Arizona mulls transgender washroom use

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I am pretty sure you can fairly easily find some females willing to help you... for a price. ;)
    PJ_Soul .... you may be on to something ...

    :think:

    Just need to find an alter ego ....

    :o

    I GOT IT!

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    may transgender people use a clothesline visable or not to anyone?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    chadwick wrote:
    may transgender people use a clothesline visable or not to anyone?
    Depends on the city bylaws where they live. :)
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    chadwick wrote:
    may transgender people use a clothesline visable or not to anyone?
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  • They're afraid people will expose themselves to children.

    Is there no law against that already?

    They have to punish the whole transgender community because men occasionally flash little girls?

    Ok.

    Nobody said Arizona is a place for smart people.
  • chadwick wrote:
    leaving it up to the police officers means exactly that. which mean nothing will happen to anyone unless something like blood or guts were spilled.

    Because policemen never abuse their power or get a kick out of harassing people.
  • So I'm a dude who is lost in my own body and think I'm a chick, so I dress like a chick, but, have to go to the men's washroom, and that somehow is not going to make people uncomfortable.

    So I'm a chick who is lost in my own body and think I'm a dude, so I dress like a dude, but, have to go to the women's washroom, and that somehow is not going to make people uncomfortable.

    Glad to see they thought this one through.

    "Sorry sir, we know you are transgendered, but can you drop the women's gear before you go into the men's bathroom and when you are done, you can dress back up and carry on." I think this is how they should word this new law.

    Get over the hang up people. Travel to Europe and see what life can really be like. One bathroom for a whole club. Guys, girls, trannys, cross dressers, dogs, cats, moms, dads, children, etc.....

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    edited March 2013
    I always hear how America needs to be more like Europe ... then I watch a FIFA football game and the fans are chucking bananas at players with darker skin and players doing Nazi salutes after scoring goals.

    But they have bathrooms figured out?

    Which is it?
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    I don't really understand the issue. I mean don't women's washroom have enclosed stalls. So even if a transgender woman went into went into one it is not like she would be able to see anyone else using the washroom. And it is not like anyone would be able to figure out that she was not born a woman, since she would be using an enclosed stall. Plus if this person identified as a woman, why do people think she would want to check out other women using the washroom?

    People in general seem way to freaked out about the idea that other people are going check them out naked/changing/using the washroom. To me it seems that people must think very highly of themselves to assume that other people want to see them naked.
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,547
    chadwick wrote:
    "In an ongoing case, a Colorado family has filed a complaint against the state after their six-year-old, who was born a boy, was banned from using the girl's bathroom at her primary school."

    say what?

    I saw this on the news a few weeks back. The dad said that the son mentioned that his favorite colors were pink and purple so they assumed something must be going on....... :fp:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    "In an ongoing case, a Colorado family has filed a complaint against the state after their six-year-old, who was born a boy, was banned from using the girl's bathroom at her primary school."

    say what?

    I saw this on the news a few weeks back. The dad said that the son mentioned that his favorite colors were pink and purple so they assumed something must be going on....... :fp:
    i like pink & i like purple. i own and wear in the cold a purple ass scarf with another scarf that is yellow & white. pink is yummy & i enjoy pink's warmth & inviting nature.

    this kid's dad & mom should maybe be slapped around with a rake or tree limb
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    leaving it up to the police officers means exactly that. which mean nothing will happen to anyone unless something like blood or guts were spilled.

    Because policemen never abuse their power or get a kick out of harassing people.
    true they do. but that % is probably rather low, yes?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    may transgender people use a clothesline visable or not to anyone?
    utimate-warrior-vs-hulk-hogan-clothesline-each-other-pictures.jpg
    i always kinda knew those two were up to something. bulky sweaty men all over each other dressed up with fancy string & yellow tall boots. clotheslines are what hulk believes in.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    leaving it up to the police officers means exactly that. which mean nothing will happen to anyone unless something like blood or guts were spilled.

    Because policemen never abuse their power or get a kick out of harassing people.
    true they do. but that % is probably rather low, yes?
    NO!! Are you serious? It happens A LOT.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ya every cop in the world cannot wait to abuse transgender people. i'd imagine most cops would protect them & try to keep the peace. the cops in my little iowa town would not use their authority to bully & abuse a man in a dress who believes he is a girl. they would try & protect him/her from nasty ass society
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    chadwick wrote:
    ya every cop in the world cannot wait to abuse transgender people. i'd imagine most cops would protect them & try to keep the peace. the cops in my little iowa town would not use their authority to bully & abuse a man in a dress who believes he is a girl. they would try & protect him/her from nasty ass society
    Really? In my town, 4 cops took a gay dude to a park and beat the shit out of him. :|
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    ya every cop in the world cannot wait to abuse transgender people. i'd imagine most cops would protect them & try to keep the peace. the cops in my little iowa town would not use their authority to bully & abuse a man in a dress who believes he is a girl. they would try & protect him/her from nasty ass society
    Really? In my town, 4 cops took a gay dude to a park and beat the shit out of him. :|
    have you ever stepped back, took a breath & viewed vancouver for two seconds? y'all aren't much milder/safer or worse than L.A. chicago or nyc. y'all have a drug epidemic up there with heroin & things like asian prostitution slavery rings & asian gangs shooting up the place.

    there is more to the story. four cops just don't decide to go capture a dude take him to a park & beat the hell out of him because he is gay. i do not buy that horse shit for a minute. what is left out of the story?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    chadwick wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    ya every cop in the world cannot wait to abuse transgender people. i'd imagine most cops would protect them & try to keep the peace. the cops in my little iowa town would not use their authority to bully & abuse a man in a dress who believes he is a girl. they would try & protect him/her from nasty ass society
    Really? In my town, 4 cops took a gay dude to a park and beat the shit out of him. :|
    have you ever stepped back, took a breath & viewed vancouver for two seconds? y'all aren't much milder/safer or worse than L.A. chicago or nyc. y'all have a drug epidemic up there with heroin & things like asian prostitution slavery rings & asian gangs shooting up the place.

    there is more to the story. four cops just don't decide to go capture a dude take him to a park & beat the hell out of him because he is gay. i do not buy that horse shit for a minute. what is left out of the story?
    You seem really angry with me these days Chadwick. ;) And I'm not sure why you're asking if I know what my own city is like. I am way more aware than you are about the crime issues that we have. I wasn't making a comparison with your little town. I was simply making the point that cops can't necessarily be trusted to do the right thing (especially in large cities, and especially in Vancouver). But I'm not sure what your point is anyway - is it that cops can only be trusted when there isn't a high crime rate?? I would actually think that there are some small town cops who would be less accepting of transgenereds than those in major cities.

    Actually, I personally KNOW one of the cops who did that (they all went to trial and were found guilty). He was a friend of my ex boyfriend's. And yes, four cops just decided to take a guy from downtown (he was known to police but not breaking the law at the time), and took him to the park and beat the hell out of him. It was simply a macho, group mentality thing. That is ALL that is part of the story. I wasn't THAT surprised when the guy I know ended up being one of them though (surprised he was that stupid, but not that he went aggro). I went paint balling with him once while he was in training, and he wore full police riot gear for it and went crazy. :fp:

    And there are SO many other stories from our police force that would blow your mind (if you respected me enough to believe me, that is).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    yep that's me i am angry with you, pj_soul. wrong. confused 9/10 of the time but far from angry. mom's from the norse lands. if i were angry w/ you i'd be slinging axes & hammers in your general direction.






    wait...
    you're a woman. vikings like women. women think we smell good.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick wrote:
    ya every cop in the world cannot wait to abuse transgender people. i'd imagine most cops would protect them & try to keep the peace.

    Sadly, you'd be wrong.