i agree...you can put 10 shows..but when the lottery happens,and you win 2 that you can afford ,stops there for u,and if your name win a 3rd show,they cancel it for u and draw another member.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
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i agree...you can put 10 shows..but when the lottery happens,and you win 2 that you can afford ,stops there for u,and if your name win a 3rd show,they cancel it for u and draw another member.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
Great idea
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i agree...you can put 10 shows..but when the lottery happens,and you win 2 that you can afford ,stops there for u,and if your name win a 3rd show,they cancel it for u and draw another member.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
Yeah, I agree with this. There is a big secondary market for the tickets (hopefully through other members) - you can round out your travel plans with those.
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maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
We should remember too that MOST members don`t travel around to a bunch of shows and make a big trip of it. I should think that most members just go to the show that is in or closest to their city, and maybe one in the next city over. I guess the system should be what works best for the majority, not the minority of super-fans.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
i agree...you can put 10 shows..but when the lottery happens,and you win 2 that you can afford ,stops there for u,and if your name win a 3rd show,they cancel it for u and draw another member.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I agree, giving a day to cancel shows might be a good way to do it, but that might cause a headache, and other members may miss out due to everyone putting down for all the shows then cancelling them... I think blocks / regions / whatever would be easier. Also less strain on the servers, and it would be easier to fix any problems that arise (you know they will ), and no one could cancel.
An audible for this may be being able to transfer 1 pair of tickets to another member or something, but that's dangerous territory.
As for getting tix in the secondary market, though it's very easy to do, why am I a 10C member then? The main reason I'm one is for tickets!
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
We should remember too that MOST members don`t travel around to a bunch of shows and make a big trip of it. I should think that most members just go to the show that is in or closest to their city, and maybe one in the next city over. I guess the system should be what works best for the majority, not the minority of super-fans.
Very good point.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
Yeah but the if I get shut out of those 2 shows than i'm out of luck. If someone wants to put their name in for every show to guarantee they get fan club tickets to at least 1 show ... there is nothing wrong with that. The general sale tickets for most venues suck. If I don't get fan club seats I don't go. Not after I spent both 2003 MSG shows all the way up top behind the stage where it sounded like I was hearing the show from inside a washing machine. I'm not one of those guys who said "at least I'm in the building". I'm 10-c or nothing.
I agree, giving a day to cancel shows might be a good way to do it, but that might cause a headache, and other members may miss out due to everyone putting down for all the shows then cancelling them... I think blocks / regions / whatever would be easier. Also less strain on the servers, and it would be easier to fix any problems that arise (you know they will ), and no one could cancel.
An audible for this may be being able to transfer 1 pair of tickets to another member or something, but that's dangerous territory.
As for getting tix in the secondary market, though it's very easy to do, why am I a 10C member then? The main reason I'm one is for tickets!
No on the transfer. That's a terrible idea. It's like life - shit happens.
There's also no need (necessarily) to go to a 2ndary market. There's the general sale. I know - the horror!!!
If you don't want to be a member, don't. (I know that's not what you said, but that's my pat response when folks even allude to that possibility).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
We should remember too that MOST members don`t travel around to a bunch of shows and make a trip of it. I should think that most members just go to the show that is in or closest to their city, and maybe one in the next city over. I guess the system should be what works best for the majority, not the minority of super-fans.
You are right. I'm glad I don't have to develop this new system. It must be a pain in the ass to us lot happy :fp:
Well, and of course I would only select the shows I possibly could do. But if I don't know for sure if I get the tickets I want, I might stretch my doable area a bit more ...
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Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
100% in favor of the lottery but also in favor of this. I understand scheduling conundrums some may face but you don't need 10C tickets to go to a show. Enter for shows you know you can attend and then fill in the blanks with other tickets. The view from the balcony will not kill you.
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
Yeah but the if I get shut out of those 2 shows than i'm out of luck. If someone wants to put their name in for every show to guarantee they get fan club tickets to at least 1 show ... there is nothing wrong with that. The general sale tickets for most venues suck. If I don't get fan club seats I don't go. Not after I spent both 2003 MSG shows all the way up top behind the stage where it sounded like I was hearing the show from inside a washing machine. I'm not one of those guys who said "at least I'm in the building". I'm 10-c or nothing.
Well, look forward to nothing. I don't think it's fair to do the 15 shows and pick 1 after you get them all. As is, places like NYC just got 10 times harder to get. If I get all 4 shows in the area, I think I'll live.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Very good point, maybe they could do the shows in blocks - like regions. For example I could do a few of the North east shows or south east shows, but not both. It would be very difficult to choose all at once.
Still better than it was before I think.
sure,i agree,better than before..
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I agree, giving a day to cancel shows might be a good way to do it, but that might cause a headache, and other members may miss out due to everyone putting down for all the shows then cancelling them... I think blocks / regions / whatever would be easier. Also less strain on the servers, and it would be easier to fix any problems that arise (you know they will ), and no one could cancel.
An audible for this may be being able to transfer 1 pair of tickets to another member or something, but that's dangerous territory.
As for getting tix in the secondary market, though it's very easy to do, why am I a 10C member then? The main reason I'm one is for tickets!
Yes, of course getting club tickets is a main reason to be a member. But they are trying to make a system that allows more people to attend a show. Not to attend 5 shows within a 300 mile radius. I'm just saying that this is when finding ticket buddies should come into play instead of expecting 10C to somehow make it possible that a small number of people get a bunch of tickets straight from them to shows that they can travel to. 10C wants to have as many people as possible experience a show. Period. Not to ensure that the same 500 people can see as many shows as they can get to.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
the problem at europe ,same at states i guess,is the distance..
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
the problem at europe ,same at states i guess,is the distance..
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
100% in favor of the lottery but also in favor of this. I understand scheduling conundrums some may face but you don't need 10C tickets to go to a show. Enter for shows you know you can attend and then fill in the blanks with other tickets. The view from the balcony will not kill you.
i was gonna just post this too..
nbo 10c tickets doesnt mean you will not be at the show./..you can always find spares or tix in the market
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
the problem at europe ,same at states i guess,is the distance..
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
Not trying to diminish the point. I hear you, but how about more folks get access to the alotted tickets rather than folks "hording" them, then throwing them back at their discretion?
Life is full of decisions. And poor me if I need a pair and they're not 10C :shock: Maybe, someone else gets to go instead of me.
Again, I will reiterate what I've said a million times - they should just price their tickets appropriately, and we wouldn't have to worry about this.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
There is good and bad with this system- just like any other system- nothing is going to be perfect, and not every one is going to be pleased. They give options to choose your preference. Everyone knows the hardest tickets are going to be the northeast, and specifically NYC, Philly and Boston. Some other cities will be hard as well, Seattle, LA, Chicago, etc. Use common sense going in knowing this and your chances of getting tickets for these shows will be hardest. Also, look at the dates and the locations. There will probably be a whole week you can look at your options. Other places probably won't be as hard to get tickets. I think this will really only work if they announce all shows at once, but that may be difficult seeing PJ only plays 11-12 shows at a time. Or at least announce more shows will be on sale later in a different part of the country so people can at least know they don;t have to fly cross country if there is a west coast or southern tour on the horizon.
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How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
the problem at europe ,same at states i guess,is the distance..
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
Not trying to diminish the point. I hear you, but how about more folks get access to the alotted tickets rather than folks "hording" them, then throwing them back at their discretion?
Life is full of decisions. And poor me if I need a pair and they're not 10C :shock: Maybe, someone else gets to go instead of me.
Again, I will reiterate what I've said a million times - they should just price their tickets appropriately, and we wouldn't have to worry about this.
i understand that..its a conversation about how the new system will work..
that ugly,crazy f5 frikkin thing,needed to be end..good they find a better solution
i believe they will continue to work in that direction,so they will find the better possible solution
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
There is good and bad with this system- just like any other system- nothing is going to be perfect, and not every one is going to be pleased. They give options to choose your preference. Everyone knows the hardest tickets are going to be the northeast, and specifically NYC, Philly and Boston. Some other cities will be hard as well, Seattle, LA, Chicago, etc. Use common sense going in knowing this and your chances of getting tickets for these shows will be hardest. Also, look at the dates and the locations. There will probably be a whole week you can look at your options. Other places probably won't be as hard to get tickets. I think this will really only work if they announce all shows at once, but that may be difficult seeing PJ only plays 11-12 shows at a time. Or at least announce more shows will be on sale later in a different part of the country so people can at least know they don;t have to fly cross country if there is a west coast or southern tour on the horizon.
i agree with all..
and really,if someone want to see 11-12 times,there are spares out there,and other than fan club tix..
if u dont score to all shows that you want,doesnt mean you cant go to the show
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
Yeah but the if I get shut out of those 2 shows than i'm out of luck. If someone wants to put their name in for every show to guarantee they get fan club tickets to at least 1 show ... there is nothing wrong with that. The general sale tickets for most venues suck. If I don't get fan club seats I don't go. Not after I spent both 2003 MSG shows all the way up top behind the stage where it sounded like I was hearing the show from inside a washing machine. I'm not one of those guys who said "at least I'm in the building". I'm 10-c or nothing.
Well, look forward to nothing. I don't think it's fair to do the 15 shows and pick 1 after you get them all. As is, places like NYC just got 10 times harder to get. If I get all 4 shows in the area, I think I'll live.
No one is saying that though... where are you getting this from? If you select a max of 1 show... and pick all 15 shows in priority order... then you will only get selected for one show. You don't get tickets for all 15 and then get to pick and choose. The system randomly picks people. If your name was drawn for your 4th 8th and 12th choice show... and you have a max set to 1.. you'll get your forth choice and the other 3 will be given to someone else. We are talking about improving the system.. your replies of "that's life" are not constructive.
If you select a max of 1 show... and pick all 15 shows in priority order... then you will only get selected for one show. You don't get tickets for all 15 and then get to pick and choose. The system randomly picks people. If your name was drawn for your 4th 8th and 12th choice show... and you have a max set to 1.. you'll get your forth choice and the other 3 will be given to someone else.
ok,in better english,that i was trying to say!..great idea.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Thinking a little more about it PJ hasn't done a FULL tour since when, 03, they've pretty much done short 10-15 show runs. Unless they decide to do a major tour choosing a few shows won't be a problem. Now if they do a 72 show run and do all the tickets at once it might get tricky for the die hard tour ppl. However they might release shows in blocks anyway, which is what they usually did back then. I remember they did it for Canada 05 and the 06 tour as well.
What I'm trying to say is that choosing multiple shows might not be as big a deal as we're making it out to be. Either way, I'll see you at a show (at least 1)
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
If you select a max of 1 show... and pick all 15 shows in priority order... then you will only get selected for one show. You don't get tickets for all 15 and then get to pick and choose. The system randomly picks people. If your name was drawn for your 4th 8th and 12th choice show... and you have a max set to 1.. you'll get your forth choice and the other 3 will be given to someone else.
ok,in better english,that i was trying to say!..great idea.
I really like this as well. (Sounds like it might be tough for a programmer though. This is also a backup to make sure someone who wants to go to at least one show doesn't get shut out (especially if they only put in for NY). Also ensures 10C sells another set of tickets.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
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But i do wish I bought two :fp:
i think 10c test is brilliant idea cos they will see how its going..
same i think that why they put 2 types of tour(ed-pj) and only 4 shows..
to chack the balance of it..
i believe if they add the option,to a tour,after you choose lets say 8 shows,that i choose 8 but my limit is 3 and if draw 3 stops there,then all will work fine..
and same as areas..regions..
for exabvle in europe,every 2 days they changing countriy they playing..
if they do 10 different countries,i enter to and i win 2 times at lottery,the 1st and the last of the tour,
will be 20 days atleast the difference between my first and second show and the distance between those 2 countries huge,and ill not be able to do both shows..
maybe is a good idea,after the draw finnish..give you a period of 2 days to cancel some of the show you won to lottery cos maybe cant travel from one place to another and after those 2 days,they redraw the left tix..
they can add it,from the moment they have the cancel option..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I have and still nothing. I also confirmed that my email address on file is correct with 10C.
Sounds like I'm not alone after-all.
I do wish 10C would let us know if a sample of emails was used and not all on file.
Great idea
2009 - Toronto
2010 - Buffalo
2011 - Toronto 1&2
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Cincinnati, St. Louis, Detroit
2016 - Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Ottawa, Toronto 1
2018 - Fenway 1&2
2022 - Hamilton, Toronto
2023 - Chicago 1&2
2024 - Las Vegas 1&2
Nah. I'm on the fence about the whole thing, but if they do it, do ALL shows at once. That will limit the number folks put down in the first place. If you can only do 2, pick your 2 favorite so you don't risk "overspending." It's not like there aren't other tickets. If you only get one, so be it. And if you need to fill in "gaps" in your travel plans, get them through the general sale.
I like that. Also, the distance problem for travelling to shows does not only apply to Europe. For example, the trip to the Gorge from where I am now costs almost as much as a flight from Germany to the States :?
It is good to see that they are working on the ticketing issue though and that we can test it :thumbup:
When I re-edited my purchases, I got a "duplication" notification when I entered my cc details for my second round of selection. I filled everything in again and then it worked. That was a little weird.
I agree, giving a day to cancel shows might be a good way to do it, but that might cause a headache, and other members may miss out due to everyone putting down for all the shows then cancelling them... I think blocks / regions / whatever would be easier. Also less strain on the servers, and it would be easier to fix any problems that arise (you know they will
An audible for this may be being able to transfer 1 pair of tickets to another member or something, but that's dangerous territory.
As for getting tix in the secondary market, though it's very easy to do, why am I a 10C member then? The main reason I'm one is for tickets!
How about you just don't put in for shows you're unsure of being able to go to? Why should you (effectively) get to decide if another member gets tickets or not?
If you can go, sign up. If you can't, too bad. I hope they don't work all these angles to force folks to think before they purchase (or "suffer" the consequences - that's called life).
Very good point.
Yeah but the if I get shut out of those 2 shows than i'm out of luck. If someone wants to put their name in for every show to guarantee they get fan club tickets to at least 1 show ... there is nothing wrong with that. The general sale tickets for most venues suck. If I don't get fan club seats I don't go. Not after I spent both 2003 MSG shows all the way up top behind the stage where it sounded like I was hearing the show from inside a washing machine. I'm not one of those guys who said "at least I'm in the building". I'm 10-c or nothing.
No on the transfer. That's a terrible idea. It's like life - shit happens.
There's also no need (necessarily) to go to a 2ndary market. There's the general sale. I know - the horror!!!
If you don't want to be a member, don't. (I know that's not what you said, but that's my pat response when folks even allude to that possibility).
You are right. I'm glad I don't have to develop this new system. It must be a pain in the ass to us lot happy
Well, and of course I would only select the shows I possibly could do. But if I don't know for sure if I get the tickets I want, I might stretch my doable area a bit more ...
100% in favor of the lottery but also in favor of this. I understand scheduling conundrums some may face but you don't need 10C tickets to go to a show. Enter for shows you know you can attend and then fill in the blanks with other tickets. The view from the balcony will not kill you.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Well, look forward to nothing. I don't think it's fair to do the 15 shows and pick 1 after you get them all. As is, places like NYC just got 10 times harder to get. If I get all 4 shows in the area, I think I'll live.
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
in a tour of 3-4 weeks and 15 shows,and be able to afford lets say 3,if you choose only the fiorst 3,and win only one then u need to get non fan club tix for the rest..
if u add more and win 1st show and last of tour,means u go to 1 show,then back to your country,and after 25 days back abroad for the last show..
im trying to think the guys want to follow the whole tour..and fan club tix here in europe counts cos of the early entrance..
as for me,im not worry,always there spares,ill find tix from whatever show i want,+ im searching for single for me,not a pair,but are members dont know where to look and they will need to go to public sales to get tix,or scalpers
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
nbo 10c tickets doesnt mean you will not be at the show./..you can always find spares or tix in the market
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Not trying to diminish the point. I hear you, but how about more folks get access to the alotted tickets rather than folks "hording" them, then throwing them back at their discretion?
Life is full of decisions. And poor me if I need a pair and they're not 10C :shock: Maybe, someone else gets to go instead of me.
Again, I will reiterate what I've said a million times - they should just price their tickets appropriately, and we wouldn't have to worry about this.
that ugly,crazy f5 frikkin thing,needed to be end..good they find a better solution
i believe they will continue to work in that direction,so they will find the better possible solution
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
and really,if someone want to see 11-12 times,there are spares out there,and other than fan club tix..
if u dont score to all shows that you want,doesnt mean you cant go to the show
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
No one is saying that though... where are you getting this from? If you select a max of 1 show... and pick all 15 shows in priority order... then you will only get selected for one show. You don't get tickets for all 15 and then get to pick and choose. The system randomly picks people. If your name was drawn for your 4th 8th and 12th choice show... and you have a max set to 1.. you'll get your forth choice and the other 3 will be given to someone else. We are talking about improving the system.. your replies of "that's life" are not constructive.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What I'm trying to say is that choosing multiple shows might not be as big a deal as we're making it out to be. Either way, I'll see you at a show (at least 1)
I really like this as well. (Sounds like it might be tough for a programmer though. This is also a backup to make sure someone who wants to go to at least one show doesn't get shut out (especially if they only put in for NY). Also ensures 10C sells another set of tickets.