and no need to dissect.

I mentioned this only for the Op thinking they might appreciate the related
thought. It is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum but unfortunately a feasible one.

JonnyPistachio

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I'm kinda hoping my Dad comes back at some point to finish me off. I've done some terrible things and my sentences are not anything to brag about.

hedonist

JonnyPistachio wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I'm kinda hoping my Dad comes back at some point to finish me off. I've done some terrible things and my sentences are not anything to brag about.

Yeah, but you have a book out so brag on, good sir :P

Anyway, this is one odd and semi-fuckedup thread.

"strange days, indeed!"

Sing it, John.

JonnyPistachio

hedonist wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

otter wrote:

A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

I'm kinda hoping my Dad comes back at some point to finish me off. I've done some terrible things and my sentences are not anything to brag about.

Yeah, but you have a book out so brag on, good sir :P

Anyway, this is one odd and semi-fuckedup thread.

"strange days, indeed!"

Sing it, John.

That book is precisely why he should finish me once and for all

Jeanwah

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
reached the lowest of low.

I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
no comparisons drawn though.

seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

man·da·to·ry (mnd-tôr, -tr)
adj.
1. Required or commanded by authority; obligatory: Attendance at the meeting is mandatory.

2. Of, having the nature of, or containing a mandate.

3. Holding a League of Nations mandate over a territory.

n. pl. man·da·to·ries
A mandatary.

Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

PJ_Soul

This is dumb.

BinauralJam

Well I do wish there were laws for population control. But i was thinking more like contraception not murdering after the fact.

catefrances

pandora wrote:

You may notice I highlighted your definition in red a page back. So yes I get it :?

I answered your situation question. I mentioned population control and listed 3 scenarios.
It's becoming increasingly obvious to me the last couple of exchanges in threads
you are not attempting to read or understand but only challenge.

As I said off topic and no need to dissect.

I mentioned this only for the Op thinking they might appreciate the related
thought. It is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum but unfortunately a feasible one.

it is highly unfeasible for a nation to kill its future work force. the population of the nation gets older and theres no new people being born to replace them? highly doubtful an eventuality. tho I have to admit pandora itd make a hell of a sci fi flick.

Cosmo

Much of human life begins an hour or so after last call.

dimitrispearljam

i read the thread...cant remember when i was so confused by reading here something in the past..

otter

Jeanwah wrote:

Gotta ignore the troll threads.

Call me names because you don't agree with me?

A women should do whatever she wants with her body. Why should she be forced to take care of her baby? If she wants to put her baby out in the yard in the winter so she can take a nap that is her choice! It's her body. At least the baby could crawl away and maybe have a chance to live it would have a better shot than being trapped in her body when she can pay a doctor to kill it.

I just think a parent has the right to kill their baby. They can't kill anybody just their baby. Who cares if its born or not? What is a life? If a person can't sing along to betterman then their parent can kill them.

Lets move FORWARD people!

inmytree

otter wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Gotta ignore the troll threads.

Call me names because you don't agree with me?

A women should do whatever she wants with her body. Why should she be forced to take care of her baby? If she wants to put her baby out in the yard in the winter so she can take a nap that is her choice! It's her body. At least the baby could crawl away and maybe have a chance to live it would have a better shot than being trapped in her body when she can pay a doctor to kill it.

I just think a parent has the right to kill their baby. They can't kill anybody just their baby. Who cares if its born or not? What is a life? If a person can't sing along to betterman then their parent can kill them.

Lets move FORWARD people!

some adult friends of mine don't know the words to betterman....they better not piss me off, I'll tell their parents...

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

You may notice I highlighted your definition in red a page back. So yes I get it :?

I answered your situation question. I mentioned population control and listed 3 scenarios.
It's becoming increasingly obvious to me the last couple of exchanges in threads
you are not attempting to read or understand but only challenge.

As I said off topic and no need to dissect.

I mentioned this only for the Op thinking they might appreciate the related
thought. It is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum but unfortunately a feasible one.

it is highly unfeasible for a nation to kill its future work force. the population of the nation gets older and theres no new people being born to replace them? highly doubtful an eventuality. tho I have to admit pandora itd make a hell of a sci fi flick.

I will happily admit I am a sci fi fan yes. And I am impressionable. Put the two together you have trouble

But China has been a good example of population control with different means.
I don't pretend to know a lot about that country, it's people, or exactly how that all worked but it seems to have been successful for them. And no not agreeing with the policy.

I can see if world population needs to be controlled worldwide under a one world power
in the future that limiting births will be a means to an end
and forced abortion a more extreme measure as would be sterilization.

But like I said I posted the thought not for dissection but for the OP.