Arizona mulls transgender washroom use

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    huh. I didn't know you were so close minded.
    im not close minded in the least

    how can I become a female by having my manhood removed & my breasts grown? how can a female become truly a male with sperm? if my penis is removed how in the world am I truly a female? im not & she or he aint what they believe they are after either
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    huh. I didn't know you were so close minded.
    im not close minded in the least

    how can I become a female by having my manhood removed & my breasts grown? how can a female become truly a male with sperm? if my penis is removed how in the world am I truly a female? im not & she or he aint what they believe they are after either
    Because if you were actually transgendered, you WOULD be a female... in a man's body. They TRULY feel that is the case. They are NOT men trying to become women. They are women trying to get the correct body (or vice versa). They feel not that they were born the wrong gender, but that they were born with the wrong body.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    huh. I didn't know you were so close minded.
    im not close minded in the least

    how can I become a female by having my manhood removed & my breasts grown? how can a female become truly a male with sperm? if my penis is removed how in the world am I truly a female? im not & she or he aint what they believe they are after either
    Because if you were actually transgendered, you WOULD be a female... in a man's body. They TRULY feel that is the case. They are NOT men trying to become women. They are women trying to get the correct body (or vice versa). They feel not that they were born the wrong gender, but that they were born with the wrong body.
    I know what they believe & feel
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    a female human has reproductive organs that create a baby when sperm is present. a male's reproductive organs create sperm to fertilize a female's egg. this is the difference between males & females. when women get older they don't produce eggs for a man to put his sperm into. men are very capable of creating sperm their whole lives.

    females typically give birth at or around 9 month after the child inside of them is ready to come out & say hello.
    :lol:
    It's just a washroom, not a delivery room. :lol:
    someone asked to define men & women & catefrances did not approve of my previous statement.

    this here is the exact truth of the matter.

    women are capable of child birth. men give their sperm to the female's egg to make a baby.
    men & women
    females & males

    this is the difference

    as well as some females breast feed the child

    i guess I will have to say the same thing i said before. there are people born with both female and male body parts. are they a man or a female.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    im not close minded in the least

    how can I become a female by having my manhood removed & my breasts grown? how can a female become truly a male with sperm? if my penis is removed how in the world am I truly a female? im not & she or he aint what they believe they are after either
    Because if you were actually transgendered, you WOULD be a female... in a man's body. They TRULY feel that is the case. They are NOT men trying to become women. They are women trying to get the correct body (or vice versa). They feel not that they were born the wrong gender, but that they were born with the wrong body.
    I know what they believe & feel
    Oh, okay. You don't act like it, so I thought you didn't.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    a female human has reproductive organs that create a baby when sperm is present. a male's reproductive organs create sperm to fertilize a female's egg. this is the difference between males & females. when women get older they don't produce eggs for a man to put his sperm into. men are very capable of creating sperm their whole lives.

    females typically give birth at or around 9 month after the child inside of them is ready to come out & say hello.
    :lol:
    It's just a washroom, not a delivery room. :lol:
    someone asked to define men & women & catefrances did not approve of my previous statement.

    this here is the exact truth of the matter.

    women are capable of child birth. men give their sperm to the female's egg to make a baby.
    men & women
    females & males

    this is the difference

    as well as some females breast feed the child

    i didnt approve cause you were crapping on about vikings and fucking and cows. not to mention you define a woman as having a vagina. not ALL woman have a vagina. so does that mean those women who arent born with a vagina(previously mentioned as vaginal agenesis), not women? and just so you know not ALL women are capable of reproducing(neither are all men).. so again, not a good determinant of a woman
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    of course we all don't have sperm or eggs. you folks drive a hard bargaining debate sorta thing. again, difficult to get along in this world or the 10c

    so please feel free to define a female & a male, catefrance & pj soul
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  • catefrances
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    chadwick wrote:
    of course we all don't have sperm or eggs. you folks drive a hard bargaining debate sorta thing. again, difficult to get along in this world or the 10c

    so please feel free to define a female & a male, catefrance & pj soul


    who said anything about us all not having eggs or sperm? or that being a determinant of sex?

    youve missed the point which is defining male and female isnt as simple as saying girls have a vagina and boys have a penis.. because(yet again) as previously stated not all females are born with a vagina. so i ask you(again) are females born without a vagina, females?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04 ... stroom-use

    Idaho transgender person being banned from store where he stood to urinate in a women's restroom. I thought you said you felt like a woman tapped in a dude's body... sit your butt down
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    chadwick wrote:
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/13/17733363-transgender-woman-banned-from-idaho-grocery-store-over-restroom-use

    Idaho transgender person being banned from store where he stood to urinate in a women's restroom. I thought you said you felt like a woman tapped in a dude's body... sit your butt down
    Clearly you have no idea how many women try to stand and pee. That's why there is always piss all over the toilet seats in the ladies washroom. :x In any case, are any of these fucking chicks who try to do this getting banned from stores?? Because I would really like it if that became a law or something!! If they could all do it as neatly as this transgendered person surely did, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Give me a standing transgendered in the women's washroom over half the hetero women in there any day!!!
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Clearly you have no idea how many women try to stand and pee. That's why there is always piss all over the toilet seats in the ladies washroom. :x In any case, are any of these fucking chicks who try to do this getting banned from stores?? Because I would really like it if that became a law or something!! If they could all do it as neatly as this transgendered person surely did, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Give me a standing transgendered in the women's washroom over half the hetero women in there any day!!!
    That is the "hover your butt over the toilet and pee without said butt actually touching the seat" move! Only time I've peed while actually standing up is in the shower :mrgreen:

    The banning thing is crazy - and don't most women's restrooms have closed off stalls? How are people even paying attention to this shit?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited April 2013
    hedonist wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Clearly you have no idea how many women try to stand and pee. That's why there is always piss all over the toilet seats in the ladies washroom. :x In any case, are any of these fucking chicks who try to do this getting banned from stores?? Because I would really like it if that became a law or something!! If they could all do it as neatly as this transgendered person surely did, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Give me a standing transgendered in the women's washroom over half the hetero women in there any day!!!
    That is the "hover your butt over the toilet and pee without said butt actually touching the seat" move! Only time I've peed while actually standing up is in the shower :mrgreen:

    The banning thing is crazy - and don't most women's restrooms have closed off stalls? How are people even paying attention to this shit?
    :lol: Anyone who admits to peeing in the shower is alright in my books. :thumbup: :lol: I've always found this to be close to the masturbation question ... anyone who says they never do it is lying. :lol::lol:
    I suppose some bitch noticed that her feet were facing the wrong way while in the stall next to her. I just can't believe anyone would be such a rotten human being as to complain.
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  • cincybearcat
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    edited April 2013
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    :lol: Anyone who admits to peeing in the shower is alright in my books. :thumbup: :lol: I've always found this to be close to the masturbation question ... anyone who says they never do it are lying. :lol::lol:
    I suppose some bitch noticed that her feet were facing the wrong way while in the stall next to her. I just can't believe anyone would be such a rotten human being as to complain.

    I'd bet the sound gave it away before the feet.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    cincybearcat wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    :lol: Anyone who admits to peeing in the shower is alright in my books. :thumbup: :lol: I've always found this to be close to the masturbation question ... anyone who says they never do it are lying. :lol::lol:
    I suppose some bitch noticed that her feet were facing the wrong way while in the stall next to her. I just can't believe anyone would be such a rotten human being as to complain.

    I'm better the sound gave it away before the feet.
    Perhaps. :think:
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    hover or sit is what women do. women do not grab a sausage wand & urinate out of it as if painting up a storm & tap dancing a jig in some restroom stall as onlookers lift their noses in disgust
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    chadwick wrote:
    hover or sit is what women do. women do not grab a sausage wand & urinate out of it as if painting up a storm & tap dancing a jig in some restroom stall as onlookers lift their noses in disgust
    Who cares?? I don't know why you find this so objectionable (or why you are assuming she was peeing all over the walls???). No one could even see her. Stalls have doors in women's washrooms. And do you hate penises? It sounds like you do. :? I like you Chadwick - I am just confused about your position when it comes to transgendered people. It seems very rigid, which isn't like you I didn't think ... no pun intended. :lol:
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    I have rigid qualities. that is true.

    in this story I just shared. a man uses the lady's restroom because he fully believes he is a she. so he urinates standing over the toilet. many have seen him do this while he demands he is a woman trapped in a man's body. ok.... good... sit yourself down to relieve your bladder. you say you're a girl, girl go hovering or fully sitting. the 3% that urinate standing fully erect like a male are drunk women sailors from a far off land where they arm wrestle, log, & wrestle big things & urinate standing perfectly still all upright as if a tree or a building or a pole
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    chadwick wrote:
    hover or sit is what women do. women do not grab a sausage wand & urinate out of it as if painting up a storm & tap dancing a jig in some restroom stall as onlookers lift their noses in disgust

    how do you know she was not hovering. how does the guard know she was not hovering. what this looks like to me is some guy who didn't like trans woman felt that he needed to prove a point.

    i personally have never seen a woman washroom which didn't have stalls so how was anyone complain about what they saw when the fact is they didn't see anything.

    and Chadwick i will ask you for a 3 rd time. where should people who have both male and female parts go to the washroom?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    fife wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    hover or sit is what women do. women do not grab a sausage wand & urinate out of it as if painting up a storm & tap dancing a jig in some restroom stall as onlookers lift their noses in disgust

    how do you know she was not hovering. how does the guard know she was not hovering. what this looks like to me is some guy who didn't like trans woman felt that he needed to prove a point.

    i personally have never seen a woman washroom which didn't have stalls so how was anyone complain about what they saw when the fact is they didn't see anything.

    and Chadwick i will ask you for a 3 rd time. where should people who have both male and female parts go to the washroom?
    they should go to the restroom in the same place as everyone else does, in a toilet or like the pope does, out in the woods
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
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    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    chadwick wrote:
    fife wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    hover or sit is what women do. women do not grab a sausage wand & urinate out of it as if painting up a storm & tap dancing a jig in some restroom stall as onlookers lift their noses in disgust

    how do you know she was not hovering. how does the guard know she was not hovering. what this looks like to me is some guy who didn't like trans woman felt that he needed to prove a point.

    i personally have never seen a woman washroom which didn't have stalls so how was anyone complain about what they saw when the fact is they didn't see anything.

    and Chadwick i will ask you for a 3 rd time. where should people who have both male and female parts go to the washroom?
    they should go to the restroom in the same place as everyone else does, in a toilet or like the pope does, out in the woods

    should they go to a woman washroom or a mens washroom?

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