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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    hedonist wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    otter wrote:
    A mother and/or father or adoptive parents (gay or straight) should legally be aloud to kill any of their children at any time for any reason from conception until that person can survive completely on their own or be able to express themselves with complete sentences. It is perfectly normal for animals to kill their offspring and since we are merely animals there should be the same rules in our society just like all other animal societies. Monkeys, lions, hamsters, dogs, and so on.

    I have had an awakening. I think this is where the abortion debate is headed and as a liberal I want to move our American society FORWARD!!!!

    I'm kinda hoping my Dad comes back at some point to finish me off. I've done some terrible things and my sentences are not anything to brag about.
    Yeah, but you have a book out so brag on, good sir :P

    Anyway, this is one odd and semi-fuckedup thread.

    "strange days, indeed!"

    Sing it, John.

    :mrgreen::mrgreen: That book is precisely why he should finish me once and for all :lol:
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    pandora wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I just hope it doesn't become mandatory to have abortions, to me we will have then
    reached the lowest of low.

    I had pet mice as a little girl. It was the Dad doing the killing and eating,
    no comparisons drawn though.


    seriously?? really??? you think this is even a possibility???

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    Not in my lifetime hopefully but yes I think it is very much a possibility.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    This is dumb.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Well I do wish there were laws for population control. But i was thinking more like contraception not murdering after the fact.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    pandora wrote:
    You may notice I highlighted your definition in red a page back. So yes I get it :?

    I answered your situation question. I mentioned population control and listed 3 scenarios.
    It's becoming increasingly obvious to me the last couple of exchanges in threads
    you are not attempting to read or understand but only challenge.

    As I said off topic and no need to dissect.

    I mentioned this only for the Op thinking they might appreciate the related
    thought. It is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum but unfortunately a feasible one.

    it is highly unfeasible for a nation to kill its future work force. the population of the nation gets older and theres no new people being born to replace them? highly doubtful an eventuality. tho I have to admit pandora itd make a hell of a sci fi flick. ;)
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Much of human life begins an hour or so after last call.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    i read the thread...cant remember when i was so confused by reading here something in the past..
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  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Gotta ignore the troll threads.

    Call me names because you don't agree with me?

    A women should do whatever she wants with her body. Why should she be forced to take care of her baby? If she wants to put her baby out in the yard in the winter so she can take a nap that is her choice! It's her body. At least the baby could crawl away and maybe have a chance to live it would have a better shot than being trapped in her body when she can pay a doctor to kill it.

    I just think a parent has the right to kill their baby. They can't kill anybody just their baby. Who cares if its born or not? What is a life? If a person can't sing along to betterman then their parent can kill them.

    Lets move FORWARD people!
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    edited May 2013
    otter wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Gotta ignore the troll threads.

    Call me names because you don't agree with me?

    A women should do whatever she wants with her body. Why should she be forced to take care of her baby? If she wants to put her baby out in the yard in the winter so she can take a nap that is her choice! It's her body. At least the baby could crawl away and maybe have a chance to live it would have a better shot than being trapped in her body when she can pay a doctor to kill it.

    I just think a parent has the right to kill their baby. They can't kill anybody just their baby. Who cares if its born or not? What is a life? If a person can't sing along to betterman then their parent can kill them.

    Lets move FORWARD people!

    some adult friends of mine don't know the words to betterman....they better not piss me off, I'll tell their parents...
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    catefrances wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    You may notice I highlighted your definition in red a page back. So yes I get it :?

    I answered your situation question. I mentioned population control and listed 3 scenarios.
    It's becoming increasingly obvious to me the last couple of exchanges in threads
    you are not attempting to read or understand but only challenge.

    As I said off topic and no need to dissect.

    I mentioned this only for the Op thinking they might appreciate the related
    thought. It is kind of the opposite end of the spectrum but unfortunately a feasible one.

    it is highly unfeasible for a nation to kill its future work force. the population of the nation gets older and theres no new people being born to replace them? highly doubtful an eventuality. tho I have to admit pandora itd make a hell of a sci fi flick. ;)
    I will happily admit I am a sci fi fan yes. And I am impressionable. Put the two together you have trouble ;)

    But China has been a good example of population control with different means.
    I don't pretend to know a lot about that country, it's people, or exactly how that all worked but it seems to have been successful for them. And no not agreeing with the policy.

    I can see if world population needs to be controlled worldwide under a one world power
    in the future that limiting births will be a means to an end
    and forced abortion a more extreme measure as would be sterilization.

    But like I said I posted the thought not for dissection but for the OP.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    For me, though I am pro choice, I don't think this is a fucked up thread at all.
    I think it creative, bright, and sends a pretty clear message though I'm not sure
    the pro choice people want to see it, might rather make jest and avoid understanding it.

    There are many people like me who are pro choice but not pro abortion.

    This thread actually makes me think about just how pro choice I am.

    When given the choice to abort a life, within the law, not yet born
    and a child who has joined the world, I see a clear difference in the law's eyes...
    but really when you come down to it is there any difference at all?
    say in God's eyes, say in the unborn souls eyes? say in the big picture of life?

    We could not stomach as human beings babies being killed once they are here
    so why so many choose to kill before they are?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    pandora wrote:
    For me, though I am pro choice, I don't think this is a fucked up thread at all.
    I think it creative, bright, and sends a pretty clear message though I'm not sure
    the pro choice people want to see it, might rather make jest and avoid understanding it.

    There are many people like me who are pro choice but not pro abortion.

    This thread actually makes me think about just how pro choice I am.

    When given the choice to abort a life, within the law, not yet born
    and a child who has joined the world, I see a clear difference in the law's eyes...
    but really when you come down to it is there any difference at all?
    say in God's eyes, say in the unborn souls eyes? say in the big picture of life?

    We could not stomach as human beings babies being killed once they are here
    so why so many choose to kill before they are?

    you make good points...parents should be able to kill there kids...you know, cuz of god and stuff...

    thanks for clearing things up...
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Ah yes good points indeed...
    how to win friends and influence people ;) kind of like yanking chains
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    pandora wrote:
    There are many people like me who are pro choice but not pro abortion.
    Yeah, I'm pro-choice AND pro-abortion.

    I think every woman should have one, whether they want it or not.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inmytree wrote:
    what about sloths...do sloths kill there offspring...? I hope not


    they do a lot more than that!

    they are not to be trusted in anyway

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/17201
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    hedonist wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    There are many people like me who are pro choice but not pro abortion.
    Yeah, I'm pro-choice AND pro-abortion.

    I think every woman should have one, whether they want it or not.

    :lol::lol: Pro-abortion is a term usually coined by those that do not want to see legal abortion at any cost (definitely anti-abortion) to sort of 'demonise' the 'pro-choice' people (as are pro-death, baby killer, etc). Emotive and political agendas. Pro-choice already covers the acceptance of abortion but does not mean that one automatically has to condone it nor find it acceptable for themselves. One can be pro-choice, respecting the freedom of others (similar to free speech) but would, under no circumstances have an abortion themselves as it doesn't fit in with their beliefs/ethics, etc. But some are also confused about the whole affair - anti-abortion but if I find myself in a 'situation', would rather have something done safely... Pro-choice but to a point... but what point? I don't really think that anyone in their right mind is 'pro-abortion' but rather have an acceptance of it (like many medical interventions)
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    what about sloths...do sloths kill there offspring...? I hope not


    they do a lot more than that!

    they are not to be trusted in anyway

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/17201


    :lol::lol::lol: the appearance of Sloth at the end was unexpected Joy!
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    BinauralJam wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    what about sloths...do sloths kill there offspring...? I hope not


    they do a lot more than that!

    they are not to be trusted in anyway

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/17201


    :lol::lol::lol: the appearance of Sloth at the end was unexpected Joy!

    Unfortunately video can only be watched in the US :(
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    redrock wrote:
    Unfortunately video can only be watched in the US :(

    :evil: i looked for it on you tube, but it's not there.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    BinauralJam wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    Unfortunately video can only be watched in the US :(

    :evil: i looked for it on you tube, but it's not there.

    But I love sloths.. Does it actually have anything to do with sloths (being SNL)? :?

    OK.. just tweaked my PC :mrgreen:

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