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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?

    I am guessing we will find out. Asking for spoilers is akin to posting spoilers. ;)
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  • catefrances
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    rearviewross wrote:
    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?

    I am guessing we will find out. Asking for spoilers is akin to posting spoilers. ;)

    yeah we could tell you but then wed have to kill you. ;)8-)
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  • PearlJamaholic
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    rearviewross wrote:
    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?

    I am guessing we will find out. Asking for spoilers is akin to posting spoilers. ;)

    i dont even remember it from the book so whatever it is about will be new to me again!
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  • Dr. Delight
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    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?
    With all the other shit going on, a couple of dead male babies in a jar are the least of my concerns.
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  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    rearviewross wrote:
    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?

    I am guessing we will find out. Asking for spoilers is akin to posting spoilers. ;)

    sorry about that.. i just meant, are there babies in jars anywhere in there or is that just something they did in the show.. not asking for the storyline or anything..

    but it's good to know you're staying strong under pressure and not spoiling.. :)
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    Yarden wrote:
    rearviewross wrote:
    Yarden wrote:
    what was the deal with Stannis' wife and the dead babies? is that somewhere in the books?

    I am guessing we will find out. Asking for spoilers is akin to posting spoilers. ;)

    sorry about that.. i just meant, are there babies in jars anywhere in there or is that just something they did in the show.. not asking for the storyline or anything..

    but it's good to know you're staying strong under pressure and not spoiling.. :)
    I'm fairly sure it was mentioned either in season two or this one that Selyse has not been able to produce a male heir for stannis. I seem to remember him telling Melisandra he wants the son his wife can not give him. Those are her babies. She kept them and named them :? wtf

    The babies in jars are not in the books funny story about that
    Bryan Cogman who wrote this episode and in my opinion outside of when GRRM does the writing keeps to the books the best out of all of them. He really loves the books and gets the true spirit.

    He said he woke up one night and the idea that Selyse would keep the still born sons in jars came to him. He wrote the idea down and his wife was like what are you doing. So he asked do you think stillborn babies in jars is too our there for HBO. She said just put it in and they will cut it when they edit it.

    He got the final cut and was amazed they went with it since he totally just threw it in expecting them to cut it.

    It does help to show that Selyse's elevator does not go to the top floor and she is a bit out there. Perhaps part of the reason Stannis does not like spending time with her.
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  • Yarden
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    thanks! that's very interesting. i have noticed that the episodes he writes try to adhere to the books as much as possible although the creators have a final say.
    the jars thing was just wierd to watch. does it make sense for that to happen in a world that's like the middle ages?
    also, it reminded me a bit of the governor in the walking dead..
  • intodeep
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    agree i thought of walking dead too and i'm not so sure about how much sense it makes.
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Yarden wrote:
    thanks! that's very interesting. i have noticed that the episodes he writes try to adhere to the books as much as possible although the creators have a final say.
    the jars thing was just wierd to watch. does it make sense for that to happen in a world that's like the middle ages?
    also, it reminded me a bit of the governor in the walking dead..

    I thought of that too but they do have Wild Fire so I suppose they could have formaldehyde.

    Speaking of Walking Dead, Cubeegirl posted this on the Walking Dead thread. Its pretty damn funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR4lLJu_-wE

    Staying on topic though, his wife does seem pretty nutso. She cried with joy when she found out he slept with the fire witch? Tiger Woods should have married her.
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  • intodeep
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    lol seriously Stannis had to be like um okay not the reaction i expected.
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  • DewieCox
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    intodeep wrote:
    lol seriously Stannis had to be like um okay not the reaction i expected.

    Yeah, but maybe his wife would've been more upset if she thought he was gonna get any more Red Woman action.
  • Yarden
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  • ldent42
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    :o Littlefinger is a little shit!
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  • DewieCox
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    Jesus!!!! It just keeps getting better.
  • intodeep
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    I thought this was the weakest of the season so far, but my standards are high. With them splitting Storm of Swords into two seasons I kind of figured we'd get a couple episodes like this. Just moving people into place.

    Love the Jon/Ygritte scenes. Probably my favorite from this episode.

    I liked the Vary's/Littlefinger i'm here for the realm/i'm here to create chaos. I thought that was the most honest each of them could be about their purposes. Perhaps a little too honest IMHO but whatever.

    That is a fancy knife sam has :geek:

    Tywin and Olenna going at it.. PURE LANNISTER GOLD.

    I am okay with Gendry I'll pull up the book thread to voice my complaints since it would not make sense here.

    Melisandra to Arya.... we will meet again :o ???
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  • Better Dan
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    Another episode I really enjoyed. From reading the description, I was a bit disappointed it didn't look like we would be getting any Dany scenes but there was so much good stuff going on that I didn't miss her at all. The Tywin scene was great as always, as was finding out who really tried to have Tyrion killed. The Littlefinger scene / monologue was also a highlight. Every time I see him on screen, I think back to his words in season 1 "I fuck them." I also loved seeing the scale of the wall.

    I just have two questions: I don't think the show has been too clear on why they are going to the other side of the wall? Is it to escape the white walkers or to invade? I do remember the king of the north saying that he got all the wildlings together by saying they would all die, but is there more to it? Where did he and the other wildlings go? Also, is that Lord Bolton who has Jamie? If so, it seems like he is willing to betray Robb by letting Jamie go. Is there a reason for this beyond the gold?

    Only real complaint is the Theon scene. Nothing really wrong with it, but I really don't like that they are dragging it out all season long. There was really nothing learned there (again) and I felt like the time could have been used on something better. I also would have liked to have seen Tyrion break the news to Sansa.
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  • intodeep
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    Better Dan wrote:
    Another episode I really enjoyed. From reading the description, I was a bit disappointed it didn't look like we would be getting any Dany scenes but there was so much good stuff going on that I didn't miss her at all. The Tywin scene was great as always, as was finding out who really tried to have Tyrion killed. The Littlefinger scene / monologue was also a highlight. Every time I see him on screen, I think back to his words in season 1 "I fuck them." I also loved seeing the scale of the wall.

    I just have two questions: I don't think the show has been too clear on why they are going to the other side of the wall? Is it to escape the white walkers or to invade? I do remember the king of the north saying that he got all the wildlings together by saying they would all die, but is there more to it? Where did he and the other wildlings go? Also, is that Lord Bolton who has Jamie? If so, it seems like he is willing to betray Robb by letting Jamie go. Is there a reason for this beyond the gold?

    Only real complaint is the Theon scene. Nothing really wrong with it, but I really don't like that they are dragging it out all season long. There was really nothing learned there (again) and I felt like the time could have been used on something better. I also would have liked to have seen Tyrion break the news to Sansa.

    That is Lord Bolton that has Jaime Lannister. I have no further comment on your question not spoiling anything

    You are right we don't know much about why they are going to the wall because in the show they have not revealed more then you have expressed. Part of that is them not trusting jon completly with their plans. so again i'll keep my mouth shut.
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  • Enkidu
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    Who was the dead chick in the end? I read the books and maybe I was tired last night, but that was confusing.

    WAY too much Theon torture. But I felt that way in the book.

    Agree about JonSnow (I love the way Ygritte says his name) and Ygritte scenes being the best.
  • pjsteelerfan
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    Enkidu wrote:
    Who was the dead chick in the end? I read the books and maybe I was tired last night, but that was confusing.

    WAY too much Theon torture. But I felt that way in the book.

    Agree about JonSnow (I love the way Ygritte says his name) and Ygritte scenes being the best.

    The dead woman was Ros, the red haired woman from the last two seasons that was with Littlefinger and was informing Varys what he was doing. Littlefinger handed her over to Joffery.
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  • DewieCox
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    Enkidu wrote:
    Who was the dead chick in the end? I read the books and maybe I was tired last night, but that was confusing.

    WAY too much Theon torture. But I felt that way in the book.

    Agree about JonSnow (I love the way Ygritte says his name) and Ygritte scenes being the best.

    That was the prostitute, Ros. I honestly think it had as much to do with Tyrion as it did Baelish getting rid of one of Varys' spiders.

    To me the Theon torture seems like too much b/c we don't see him for a few weeks then when we do, we expect the storyline to move forward. I wonder if they were trying to make the connection between him and Roose Bolton a little more obvious, with the contraption that Theon is strapped to and the X sigil in the background at Bolton's camp.


    I just thought this was a fantastic episode. Reading alot of mixed feelings about it. I think the story, the small hints and the way it all unfolds is the big draw to the story. Out of the last 3 weeks, I feel like this one moved the most story lines towards some resolution and the next steps the best.

    The only real gripe is the end scene with Jon and Ygritte seemed a little cheesy. Then again I haven't read the books so maybe it mirrored those pretty closely. It just felt a little out of line with the way most episodes end.

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